Guest Captain Foobar Posted January 16, 2000 Share Posted January 16, 2000 <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>ps: i'm only a semi-old-fart, but... whutsa mamaluke?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Well, the only mamalukes I have ever heard of were a tribe / group of slave-soldiers in Egypt. They revolted against Roman rule, and were fierce horsemen. They were the only force that was able to defeat the Mongol Horde as they swept across Asia & Europe. I wouldn't consider it an insult to be called a mamaluke, because those guys were badasses... ------------------ "when in doubt, run in circles" [This message has been edited by Captain Foobar (edited 01-16-2000).] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted January 16, 2000 Share Posted January 16, 2000 Thanks Fionn. ------------------ Visit my Combat Mission for Mac page! With some exclusive images courtesy of the Combat Mission HQ! cm4mac.tripod.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPeng Posted January 16, 2000 Share Posted January 16, 2000 thanks foo. i hate being not "in the know." i thought it might be some youth thing and didn't want to feel quite so crusty at the tender age of 38. now that i know it is great praise to be a mamaluke, i shall incorporate the term in my daily lexicon and use it whenever the spirit moves. i shall use it inappropirately and with great gusto, and shall make a pact with me to use it once daily for the next several weeks until i and all those around me tire of it. thanks, you mamaluke. cheers Peng Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bastables Posted January 16, 2000 Share Posted January 16, 2000 Foobar ahem, the Mameluke's were the Battle slaves of the Egyptian Sultan not the Romans. Due to Sultan Turanshas attempt to displace Baibars as the IC of Egypt's army (by this time a Emir) he (Turanshs) was killed by fire, steel and water. Baibars and his fellow Mameluke's gained control of Eygpt. Highlighting the diffculties in unseating succesful Commanders. This occured just after the dismemberment of a Crusading army at Damietta. Mamaluke as a form of insult, is a implication that one is a Muslim? Pherhaps due to the religious zeal displayed by the Mamaluke forces eg the disdain of firearms as a Un-Muslim form of battle. Highlighted by the infamous massacare of the Sultans African/slave Musketmen in their barracks. Unfortunaly the French and the Ottomans embraced firearms. [This message has been edited by Bastables (edited 01-16-2000).] [This message has been edited by Bastables (edited 01-16-2000).] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berlichtingen Posted January 16, 2000 Share Posted January 16, 2000 <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Foobar ahem, the Mameluke's were the Battle slaves of the Egyptian Sultan not the Romans. Due to Sultan Turanshas attempt to displace Baibars as the IC of Egypt's army (by this time a Emir) he (Turanshs) was killed by fire, steel and water. Baibars and his fellow Mameluke's gained control of Eygpt.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> As I recall, the Mamelukes were still around in the 19th century. Napoleon maintained a squadron of Mamalukes in his Imperial Guard. [This message has been edited by Berlichtingen (edited 01-16-2000).] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berlichtingen Posted January 16, 2000 Share Posted January 16, 2000 Capt_Manieri, <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Herr Bauhaus said: On edge? nope, the game will come when it comes. There's a little thing called life, it's more of a priority than any game. Oops, did I say that? Maybe there is just nothing really new for anybody to say. Could that be it?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> I ask this question out of curiosity. What part of Bauhaus' post did you take offence to? What he says is true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berlichtingen Posted January 16, 2000 Share Posted January 16, 2000 Colin, I'm a webmaster by trade, so I know what goes into maintaining a site. There is nothing really wrong with yours. I admire your willingness to create and maintain it. Rock on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spook Posted January 16, 2000 Share Posted January 16, 2000 Well, now that the Captain has been sufficiently advised on conduct, I won't be adding to that issue. I will add an opinion, however, to the initial opinion given by Capt_M regarding the game manual. He had suggested that a "cut-rate" manual should be issued in order to expedite completion of the game. To which I must state.....For God's sake, NO!!! (I don't think this is what BTS is planning anyway, though.) How much that needs to be in a game manual is always a subjective opinion. But game reviewers are not generous if they perceive a "skimpy" manual that doesn't provide enough info to play the game effectively; even if more information is later provided by download at this site. By its tactical nature, CM is a game of many nuances which will challenge many new gamers. We just can't assume that every computer wargamer out there has heard of CM yet and played the demo, so BTS needs to provide a solid manual (hopefully with a tutorial or two) to help ensure a strong following. Not that you present forum regulars aren't a strong