gunnersman Posted February 16, 2001 Share Posted February 16, 2001 Just curious if anyone has seen any of these 12" dolls that are made to look like German WW2 soldiers. They have excellent detail on the weapons and clothing. They are quite impressive. I bought one which is modeled after a soldier on the Russian front in 45'. He has a panzerfaust and Kar98 rifle. He wears a Wermacht uniform with a "zeltbahn" or poncho over his uniform and an ammo belt along with ankle boots with gaiters and standard helmet too. It is quite impressive the detail with which these dolls are made. There are others, such as an mg34 machine gun team, with just two team members, though, a horseman with stug44 and accessories are sold seperately also. From what I understand there are only very few dolls made every month and then a new set is made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Leader Posted February 16, 2001 Share Posted February 16, 2001 They are ACTION FIGURES!!!!! Not dolls. Geez, at least you didn't call them Barbies. Actually, at Toys-R-Us, they have some amazing WWII stuff. I think the company is called "Universal Soldier" or something and they make babie-scale tanks and even a PSW-251! ------------------ And King Xerxes looked to King Leonidas and spoke. "Our Archers will rain arrows down upon you to blot out the sun." And King Leonidas replied: "Then we will fight in the shade." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Clark Posted February 16, 2001 Share Posted February 16, 2001 Originally posted by Panzer Leader: They are ACTION FIGURES!!!!! Not dolls. Geez, at least you didn't call them Barbies. I was gonna make this statement... but now I don't have too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Dorosh Posted February 16, 2001 Share Posted February 16, 2001 I just bought the Sergeant Steiner version - not exactly the way he appeared in the movie but the face is damn nice. Ron Volstad, the artist who does the box art for Dragon (and has done drawings for Squadron Signal, Men at Arms, etc.) lives in Alberta; we help each other out with projects when we can. He tells me that the action figures are done from his drawings - Dragon got a real deal on the Steiner one, since he had done the artwork about 9 years previously for a 1/35 scale model set! Dragon has the best products, but 21st Century Toys has some alright products - though the faces aren't nearly as good as Dragon's. Dragon's weapons are also much superior. There are also others like Cotswold out there, too. It is interesting to see the resurgent interest in WW II these days - 21st Century Toys are also releasing 1/16 (?) action figures and vehicle in authentic WW II kit. The only thing we had like that when I was a kid was Corgi toys and Britains miniatures, which were expensive - in addition to the mass produced, historically inaccurate toy soldiers out there. Combat Mission is part of this trend; World War Two never really left the public consciousness entirely (how could it) but in the wake of Saving Private Ryan (especially) you can see the increased public awareness. Hopefully one or two veterans will be able to pass on knowing they haven't been totally forgotten; though one hopes that the impression doesn't become one of toy and game companies "cashing in" on the misery they went through for our freedom. I think CMBO falls well outside that category by giving as honest a portrayal as it can of the difficulties that troops faced; the camera shake when the artillery starts falling still freaks me out. For all the blood and supposed "realism" that Close Combat was touted as having, it pales in comparison to CM. Kind of too bad the 12 inch action figures are so well detailed - most kids won't be able to afford them and parents will be loathe to buy them for the very young - they weren't designed to be played with anyway, as they are very brittle, unlike Hasbro's GI Joe. Even Hasbro has jumped on the collectibles bandwagon, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunnersman Posted February 16, 2001 Author Share Posted February 16, 2001 Well excuuuuuuuuuse me! I seems to me an "action figure" is a contradiction in terms. But however, it does say "action figure" on the box. So I will concede, and from now on when ever you see "doll" in any future post please just assume "action figure" is suppose to be there. Thank you and have a nice day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunnersman Posted February 16, 2001 Author Share Posted February 16, 2001 And, oh yeah, it is made by Dragon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pvt.Tom Posted February 16, 2001 Share Posted February 16, 2001 Anyone have a website for Dragon? I have the 21st Sherman and Panther and they are great but I would like to check out the Dragon "dolls", I mean action figures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Dorosh Posted February 16, 2001 Share Posted February 16, 2001 Originally posted by Pvt.Tom: Anyone have a website for Dragon? I have the 21st Sherman and Panther and they are great but I would like to check out the Dragon "dolls", I mean action figures. Email me if no one answers you - I have the site bookmarked at home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest highlife Posted February 17, 2001 Share Posted February 17, 2001 Here are two, one is an importer, Marco Polo, the other a retail store. I have never found a Dragon company site so I would be interested if there is one. http://www.marcopoloimport.com/ http://www.herocentral.com/Online.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJMello Posted February 17, 2001 Share Posted February 17, 2001 I picked up the DAK soldier. Rommel is also out now too. No way can kids afford all of these. ------------------ War Is Heck !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pvt.Tom Posted February 17, 2001 Share Posted February 17, 2001 Here is the Dragon site http://www.dragon-models.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wesreidau Posted February 17, 2001 Share Posted February 17, 2001 I have quite a Dragon collection building, kinda replacing my Action Men that my well-meaning mother sold when I was a teenageer. ("He won`t need these anymore"...sigh) The detail is superb! Although the figures are pricey, especially so here in the UK..at least £30 a figure. Their website is at www.dragon-models.com Edited to add: anyone wanting these in the UK try: www.koolcollectables.com, their online ordering is fast and reliable and the catalogue is kept bang up to date. [This message has been edited by Wesreidau (edited 02-16-2001).] