Colonel_Klink Posted July 7, 2001 Share Posted July 7, 2001 What is it with these guys? I can have 3 full healthy squads of men face off against 1 enemy squad, and when the enemy starts firing at us, at the first sound of gunfire my men run scared. And The enemy can be getting fired at from rear machine guns while being attacked by all 3 of my squads and not once will they ever back down. The only times I ever see enemy infantry retreat are when I fire on them with my tanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Aitken Posted July 7, 2001 Share Posted July 7, 2001 Were they green troops? Was it nighttime? Was overall morale low? Were there Monty Python reruns on the TV? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonel_Klink Posted July 7, 2001 Author Share Posted July 7, 2001 No, it was daytime, they were regular troops, the overall morale was 98% and unfortunately there were no Monty Python reruns on TV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gyrene Posted July 7, 2001 Share Posted July 7, 2001 Were they Russians going against Finns? Russians panic very easily under the steely gaze of a Finn. Gyrene Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonel_Klink Posted July 7, 2001 Author Share Posted July 7, 2001 No, Americans against Germans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Aitken Posted July 7, 2001 Share Posted July 7, 2001 You're saying this always happens? Do you use an AI experience bonus, or are you playing against someone else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonel_Klink Posted July 7, 2001 Author Share Posted July 7, 2001 Yeah, it pretty much always happens, except for rare circumstances. Also, this is playing against AI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PzKpfw 1 Posted July 7, 2001 Share Posted July 7, 2001 Was the German squad an SMG squad ...... Regards, John Waters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
British Tommy Posted July 7, 2001 Share Posted July 7, 2001 Have you installed the latest patch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Aitken Posted July 8, 2001 Share Posted July 8, 2001 Again, have you given the AI an experience bonus? This makes the troops better than their rating, ie. Regular troops will actually be Crack. This goes some way towards compensating for the AI's lack of intuition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando Posted July 8, 2001 Share Posted July 8, 2001 1. Are all your men in command (red lines to their HQ)? 2. How many men did every one of your squads lose? 3. Are your units too close to each other? 4. Are you sure there aren't other unknown enemy units firing at your men? Sometimes your men can be hit by unknown enemy infantry fire from hidden units. It takes some time to find them if they are in woods. 5. Was the enemy unit veteran/crack/elite? 6. Was it in command? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darwin Posted July 8, 2001 Share Posted July 8, 2001 You wouldn't by any chance be related to a Rob McKenna would you Colonel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slapdragon Posted July 8, 2001 Share Posted July 8, 2001 Change the GAME BTS. Give the Americans a +500% bonus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sock Monkey Posted July 8, 2001 Share Posted July 8, 2001 Well, Klink, the first thing I'd do if I were you is get rid of that Schultz guy and get some competent NCO's to lead your men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonel_Klink Posted July 8, 2001 Author Share Posted July 8, 2001 Well.. now that I think about it, keeping my men in command would probably help, yeah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClayJ Posted July 8, 2001 Share Posted July 8, 2001 Posted by Aikens - Again, have you given the AI an experience bonus? This makes the troops better than their rating, ie. Regular troops will actually be Crack. This goes some way towards compensating for the AI's lack of intuition. Cripes! Is that what that does? I thought I was makeing the AI a more competent tactician. Looks like i've been trying to hog tie the howling commandos. Well they still die pretty dead though don't they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonel_Klink Posted July 8, 2001 Author Share Posted July 8, 2001 I never give the AI an experience bonus. I'm still pretty new, so I don't want to get slaughtered too quick. I just tried replaying some scenarios, but this time I kept my squads in contact with my HQ's (yeah yeah, before I had just left them in the back and dismissed them as useless. I'm still new, you know?), and my mens performance was considerably better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanonier Reichmann Posted July 8, 2001 Share Posted July 8, 2001 <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Colonel_Klink: What is it with these guys? I can have 3 full healthy squads of men face off against 1 enemy squad, and when the enemy starts firing at us, at the first sound of gunfire my men run scared. And The enemy can be getting fired at from rear machine guns while being attacked by all 3 of my squads and not once will they ever back down. The only times I ever see enemy infantry retreat are when I fire on them with my tanks.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Errmmmm... wouldn't you if you were commanded by Colonel Klink? Regards Jim R. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonel_Klink Posted July 8, 2001 Author Share Posted July 8, 2001 They should have total confidence in me! I even gave them some of those new experimental things called "guns". Apparently they shoot some sort of metal object at people and can wound or kill them. Supposedly better than those butter knives I had issued them before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreas Posted July 8, 2001 Share Posted July 8, 2001 Calls for a Combaiku My soldiers all died now I only wish I had read the manual Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gyrene Posted July 8, 2001 Share Posted July 8, 2001 Are you absolutely sure that no Finns were spotted by your troops? Finn attacks can be quite nasty, you know? Gyrene Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stacheldraht Posted July 8, 2001 Share Posted July 8, 2001 I know noTHING! Sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Posted July 8, 2001 Share Posted July 8, 2001 <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Gyrene: Are you absolutely sure that no Finns were spotted by your troops?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Of course, if the Amies just saw "Infantry?", then it is not known were they Germans or Finns. But if they were Finns and they were not totally spotted, it makes one wonder: does one need to totally spot a Finnish squad before routing? Because if not, then it can be useful to not recognize the enemies but consider them just any "Infantry?". On the other hand, if they do panic without knowing who they were, then the Allied player can tell that it is Finnish infantry. Both cases are gamey, IMHO, and don't reflect historical tactics. BTS, please fix it. (Or sumfink.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanonier Reichmann Posted July 8, 2001 Share Posted July 8, 2001 All this talk about the Finns. I would argue that the troops would be MUCH more likely to panic & rout away if they have identified Ghurka's as their opposition. I'm sure I would in the same circumstances... wouldn't like the cold steel up me! Regards Jim R. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gyrene Posted July 8, 2001 Share Posted July 8, 2001 <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR> Of course, if the Amies just saw "Infantry?", then it is not known were they Germans or Finns. But if they were Finns and they were not totally spotted, it makes one wonder: does one need to totally spot a Finnish squad before routing? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Perhaps BTS should implement a new spotting marker for use along with the Infantry? and Crew? markers: A Finns? marker. This would help simulate the sense of dread and foreboding that the Allies felt when faced with the possibility of encountering Finns. This feeling of innevitable impending Finn-induced doom has often been described as the same as if the Nazgul were flying over or riding by a group of Hobbits, and the noramlly stout Russian ponies would panic and gun barrels would melt and warp. BTS, fix! Gyrene Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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