Tiger Posted August 29, 2000 Share Posted August 29, 2000 <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>"Gosh golly, thats a real nice texture you got there mister tiger sir, I think I'll send you some cash" -Oddball_E8 <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> johnS [This message has been edited by Tiger (edited 08-29-2000).] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Heidman Posted August 29, 2000 Share Posted August 29, 2000 I cannot wait until my new P3-800 with 256MB of HSDRAM and a GeForce 2 with 64MB of DDR arrives so I can actually have a prayer of playing with these mods. Are you planning on giving the hi-rez treatment to any of the allied vehicles? Jeff Heidman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Posted August 29, 2000 Share Posted August 29, 2000 I have to hand it to you, you're getting very good at this. Keep it up. ------------------ Blessed be the Lord my strength who teaches my hands to war and my fingers to fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger Posted August 29, 2000 Author Share Posted August 29, 2000 this one isn't hi-res Must give credit to the original model and texture makers of CM. They did a heck of a job and it makes for easier "mod-making". Thanks guys ! -johnS [This message has been edited by Tiger (edited 08-29-2000).] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamstersss Posted August 29, 2000 Share Posted August 29, 2000 This (And all the many more) make me think CM2 should have multiple textures per vehicle, so we can have a bunch of different looking Panthers. And they should make them assignable and consistent, so we can have Panther 104, Panther 813, etc. in one scenario. Oh, and great job Tiger, I think I should send you some money. How about a thousand Lire? ------------------ You wouldn't know the dust of Thermopylae if it came up to you, handed you a business card reading "Dust of Thermopylae, 480 B.C.E.", then kicked you in the shins. -Hakko Ichiu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rarg Posted August 29, 2000 Share Posted August 29, 2000 Oh, my god!.... It´s superb! Congratulations Tiger... It´s a impressive work. When we can get it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rarg Posted August 30, 2000 Share Posted August 30, 2000 Tiger, How I send a picture in this board? Thx in advance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Smith Posted August 30, 2000 Share Posted August 30, 2000 John Your just teasing us arn't you - Holds up the sign "Where do we get it?" Nice mate - very bloody nice! Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oddball_E8 Posted August 30, 2000 Share Posted August 30, 2000 I hope youre not holding youre breath for that money (wich was not in my quote grrrrr) since im unemployed... I do take any generous contributions... or pity money ------------------ Wof, wof, wof, wof... Thats my other dog impression. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgdpzr Posted August 30, 2000 Share Posted August 30, 2000 Hey John, Man, you are a very talented individual! You are doing some fantastic work. Your attention to detail is excellent. Because of this, I thought I might risk a little suggestion. I don't want to sound unappreciative, so I have been debating making any comments. But I decided to throw this out, not as a criticism, but merely a suggestion. Here goes. I have noticed that the browns you are using may benefit from some slight altering. Namely, to my eye (from years of modelling experience and research) the browns are a little too gray. The most commonly applied brown was a reddish-brown. Because of differences in how it was diluted in the field there was considerable variance, but there was almost always a reddish tint to it. In some cases, it would almost look more red than brown. I could be totally wrong here, and I admit I'm too lazy to dig out my references, but seems like I do remember there being two distinct types of brown used as overspray, one being red-brown, the other being chocolate brown. You may be trying to model the latter, but I believe red-brown was far more common. Perhaps others may be able to correct me on this because I am certainly no expert, but I do believe a slight 'tweak' might get you into the realm of "dead solid perfect." Thanks for all your work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger Posted August 30, 2000 Author Share Posted August 30, 2000 I dunno jgdpzr. I know the historical camo jobs but keep in mind that the variety of patterns was enormous. It all dpends on what the crews had available, what was readily there to put the paint on (mops even), how long it's been between paint jobs, weathering effects, combat effect on it, and most of all what looks "good" while you're texturizing it. -johnS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanehb Posted August 31, 2000 Share Posted August 31, 2000 Tiger I could use a copy. Please send or post Kanehb@msn.