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russellmz Posted February 17, 2001 Share Posted February 17, 2001 Originally posted by Panzer Leader: They are ACTION FIGURES!!!!! Not dolls. i remember a tv show episode where a brother was "torturing" his brother(he tied him up after some offence i forgot) by taking his gi joe action figure and putting a pink dress on it. "oh no joe, what would the men in your unit say?" ------------------ russellmz, Self-Proclaimed Keeper for Life of the Sacred Unofficial FAQ. "They had their chance- they have not lead!" - GW Bush "They had mechanical pencils- they have not...lead?" - Jon Stewart on The Daily Show Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunnersman Posted February 17, 2001 Author Share Posted February 17, 2001 Thanks ya'll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Dorosh Posted February 17, 2001 Share Posted February 17, 2001 Originally posted by Wesreidau: I have quite a Dragon collection building, kinda replacing my Action Men that my well-meaning mother sold when I was a teenageer. ("He won`t need these anymore"...sigh) . [This message has been edited by Wesreidau (edited 02-16-2001).] Friends of the family gave me a collection of 12 inch Hasbro GI Joes in the late 1970s - including the helicopter, a base, I think a submarine, tons of clothes My mom gave it all away, including some to THE 6 YEAR OLD GIRL NEXT DOOR. I don't have the heart to show mom the latest price guide on that stuff... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Compassion Posted February 17, 2001 Share Posted February 17, 2001 Originally posted by Michael Dorosh: Kind of too bad the 12 inch action figures are so well detailed - most kids won't be able to afford them and parents will be loathe to buy them for the very young - Ultimate Soldier, for one, and maybe Dragon I can't remember, release the dollies... erm... Action Figures also in blister packs with a far lesser amount of kit for relatively inexpensive prices. Uniforms and weapons sets are available at scale in a variety of styles and quality (read prices). Kids can get them to play with and probably wouldn't care about all the bits anyway (much of the webbing and pouches, etc that are not in the blisterpacks are a pain in the ass anyway and difficult enough to deal with if you are going to keep them in a single pose as it is) Edited for UBB errors and a spelling error. [This message has been edited by Compassion (edited 02-17-2001).] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waxx_IK Posted February 17, 2001 Share Posted February 17, 2001 The people that make the dolls are called 21st Century Toys, and they call them the Ultimate Soldier. I have 8 WWII dolls. 2 Fallschirmjager, 2 Wermacht, 1 3rd infantry guy, 1 Allied motorcycle rider, 1 British airborne guy. I have a motorcycle and a Kettenkrad. The level of detail on all of them is truly astounding. I like to make little stories with them, hehe...... ------------------ Waxx<<<**IK**>>> shall live on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armornut Posted February 17, 2001 Share Posted February 17, 2001 I feel a lock coming, since this could be better discussed in the general forum. Armornut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJMello Posted February 18, 2001 Share Posted February 18, 2001 Before the lock here is a URL for a company that carries many of the brands: http://smallblueplanet.com/ ------------------ War Is Heck !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SS Peiper Posted February 18, 2001 Share Posted February 18, 2001 Check this out if you want to see some of the best Action Figures http://www.members.home.net/tavares/index.html Francis Tavares is the best there is at customization. He Made me one of Peiper from his Diorama of the Ardennes. SS Peiper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clubfoot Posted February 18, 2001 Share Posted February 18, 2001 The Dragon figures are by far the best out there. They are also a helluva lot more expensive than the "Ultimate Soldier" dross. They also do personalities. I believe Dragon currently has a Wittmann figure available. You get what you pay for, however. I got the 'Gerhard' figure a while back (he's a Wehrmacht Panzerjager NCO)and the attention to detail is downright frightening. Even the stitches in their clothing are correct and period specific. If they're too rich for your blood, however, try Ultimate Soldiers 1:18 scale figures (the same size as the modern, little GI Joe's). They also have a nice range of vehicles and are pretty accurate. Just got the Panther with an escort squad from my wife for our Anniversary (she knows me too well). Clubfoot. [This message has been edited by Clubfoot (edited 02-18-2001).] [This message has been edited by Clubfoot (edited 02-18-2001).] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Dorosh Posted February 18, 2001 Share Posted February 18, 2001 Originally posted by Clubfoot: I believe Dragon currently has a Wittmann figure available. If they're too rich for your blood, however, try Ultimate Soldiers 1:18 scale figures (the same size as the modern, little GI Joe's). They also have a nice range of vehicles and are pretty accurate. The Dragon Wittman figure comes with a figure of Bobby Woll, his gunner and fellow KC winner. The 1/18 figures and vehicles are novel, but not especially well detailed. The jeep had enough wrong with it that I didn't want to buy it. My friend bought the Bf 109 but was a little disappointed that the swastika wa excised from the tail. Bad enough it was missing, but they put a big black square where it was supposed to be, so you KNOW it's missing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wesreidau Posted February 19, 2001 Share Posted February 19, 2001 Michael, my 3 year old boy has developed an interest in "army men" after seeing the Extreme Detail series sitting on my shelf above the PC (Sherman, a half dozen figures and the jeep). They may not be perfect but anything that encourages an interest is good for me. I`m just waiting for him to turn into a jock as he grows up ;-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wittmann Posted February 20, 2001 Share Posted February 20, 2001 Sadly the Wittmann figure has a 'Blue Oyster Bar' leather hat, instead of the correct uniform item usually seen on his portraits.....sorry for being picky, Wesreidau Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cos Posted February 20, 2001 Share Posted February 20, 2001 Originally posted by SS Peiper: Check this out if you want to see some of the best Action Figures http://www.members.home.net/tavares/index.html Francis Tavares is the best there is at customization. He Made me one of Peiper from his Diorama of the Ardennes. SS Peiper I loved it. The vehicle section is great. I wish build 1/6 scale vehicles like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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