aku_djinn Posted August 8, 2002 Share Posted August 8, 2002 Surrounded units should not be allowed to reinforce... I got held up taking Rumania for months and months b/c the Allies can simply bump those units up each round, even though they are completely surrounded and getting pounded from the air... where are these tens of thousands of men coming from? It totaly ruins the game b/c the whole point of surrounding units on the blitz is to cut them off and eliminate them. Being able to reinforce cut off units wrecks the blitz strategy. I hope they will change this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl G. E. von Mannerheim Posted August 8, 2002 Share Posted August 8, 2002 they can still be reinforced until their supply in dead. Then they are immovable/inoperable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aku_djinn Posted August 8, 2002 Author Share Posted August 8, 2002 Does a capital count as a supply source? Is there a manual anywhere to be found for SC? :mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl G. E. von Mannerheim Posted August 8, 2002 Share Posted August 8, 2002 yes, a pdf file on the disc, and yes, the capital is a supply source. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sol Invictus Posted August 9, 2002 Share Posted August 9, 2002 I have to agree with Aku, completely surrounded units should not be able to receive reinforcements. I hope this will change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyBucket Posted August 9, 2002 Share Posted August 9, 2002 What about Leningrad? I think that some reinforcement is ok, but yes, it is annoying when it is working against you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbellamy Posted August 9, 2002 Share Posted August 9, 2002 obviously you weren't using enough airpower cities are great reserves of manpower because that's where everyone flees to when they get surrounded look at warsaw in 39 - you think it fell to a ground attack? they bombed and shelled it for a couple of weeks instead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mike Posted August 9, 2002 Share Posted August 9, 2002 I don't have a problem with it. A surrounded city can only be a single unit - if it has supply then why can't it be reinforced? And if it hasn't then it can only be reinforced up to a lower maximum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aku_djinn Posted August 10, 2002 Author Share Posted August 10, 2002 "obviously you weren't using enough airpower" I was using 3 air fleets and numerous allied ground units. The city and a hex or two around it were being bumoped up 6+ power levels each round for many turns. The problem is it counted as a capital so they could have supply, but I think if it's surrounded for many turns like that even if it's a capital it should not be able to reiforce like that over time. Leningrad was about to capitulate (after tens of thousands had starved I might add) but the Russians were able to bring truck convoys over the lake on which the city bordered when it froze over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Wagner Posted August 10, 2002 Share Posted August 10, 2002 And remember, if you didn't have all six of the surrounding units under a HQ command, your attacks will be less effective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWinterbottom Posted August 10, 2002 Share Posted August 10, 2002 Yea... that's what I was thinking.. He must be attaking without the support of an HQ. I have to confess that I do not have the problems he describes at all. They all fall before me!! MOHAHAHA! Cough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmbunnelle Posted August 14, 2002 Share Posted August 14, 2002 I think it should be modified a bit, their willingness and ability to hold-out should drop more quickly after encirclement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacob lundgren Posted August 14, 2002 Share Posted August 14, 2002 i have to agree. in my invasion of russia there were a few pockets of 2-3 russian corps that ould get fully reinforced every turn. one of them just a normal city had 3 corps reinforced to 12 each turn and it took about 5-6 turns to beat it down and kill of the units. any unit cut off shouldnt be able to be put past 10 even in a city since pockets are not supposed to grow in strenght over time. but part of my prob was my units were worn down so it was harder to attack even with hq support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubert Cater Posted August 14, 2002 Share Posted August 14, 2002 Sounds like the pocket was still able to trace a line back to it's capital (at least on it's turn), if you completely cut it off, their max reinforcement value drops, (but could be boosted if they have an HQ in the pocket) and if you completely cut off a unit in a city, i.e. completly surround all open land hexes around the city, the max reinforcement value will be 5. Hope that helps, Hubert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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