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pzvg Posted August 31, 2000 Share Posted August 31, 2000 I second what John said, the camo paints they used were delivered in paste form and designed to be cut with thinner, In the field, troops would use deisel,gas or even water, which would vary the shade by a large amount, If you hold to the basic camo style they used, almost any shade is acceptable. Btw John, keep 'em coming ------------------ Pzvg "Murphy's law of combat #10, never forget your weapon is made by the lowest bidder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Splinty Posted August 31, 2000 Share Posted August 31, 2000 Simply amazing,Tiger. ------------------ Nicht Schiessen!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgdpzr Posted August 31, 2000 Share Posted August 31, 2000 John, As I stated in my original post, I agree that there was very wide variance in terms of shading because of the way the paint was mixed in the field. However, it is my understanding that by this point in the war, the paste being supplied was red-brown (it was even labeled red-brown, in German of course, IIRC), rather than chocolate brown. I believe chocolate brown was used earlier in the war (for example very early vehicles may have had it oversprayed over the panzer gray). The information that I have seen, as well as the very few color photos and some of the original red brown paint I have seen on a couple of vehicles at the Patton Museum, point to a fairly distinctive reddish tint to the paint. This should be true regardless of how it is diluted. But, I really don't want to sound like a nitpicker. So, please feel free to totally disregard this. As I say, you do great work. That's what is important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianc Posted August 31, 2000 Share Posted August 31, 2000 Tiger Tiger Tiger, Your latest efforts at this are really looking fantastic, and you keep posting 'em. The one question you never answer is: how the hell do we get them? Or are you just tantalizing everyone here for the fun of it? C'mon man, give over! Do we need to bombard you with email or what? Share the wealth! ianc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IntelWeenie Posted August 31, 2000 Share Posted August 31, 2000 Yea, Tiger, make it easier for us to get these, too! Why not call up Madmatt and see if he will afford you the courtesy of featuring them on CMHQ? I'd say the quality of your work is at least the equal of the others available there. ------------------ "Belly to belly and everything's better" - Russian proverb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeeGTO Posted August 31, 2000 Share Posted August 31, 2000 Tiger, Truly a work of art! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oddball_E8 Posted August 31, 2000 Share Posted August 31, 2000 Actually inetelWeenie is right Tiger... ask madmatt if you cant post all your mods on his site... as long as you make a Hetzer mod i cant see him denying you the privelage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Madmatt Posted August 31, 2000 Share Posted August 31, 2000 <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by IntelWeenie: Yea, Tiger, make it easier for us to get these, too! Why not call up Madmatt and see if he will afford you the courtesy of featuring them on CMHQ? I'd say the quality of your work is at least the equal of the others available there. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> He has and they will... Madmatt ------------------ If it's in Combat Mission, it's on Combat Mission HQ! Combat Mission HQ CMHQ-Annex, The Alternative side of Combat Mission CMHQ-Annex Host of the Combat Mission WebRing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oddball_E8 Posted August 31, 2000 Share Posted August 31, 2000 Goodie, Goodie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PzKpfw 1 Posted September 1, 2000 Share Posted September 1, 2000 <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by jgdpzr: John, A However, it is my understanding that by this point in the war, the paste being supplied was red-brown (it was even labeled red-brown, in German of course, IIRC), rather than chocolate brown. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> German tank base color was changed from Dunkelgrau (dark grey) to Dunkel gelb,(dark yellow) as of Febuary 1943. The dark yellow base was then usualy but not always comoflauge oversprayed with, Olivegruen (olive green) & Rotbraun, (red brown) by units in the feild. The consistency of the colors was affected by what ever thinning method was used to thin the paint, ie, gasoline, etc. Regards, John Waters ------------------ Make way evil, I'm armed to the teeth and packing a hamster! [This message has been edited by PzKpfw 1 (edited 08-31-2000).] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Germanboy Posted September 1, 2000 Share Posted September 1, 2000 <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by jgdpzr: some of the original red brown paint I have seen on a couple of vehicles at the Patton Museum, point to a fairly distinctive reddish tint to the paint. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> That's rust! Great work Tiger... ------------------ Andreas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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