Guest Solid Snake Posted March 28, 2001 Share Posted March 28, 2001 Prtd AT Rifle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Solid Snake Posted March 28, 2001 Share Posted March 28, 2001 45mm AT model 1942 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Solid Snake Posted March 28, 2001 Share Posted March 28, 2001 Those would be cool in CM2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Heinz 25th PzReg Posted March 28, 2001 Share Posted March 28, 2001 All of them will surely be in CM. Heinz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Solid Snake Posted March 28, 2001 Share Posted March 28, 2001 i wub the ppsh SMG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanir Ausf B Posted March 28, 2001 Share Posted March 28, 2001 Soviets had 50mm mortars too? Damn. I thought maybe I'd finally be rid of those pieces of junk when CM2 came out. *Sigh* ------------------ What a bunch of horsecrap. -Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar Posted March 28, 2001 Share Posted March 28, 2001 You better get used to massive artillery barrages. When it came to artillery, the Russians were hard to beat. Watch those German lines evaporate!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy w/gun Posted March 28, 2001 Share Posted March 28, 2001 Ah my best friend the Tokarev! I've seen antique toy guns at Flea Markets that look way more convincing than those ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zakalwe Posted March 28, 2001 Share Posted March 28, 2001 Originally posted by Vanir Ausf B: Soviets had 50mm mortars too? Damn. I thought maybe I'd finally be rid of those pieces of junk when CM2 came out. *Sigh* Oh yes, and not only the Soviets. The Soviet 50mm mortar was actually much better than the other 50mm mortar we'll be seeing in CM2: the infamous German 5cm Leichter Granatwerfer M 36. I'm really looking forward to lugging one of these babies around the map - not enough range, and even less firepower. ------------------ z veteran of the psychic wars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Dorosh Posted March 28, 2001 Share Posted March 28, 2001 Originally posted by Commissar: You better get used to massive artillery barrages. When it came to artillery, the Russians were hard to beat. Watch those German lines evaporate!! How much of their arty was on call, which is what is represented in CM? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mikey D Posted March 29, 2001 Share Posted March 29, 2001 Let's hope the CM designers enjoy doing artillery and anti-tank guns! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattias Posted March 29, 2001 Share Posted March 29, 2001 Very good question Michael. The answer I think is spelled something like SU or ISU... The lacking indirect capability was replaced by direct fire. Hopefully BTS will sit down for a bit with this one. The artillery, as it is represented in CM now, is way, way too flexible. M. [This message has been edited by Mattias (edited 03-28-2001).] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellros Posted March 29, 2001 Share Posted March 29, 2001 I'm really hoping we see the wheeled carriage for the Dshk modeled in CM2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeT Posted March 29, 2001 Share Posted March 29, 2001 For info on Russian weapons check out History channel at 8PM central tonight. MikeT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rommel22 Posted March 29, 2001 Share Posted March 29, 2001 The Russians suffered horrific casualties (as is known) in 41. But they ( Russians) lost HUGE ammounts of artillery pieces, HUGE number. So during 41 the russians almost had no artillery to counter the germans arty. They did have some but small numbers. Even as late as 43 they haven't fully re-covered. They still were well below the number of artillery pieces compared to 41 (before the invasion). Ofcourse some fronts like Stalingrad, Mosocow and Lennigrad had priority in recieving arty pieces. But they were in few numbers still. I don't know the exact numbers lost or gained back. Does anyone have some numbers concerning this! ------------------ Rommel22s Kampfgruppe site: http://rommel22diarys.homestead.com/MyPage1.html "I saw 5 Germans walking down the side of the road, so I followed them for a few yard to get closer. Then I shot them! Later that day I found out the war has been over for a few weeks." - someone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedy Posted March 29, 2001 Share Posted March 29, 2001 Originally posted by Ellros: I'm really hoping we see the wheeled carriage for the Dshk modeled in CM2. Running mg teams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tss Posted March 29, 2001 Share Posted March 29, 2001 Commissar wrote: You better get used to massive artillery barrages. When it came to artillery, the Russians were hard to beat. Watch those German lines evaporate!! The RKKA certainly could mass more guns per km of front than any other army and do horrible damage when the barrages hit. However, their capability to concentrate fire on quickly-appearing targets was not as good. At Ihantala on early July 1944 Soviets had at least two times more indirect firing guns (it may have been as high as 5 times more, but I don't remember for certain) than Finns had. However, Finns could achieve 20 times higher shell concentrations on their targets. (Where shell concentration is defined as the number of rounds landing in a minute in a 100 x 100 m target area). - Tommi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grisha Posted March 29, 2001 Share Posted March 29, 2001 Originally posted by Rommel22: The Russians suffered horrific casualties (as is known) in 41. But they ( Russians) lost HUGE ammounts of artillery pieces, HUGE number. So during 41 the russians almost had no artillery to counter the germans arty. They did have some but small numbers. Even as late as 43 they haven't fully re-covered. They still were well below the number of artillery pieces compared to 41 (before the invasion). Ofcourse some fronts like Stalingrad, Mosocow and Lennigrad had priority in recieving arty pieces. But they were in few numbers still. I don't know the exact numbers lost or gained back. Does anyone have some numbers concerning this! Neither 1941 or 1942 were good years for the Soviets. However, from 1943, on, things got vastly better. As far as artillery production goes, the Soviets produced more pieces than the USA in WWII. I have the figures at home, if you want confirmation. ------------------ Best regards, Greg Leon Guerrero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rommel22 Posted March 29, 2001 Share Posted March 29, 2001 Grisha, Can you post the figures or sent them via e-mail to me. (rommel21@earthlink.net) I read this from Russian books and German ones too. The russians had almost no artilery from 41 to 42. They did start replanish them but slowly. Even by 43 they didn't have the original number of arty pieces compared to 41. They sure made in AFVs though. ------------------ Rommel22s Kampfgruppe site: http://rommel22diarys.homestead.com/MyPage1.html "I saw 5 Germans walking down the side of the road, so I followed them for a few yard to get closer. Then I shot them! Later that day I found out the war has been over for a few weeks." - someone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Heinz 25th PzReg Posted March 29, 2001 Share Posted March 29, 2001 Imagine the ISU-152 assault gun in CM2. Low siluette, tough armour and a huge gun! 152mm!!! Pretty effective against soft targets and bunkers for sure. Heinz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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