Erwin Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 Buying new systems and reading there are drawbacks to Win 11 and it's better to stick with Win 10 OS. What are your experiences? Will CM run on Win 11 same as Win 10? What about older games like Silent Hunter, WITPAE, GTA series etc? Also, what about MS Office versions? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacillator Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 (edited) 11 here and it's fine, runs all CM that I have (even Afghanistan). Can't comment much on Silent Hunter etc. as I haven't played them recently but I imagine they'll be okay. It does play Sniper Elite (any version) and Il-2. Office is fine, except for my personal bug-bear. Installing 365 from one of my jobs somehow gave Microsoft and that employer partial control of my laptop, such that I'm forced to change my password frequently and all that BS. I may be leaving that employer soon so that might bite me. Anyway, that would not be an issue for you. EDIT: Forgot to mention the PITA that is OneDrive. I would disable that straight away with any OS. Edited August 20 by Vacillator 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Canadian Cat Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 1 hour ago, Erwin said: Will CM run on Win 11 same as Win 10 Yes. No difference there that I can see. 1 hour ago, Erwin said: reading there are drawbacks to Win 11 and it's better to stick with Win 10 OS. Humm about the only thing I don't like is the task bar defaults to stacking instances of the same process just like Win 10 except in Win 11 you cannot tell it to stop doing that. It hasn't bothered me enough to go find a task bar replacement though. Everything else seems the same or equivalent. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuckdyke Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 As above Win 11 runs just fine. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centurian52 Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 My experience with Win11 so far (at work, I'm still running Win10 at home) is that it's pretty much the same as Win10. But everything about the UI is just a tiny bit worse. Not a lot worse. And it's mostly the same. But every point of difference between the Win10 UI and the Win11 UI is just a teeny bit worse. I feel like Windows peaked around XP or 7, and now Windows users are condemned to a gradual torment as every new OS slowly gets just a little bit worse than the last. I'm fed up enough with Microsoft that I'm slowly making the switch to Linux. I've got most of my games running on my Linux laptop (including CM1). Still working out some of the kinks with getting CM2 to work before I switch my desktop to Linux. And of course I'll want to wait and see how ++redacted++ runs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacillator Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 22 minutes ago, Centurian52 said: I'll want to wait and see how ++redacted++ runs. You're such a tease . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwolf Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 5 hours ago, Vacillator said: Office is fine, except for my personal bug-bear. Installing 365 from one of my jobs somehow gave Microsoft and that employer partial control of my laptop, such that I'm forced to change my password frequently and all that BS. I may be leaving that employer soon so that might bite me. Anyway, that would not be an issue for you. When you leave that job they will almost certainly remotely wipe that laptop. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erwin Posted August 21 Author Share Posted August 21 Researching Win 11, I came across this: https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/windows-11-device-encryption-enabled-by-default/ Apparently there is a Win 11 update - in which "BitLocker" (a security app I think) significantly slows Win 11 systems even with SSD. I guess one needs to disable it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacillator Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 12 hours ago, Redwolf said: When you leave that job they will almost certainly remotely wipe that laptop. Which I would have an issue with, as I bought it, I paid for Windows and everything else on it except Office 365. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centurian52 Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 14 minutes ago, Vacillator said: Which I would have an issue with, as I bought it, I paid for Windows and everything else on it except Office 365. You might see if it's possible to remove Office 365 before you leave that job. If you still need office products, Libre Office works well enough for me. It's free and it won't take over your computer (and works on both Windows and Linux (possibly Mac too, but I can't really test that)). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erwin Posted August 21 Author Share Posted August 21 What experiences have you had with Libre Office?? Can it replace MS Office for basic tasks like e-mail, web browsing, writing documents? What about pdf's etc? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centurian52 Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Erwin said: What experiences have you had with Libre Office?? Can it replace MS Office for basic tasks like e-mail, web browsing, writing documents? What about pdf's etc? For sure writing documents, pdfs, spreadsheets, etc... As far as I can tell Libre Office Writer is a carbon copy of Word, while Libre Office Calc is a carbon copy of Excel. I'm not sure if they have an email application since I've never looked into it. I've never seen any reason to use a dedicated email application, rather than just accessing my email through my browser (personally, I'd rather not get a desktop notification every single time I get a new email). You use MS Office for web browsing? What's wrong with just using a web browser*? *Personally I tend to use either Firefox or Chrome. Though with the huge number of browsers out there I'm thinking of looking around to see if there is one that better suits my tastes. Edited August 21 by Centurian52 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Canadian Cat Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 43 minutes ago, Centurian52 said: For sure writing documents, pdfs, spreadsheets, etc... As far as I can tell Libre Office Writer is a carbon copy of Word, while Libre Office Calc is a carbon copy of Excel. +1 for Libre office. I'm not sure if carbon copy is a good phrase. Each component are roughly equivalent but if you do anything more complex than letter writing or balance sheets you will find you need to learn some unique UI / code to get things done. None of which are hard and frankly I would have to look up on the internet for MS Office too. Libre gets the job done with some degree of file compatibility (all my files move back and froth with no issue - a complex stock portfolio balancing sheet that I got from an external author needed some work). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centurian52 Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 2 minutes ago, A Canadian Cat said: I'm not sure if carbon copy is a good phrase Fair enough. I just know I can do everything in Writer that I can do in Word. And I've never learned how to do the more complex stuff in either Calc or Excel. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Canadian Cat Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 Just now, Centurian52 said: I just know I can do everything in Writer that I can do in Word. Yep, that's the bottom line and there is plenty of help on the internet for anything you might need to learn. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacillator Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 3 hours ago, Centurian52 said: You might see if it's possible to remove Office 365 before you leave that job Yes I will have to do that anyway (legally speaking) and I had wondered whether that might remove the 'controlling behaviour'. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Canadian Cat Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 57 minutes ago, Vacillator said: Yes I will have to do that anyway (legally speaking) and I had wondered whether that might remove the 'controlling behaviour'. It is possible that a restore point might save your bacon here. Could go back to one before the job installed their ****e and then just fix up anything that you wanted to keep. I forget how long you said you installed this. I was burned by this carp once years ago. When cell phones were really taking off. I took a work provided phone and let my daughter have my old one. Fast forward a couple of years and I was laid off and they took the phone back on the spot. I couldn't even call my wife to tell her what happened. ****ers. Never doing that again. Next job "we'd like everyone to try out our new mobile phone app" OK I read the TOS which included a line that they would disable the phone if you left the company. Not the app the phone. I pointed this out and said nope. They said "oh we would never do that". OK then remove that from the TOS. They never did and I never installed it. Do not install work ****e on your personal devices. If they have something they want you to use and they plan to control the device it's installed on then they buy the hardware. Period. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacillator Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 32 minutes ago, A Canadian Cat said: Do not install work ****e on your personal devices. I would agree Ian. With hindsight I should have said "it's lockdown and I'm working at home, I need you to buy me a laptop". But I needed a laptop for my own stuff aka CM so I just bought one and used (still use) it for two jobs and my own stuff. I've asked the IT department what might happen when I go, but they're notoriously sh1te at knowing or doing anything so I've also asked an external IT specialist who I know is good. We'll see... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erwin Posted August 21 Author Share Posted August 21 1 hour ago, A Canadian Cat said: Do not install work ****e on your personal devices. If they have something they want you to use and they plan to control the device it's installed on then they buy the hardware. Period. +1. My wife was a sr exec and learned fast to have a personal phone and a work phone and never use work for personal or personal for work. Same with laptops or even e-mail addresses. When she left they either took everything back or disabled it. But, then the co found they had no way to contact her to ask questions when they got in a jam!!! I thought it was hilarious. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Canadian Cat Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 29 minutes ago, Vacillator said: I would agree Ian. With hindsight I should have Yeah, we all have those with hindsight moments. All we can do is learn from them and hopefully learn from others sometimes too. Good luck. Let us know what happens. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erwin Posted August 21 Author Share Posted August 21 (edited) Re Libre Office. So, a non techie like my wife can learn to use it for word processing etc? She can use Chrome to browse, free SpyBot and AVG for security... E-mail she likes Outlook for rather than having to go through Earthlink. Is there an alternative? Edited August 21 by Erwin 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Canadian Cat Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 2 minutes ago, Erwin said: co found they had no way to contact her to ask questions when they got in a jam!!! I thought it was hilarious. LOL excellent! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erwin Posted August 21 Author Share Posted August 21 2 minutes ago, A Canadian Cat said: LOL excellent! They had to send round messengers with docs to our address. That gave her the opportunity to quote them back her consulting rates. And that was that... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Canadian Cat Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 8 minutes ago, Erwin said: quote them back her consulting rates. And that was that. Funny how that works. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwolf Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 I use the Goggle suite in my web browser for spreadsheets and the rare text processing need I have. There's no way that uninstalling O365 will remove the remote control knob. The whole point of the knob is that somebody who steals the laptop cannot remove it before the wipe hits. The company can release it, though, the question is whether you can trust them when they say they do it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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