mechanix Posted June 8, 2002 Share Posted June 8, 2002 This game could have been great if it has had a realistic map and made beautiful graphics. It looks like wargames on my Amstrad cpc 6128 15 years ago. I hope it will be cheaper than other games. It should be a freeware like war in russia of matrix games. It is far from combat mission. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Bond Posted June 8, 2002 Share Posted June 8, 2002 Geez, you woke up on the wrong side of the bed today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LC- Posted June 8, 2002 Share Posted June 8, 2002 I believe I heard the game will sell for $25. Not really a big hit to the wallet if you ask me and I am far from rich. And this game wasnt ment to be CM on any scale so comparing those graphics to these is like comparing how to play the shortstop position to the entire game of baseball. Point being...if you like the demo....great buy the game if you want to when it is released. If you dont like the demo...dont spend your $25. There are still many people who do like the game and will buy it regardless of its tiny flaws that can and should be overlooked. There is no perfect game, if there was I wouldnt be anxiously awaiting this one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windstarz Posted June 9, 2002 Share Posted June 9, 2002 Test to see if my ip is still banned. frustrating to write a reply and find out it was for naught. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windstarz Posted June 9, 2002 Share Posted June 9, 2002 For games of this nature I think SC has good enough graphics. The game engine is more important to me. If the game sucks I dont care how pretty it is. Why would anyone spend so much time and effort and put out a game for free? I guess I am selfish but I like to get paid for my work. And at 25$ I think this game will be a bargain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titan Posted June 9, 2002 Share Posted June 9, 2002 He evryone wants the Perfect game but it will never be so,Just like we want there to be the perfect world,It will be perfect until you show up:). But the game looks like to be fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Bond Posted June 9, 2002 Share Posted June 9, 2002 So far it is looking pretty good to me, at least it is a major update from the DOS era graphics of the last wave of grand strategic games. It reminds me a little of SSI's Imperialism, and I thought those graphics were perfect for the type of game that was. Also, I must admit it is hard to be too picky when a game like this has not been released in the last 6 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rleete Posted June 9, 2002 Share Posted June 9, 2002 Heck, 25 bucks is a bargain anyway you look at it. I paid a lot more for any number of games, most of which had a thoroughly idiotic AI. I want to be able to play against the computer without it being a walkover every time. SC povides this. Having pretty graphics is a plus only if it isn't at the sacrifice of gameplay. Too often this is lost on the major game developers, looking for a fast buck. Hubert has already demonstrated the kind of dedication to customer service that is exemplary. Gameplay in the demo is never the same, indicating that the full version will have replay value. Try saying that about all the games that have come before. Now, when is it coming out? I'm ready to buy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waynef Posted June 9, 2002 Share Posted June 9, 2002 Only problem I see with the graphics/map is: 1) I'd love for the map to have 2-3 more rows across the bottom for fighting in Africa 2) 3-4 more columns added in the Atlantic for sub warfare I know Hubert has answered/addressed these issues and future enhancement may help this area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narayan Sengupta Posted June 9, 2002 Share Posted June 9, 2002 Wayne, Those are good thoughts on the map... Narayan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyBucket Posted June 9, 2002 Share Posted June 9, 2002 The game would be improved tremendously by a major graphics overhaul. First, the medals used to show unit experiance are generic, they should be replaced by the correct campaign medals, depending on the theater where they are earned, and there should be a cut scene showing the decorations being awarded, with the national anthem of the nation in question playing in the background. Second, the sound file for infantry moving needs to be modified, so that the boots of different countries make authentic sounds. No hobnails for the US, for gosh sakes! Third, the combat explosions and sounds for combat resolution are not good enough. I say go for a cutscene showing the leaders of the various nations fighting in their underwear in a pit with clubs, sort of as a tribute to "All Quiet on the Western Front", since this would be a visual treat and make an artistic statement about the inhumanity of war. Fourth, if we can't get the correct graphics for the individual infantrymen (to include webgear that changes as new models were adapted), vehicles, aircraft and ships, then go with an abstraction with some pizazz, say images from vintage Warner Brothers Looney Toons propaganda cartoons. "Hare meets Herr", played out on the SC battlefield, with Daffy Duck pillaging France in '40! That's what we need! Lastly, is there a way to get "Yellow Submarine" to play when the Subs dive from attack? That would be awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waynef Posted June 9, 2002 Share Posted June 9, 2002 Hey BB, you need to at least put a in there so the New folks know your kidding. You are kidding, right? I