following in itself. But I prefer to err on the side of caution. Anyone else here remember TalonSoft's fiasco in releasing the original East Front too early in Oct '97? A nearly-useless manual, buggy game, and the reviewers had a field day. As another example, TOAW2 is a good game, but it didn't bother with a tutorial like TOAW1 did, and I think by the declining interest that many gamers are intimidated by the things that aren't explained well there. Ed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fionn Posted January 16, 2000 Share Posted January 16, 2000 Ed, I think it's safe to say that if BTS is holding CM when people are clamouring for release because they want to get things as right as possible that they aren't going to push it out the door with a crappy manual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spook Posted January 16, 2000 Share Posted January 16, 2000 That's been my assumption, too, Fionn, and a pretty safe one it seems. But when an opinion is stated for "cutting corners" on the manual, I have to state mine as a counter. I have had a bellyful of manuals in earlier games that chose to to do just that. Ed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon Posted January 16, 2000 Share Posted January 16, 2000 Knowing the guys at BTS, I am 99.9% sure that the manual will come with the CD with all four corners attached Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterk Posted January 16, 2000 Share Posted January 16, 2000 It's kind of encouraging to see the board quieting down a little bit - I think of it a little as the radio-silence enforced at the start of any huge top-secret well-planned attack. It means the game's coming soon (if you listen closely, you may be able to hear the rumble of tanks in the distance). Besides, I bet the boad is going to explode to > 50,000 messages in the week after people start getting the game, so there should be no lack of stuff to read here in the near future. I would definitely appreciate having a great manual though and wouldn't want any skimping in this area (I can't remember the last time I got a really good manual with a wargame - CC2 maybe or TOAW or Achtung Spitfire stand out). Yes, we've been playing the demo to death, but I'm pretty sure there's going to be a lot of stuff that we haven't seen yet that will need explanation. p. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Captain Foobar Posted January 16, 2000 Share Posted January 16, 2000 <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR> foobar ahem...blah blah blah <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Hey, I never professed to be terribly knowledgable of them, I think my explanation of the mamalukes was more than adequate for Mr Peng. If you say too much it confuses him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fionn Posted January 16, 2000 Share Posted January 16, 2000 Hell, I collect manuals so I think they're important too. I still have 15 year old manuals from my original Commodore 64 and have recently been using my Red Storm Rising manual to play an abandonware PC version of it ... I've seen a draft of the manual and I don't think you need worry. It seemed to me that it would be comprehensive when finished. I won't say more than that though. ------------------ ___________ Fionn Kelly Manager of Historical Research, The Gamers Net - Gaming for Gamers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bastables Posted January 17, 2000 Share Posted January 17, 2000 Yeh Foobar you got the most important part of the Mameluke's charecter; they were badass. For instance the letter by Baibars hand, to the Prince of Antioch; 'You must know by Allah's grace we have regained the castles formerly lost to Islam. Known that we have removed all your people from the country; we took them, as it were, and dispenced them hither and thither. The only rebel now is the river that flows through Antioch ( This river was called the al-Asi, "the rebel" because it flows from south to north)it would change its name if it could; its waters are tears, once pure and limpid, now stained with the blood we have shed. This letter is sent to congratulate you that Allah has seen fit to preserve you and prolong your days. All this you owe to the fact that you were not in Antioch when we captured it. If you had taken part in the battle, then you would either be dead, or a prisoner, or riddled with wounds. you must take great joy in being alive, for there is nothing so joyful as escaping from a great calamity. Pherhaps Allah gave you this respite so that you could make amends for your former disobedience towards him. And since no one from your city survived to tell you the news, it has fallen upon us to give you these tidings; and since also no one from your city is in any position to congratulate you on your own survival, this too has been left to us. Nor can you accuse us of saying anything false, nor do you need to go elsewhere to lern the truth.' An angry chap indeed. Oh bugger forgot to include my apology for being a prig and come in all high and mighty over Foobar. Sorry Mate [This message has been edited by Bastables (edited 01-16-2000).] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Captain Foobar Posted January 17, 2000 Share Posted January 17, 2000 Wow, you know we really have a wealth of irrelevant knowledge on this forum! And I mean that in the highest regards! We have experts on navereidieinsturzende neubaten, early punk rock-ophiles, foreign affairs specialists (search : chechnya conflict), and scientists/physicists (search enetration). I think that if there is a worldwide nuclear conflict, that WE, the CM community should be used to rebuild the new society. We can live in underground mines until the surface is safe again. So is the "mamaluke" insult pretty obscure? or do I need to get out more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bauhaus Posted January 17, 2000 Share Posted January 17, 2000 hell, I was the one called a mamaluke and I had to do a search online to see what one is. Does that make me old and out of touch too (37)? But this board rocks. So I'm a bad ass, hmmmmm, I'll take that. As for the game and manual. Take your time and get the game right. I truly believe a little patience will make this game worth every ounce the wait. Last thing I want to do is down load an endless list of patches because the game was rushed. Take your time BTS and do it right the first time. I'm more than willing to wait, but just not too long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPeng Posted January 17, 2000 Share Posted January 17, 2000 <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Captain Foobar: I think my explanation of the mamalukes was more than adequate for Mr Peng. If you say too much it confuses him. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Huh? whut? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Beman Posted January 17, 2000 Share Posted January 17, 2000 PeterK, were you around during the release of the beta demo (mid-November?) The board went from about the post-rate you see right now to 100 posts PER DAY. Currently I see a LOT more individual posters than I did back then. I sure hope this UltimateBulletinBoard software is built hella-tough. DjB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPeng Posted January 17, 2000 Share Posted January 17, 2000 Beman! Quit saying "hella!" that sucks ass, dude. huh? sorry, wrong board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Tom Posted January 17, 2000 Share Posted January 17, 2000 Hey, Mr.Peng, whats with the cheezy Goatee? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Tom Posted January 17, 2000 Share Posted January 17, 2000 Hey, Mr.Peng, whats with the cheezy Goatee? (just so eerie that it had to be said twice) [This message has been edited by Major Tom (edited 01-17-2000).] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiram Sedai Posted November 21, 2000 Share Posted November 21, 2000 <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by MrPeng: Uh - oh. If we are going to go on about manners I might as well just hang it up. Foobar has threatened my life. SS_PansyAss is gunning for me and some other dude thinks i'm his own little happy-boy, love-toy, shootemup-guy. This forum is totally cool. Even much of the fighting I've seen is farily civilized. I remember a while back I tried to post a thing about discriminating between flaming and taunting (i was too filled with beer to operate the computer properly at the time). Had I been anywhere near sober it would have come out sort of like "flaming is mean, taunting is fun, but you must agree which is which." It seems like some people get a bit touchy about things and it seems like some others might be a bit insensitive about the touchy ones and it seems like some just get all wiggy at the drop of a hat, or the twitch of a mouse, or at the suggestion that perhaps they are being a bit out of kilter with how some others might be touching the edges of reality in their own little slices of CM heaven. So. that being not said adn completely true or false (ala the physicists and philosphers bit in the oldfart thread) I suggest those that smoke smoke em, those that drink, drink em, them what taunt, yappa yappa, them what lurk, lurk a bit more and them with thin skins, glass houses, short fuses, bad tempers, bad genes, smelly pits, green teeth, fat heads, and ornery worldviews...relax. the game will get here. we will all have fun. It will be swell. Love and kisses. Peng ps: i'm only a semi-old-fart, but... whutsa mamaluke? [This message has been edited by MrPeng (edited 01-16-2000).]<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> ********************************************* I pulled this one out and dusted it off because: 1. It shows a thread in which Peng used Smiley faces 2. I agree with what he said about taunting. Enjoy!! ------------------ Did someone compare this to the Peng thread? I've apologized for less. -Anonymous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Brian Posted November 21, 2000 Share Posted November 21, 2000 <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Capt_Manieri: I, being a person who checks the board rather frequently, has noticed a decline in new and interesting posts at the board. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Not being around since December, to me, everything does seem "new and exciting" and a fresh read. What hurts even more, is people stating "do a search." Kind of stifles conversation. My 0.02 zloty ------------------ Doc God Bless Chesty Puller, Wherever He Is! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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