Juardis Posted April 5, 2001 Share Posted April 5, 2001 Was at the Dogs of War message board and someone asked what terrain we prefer. I replied that I don't care, but that I want to try deep mud. Why? Because I haven't played in mud yet. Anyways, my question is aimed at you historical grognards. If you insist on historical OOBs, then do you also insist on playing in mud or deep mud? Everything I've read lately indicates that from Sep44 to Mar45 that is pretty much all the terrain was...mud. If it wasn't frozen, it was mud, and in some cases, deep mud. So, what's the story historical nuts? You really historical or not? ------------------ Jeff Abbott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorak Posted April 5, 2001 Share Posted April 5, 2001 I would have to say yes. I tend to play with what ever is given, weather or unit wise. Of course I am kind of strange in that I don't care if I lose or not. Trying to do the best with whatever I have in what ever conditions is all I try to do. So Yes I like playing in Mud, rain, snow, night, fog, ect. The same way I like being given odd ball units that I might not normal pick for myself. Sure it might be a lot harder to win, or maybe even impossible, but thats not the point. The point is trying and learning new things... and having a lot of fun doing it. Lorak ------------------ "Do not wait to strike till the iron is hot; but make it hot by striking."--William Butler Yeats Cesspool Combatmissionclub and for Kitty's sake =^..^= Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever Babra Posted April 5, 2001 Share Posted April 5, 2001 I usually let my opponents pick that, and they almost always pick dry and overcast, which is an unlikely combination at best. But now that you've mentioned it, I'll ask for mud more often. I'm not looking forward to dragging VVSS Shermans through it though ------------------ "Good for burn infantry. WERY cheap!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorBeef Posted April 5, 2001 Share Posted April 5, 2001 Originally posted by Juardis: Was at the Dogs of War message board and someone asked what terrain we prefer. I replied that I don't care, but that I want to try deep mud. Why? Because I haven't played in mud yet. Anyways, my question is aimed at you historical grognards. If you insist on historical OOBs, then do you also insist on playing in mud or deep mud? Everything I've read lately indicates that from Sep44 to Mar45 that is pretty much all the terrain was...mud. If it wasn't frozen, it was mud, and in some cases, deep mud. So, what's the story historical nuts? You really historical or not? Playing with mud is for amateurs. Real grogs sit in mud while playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tailz Posted April 5, 2001 Share Posted April 5, 2001 Dawn/dusk/overcast/rain/fog... I love them all! Actually, I still get a charge out of listening to the thunder during rain. I tend to favour random weather for PBEM's, unless we're trying for a specific action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyBucket Posted April 5, 2001 Share Posted April 5, 2001 "I'm equally sure that no mud in the world is so deep or sticky or wet as European mud. It doesn't even have an honest color like ordinary mud." Bill Mauldin ------------------ "Roll on" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Dorosh Posted April 5, 2001 Share Posted April 5, 2001 Babs admit it, you play in your litle pink PJs. (If I could afford PJs, I probably would too - and being a bachelor, all my laundry comes out pink). I'm waiting for Maximus to post about how he plays while "commando"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Martin Cracauer Posted April 5, 2001 Share Posted April 5, 2001 I prefer random weather and even random time when trust is there between me and my opponents. The engine ensures enough mud then For the record, the tournamenthouse opponents I play all agreed to random weather and time in my setup, while they play German. It can't be that bad with systematic German playing and/or cheat fear at TH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M. Bates Posted April 5, 2001 Share Posted April 5, 2001 Originally posted by Michael Dorosh: I'm waiting for Maximus to post about how he plays while "commando"... He probably thinks it is a German concentration camp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoePrivate Posted April 5, 2001 Share Posted April 5, 2001 Originally posted by Martin Cracauer: I prefer random weather and even random time when trust is there between me and my opponents. The engine ensures enough mud then For the record, the tournamenthouse opponents I play all agreed to random weather and time in my setup, while they play German. It can't be that bad with systematic German playing and/or cheat fear at TH. I agree with the Random weather, you will come up with Mud sooner or later. I know I was a litle unprepared for it the first time lol, watching in pain as my Shermans mucked about then immobilized. Mud can be a fun break IMO but a steady diet wouldn't be so enjoyable. When I'm playing the Germans I am not concerned about Random weather at all really since most of their AFVs have better ground pressure than the Allies on average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Aitken Posted April 5, 2001 Share Posted April 5, 2001 > they almost always pick dry and overcast, which is an unlikely combination at best. Presumably you haven't spent much time in Europe. The "overcast" sky in CM would be more convincing if it were just plain white, not threatening grey. ------------------ "Compared to the European armies, Americans had a permissive view toward the authority of doctrine and considered blind obedience to doctrine a vice, not a virtue." – Michael Doubler's "Closing With The Enemy" in brief Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rex_Bellator Posted April 5, 2001 Share Posted April 5, 2001 I don't know about how many players have played a CMBO mission in mud, but I bet more have paid to watch two half-naked women playing in mud, possibly sheep in one famous instance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juardis Posted April 5, 2001 Author Share Posted April 5, 2001 Originally posted by BloodyBucket: "I'm equally sure that no mud in the world is so deep or sticky or wet as European mud. It doesn't even have an honest color like ordinary mud." Bill Mauldin Hehehe, that's a good quote. You know someone that was in the 28th or do you just like the name bloodybucket? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jshandorf Posted April 5, 2001 Share Posted April 5, 2001 The only problem I have is with the realism with playing in mud or deep mud. The allies knew that there tanks sucked ass in mud so without a road of some sort any armored attacked over deep muddy fields would just be suicide. Ever notice that in ALOT of the pictures you see of Shermans in combat that they are sitting on roads. Jeff ------------------ Good health is merely the slowest possible rate at which one can die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Andrew Hedges Posted April 6, 2001 Share Posted April 6, 2001 I like to play random weather (not time, as there weren't that many night battles), and so I've played in mud a couple of times. Random weather makes purchasing more realistic IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyBucket Posted April 6, 2001 Share Posted April 6, 2001 Juardis- My father was a BAR man in the 28th, 110th Rgt., 2nd Bn., "Easy" company. He fought in the Hurtgenwald and was a guest of the German government after December 19, 1944. ------------------ "Roll on" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micheal Wittman Posted April 6, 2001 Share Posted April 6, 2001 Well here I am right now, trying to defend a city as Axis. So I have a fairly long front in which to defend. About a 3'rd of my left flank is marsh, so I consintrate my defense's to my right, (assuming he's not going to take his units for his "Assault" through the marsh. : (- well what do i see Oodle's of infentry running through the marshland under the cover of smoke. Oh @#$% I say to myself. The moral of the story, I don't know but it "deeked" me out. I mean who would want to get the boots dirty anyways ------------------ "Is this thing loaded!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfcub Posted April 6, 2001 Share Posted April 6, 2001 the rule is always expect the unexpected oh and if ur attack is going to well its and ambush Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfcub Posted April 6, 2001 Share Posted April 6, 2001 doh! me for got me sig, thats better ------------------ Now, if Ike stops holding Monty's hand and gives me the supplies ill go through the siegfried line like **** through a goose, patton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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