do like that "Yellow Submarine idea"! BloodyBucket Member Member # 3876 posted June 09, 2002 01:02 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The game would be improved tremendously by a major graphics overhaul. First, the medals used to show unit experiance are generic, they should be replaced by the correct campaign medals, depending on the theater where they are earned, and there should be a cut scene showing the decorations being awarded, with the national anthem of the nation in question playing in the background. Second, the sound file for infantry moving needs to be modified, so that the boots of different countries make authentic sounds. No hobnails for the US, for gosh sakes! Third, the combat explosions and sounds for combat resolution are not good enough. I say go for a cutscene showing the leaders of the various nations fighting in their underwear in a pit with clubs, sort of as a tribute to "All Quiet on the Western Front", since this would be a visual treat and make an artistic statement about the inhumanity of war. Fourth, if we can't get the correct graphics for the individual infantrymen (to include webgear that changes as new models were adapted), vehicles, aircraft and ships, then go with an abstraction with some pizazz, say images from vintage Warner Brothers Looney Toons propaganda cartoons. "Hare meets Herr", played out on the SC battlefield, with Daffy Duck pillaging France in '40! That's what we need! Lastly, is there a way to get "Yellow Submarine" to play when the Subs dive from attack? That would be awesome! -------------------- 'He's a cheery old card', grunted Harry to Jack As they slogged up to Arras with rifle and pack. But he did for them both by his plan of attack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyBucket Posted June 10, 2002 Share Posted June 10, 2002 Yes, sort of tongue in cheek, but my game does play "Yellow Submarine" instead of the claxons, that is a pretty simple mod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbellamy Posted June 11, 2002 Share Posted June 11, 2002 a lot of this stuff is simple image files in the game directory if you want super flashy icons or whatever, please feel free to mod them and share them with the rest of us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubert Cater Posted June 13, 2002 Share Posted June 13, 2002 The game would be improved tremendously by a major graphics overhaul. First, the medals used to show unit experiance are generic, they should be replaced by the correct campaign medals, depending on the theater where they are earned, and there should be a cut scene showing the decorations being awarded, with the national anthem of the nation in question playing in the background. Second, the sound file for infantry moving needs to be modified, so that the boots of different countries make authentic sounds. No hobnails for the US, for gosh sakes! Third, the combat explosions and sounds for combat resolution are not good enough. I say go for a cutscene showing the leaders of the various nations fighting in their underwear in a pit with clubs, sort of as a tribute to "All Quiet on the Western Front", since this would be a visual treat and make an artistic statement about the inhumanity of war. Fourth, if we can't get the correct graphics for the individual infantrymen (to include webgear that changes as new models were adapted), vehicles, aircraft and ships, then go with an abstraction with some pizazz, say images from vintage Warner Brothers Looney Toons propaganda cartoons. "Hare meets Herr", played out on the SC battlefield, with Daffy Duck pillaging France in '40! That's what we need! Lastly, is there a way to get "Yellow Submarine" to play when the Subs dive from attack? That would be awesome!Too funny! I think it beats your previous one about lack of Japanese to run Italian subs or something like that Hubert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micheal Wittman Posted June 13, 2002 Share Posted June 13, 2002 I felt that when I looked at the screen shots, it would have been nice to have hi res graphics. If I recall the Ardennes Offensive game although older looked farely pleasing to the eye. Yes game play is the first aspect, but would it be to hard to spruce up the graphics afterward? We have been waiting for a good campiagn game for a long time now, so I hope for all the best with this one! CheerZ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyBucket Posted June 18, 2002 Share Posted June 18, 2002 Glad you got a laugh out of it Hubert, but I'm afraid that they have the right dosage for my meds almost nailed down, so I'm not posting as much nowadays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto Posted June 18, 2002 Share Posted June 18, 2002 Originally posted by BloodyBucket: .....Fourth, if we can't get the correct graphics for the individual infantrymen (to include webgear that changes as new models were adapted), vehicles, aircraft and ships, then go with an abstraction with some pizazz, say images from vintage Warner Brothers Looney Toons propaganda cartoons. "Hare meets Herr", played out on the SC battlefield, with Daffy Duck pillaging France in '40! That's what we need!I'll supply the first new unit icon, (sorry we got Donald instead of Daffy: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperTed Posted June 18, 2002 Share Posted June 18, 2002 Otto, Are you sure that's not Daisy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyBucket Posted June 19, 2002 Share Posted June 19, 2002 It only looks like Daisy. That's how Donald stayed out of the army. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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