Wieking Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Please! look at this tank gunner behavior.What it was?Some kind of anti military protest?"I dont want to wound any people" - that mean this tank gunner 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanir Ausf B Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 It looks like the tank was firing AT-11 missiles and they flew off course because of trees in the flight path. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eniced73 Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 Started the Russian campaign and had that same issue twice. Both times the AT missile veared off course nowhere near it's target. I chalked it up to the wire getting tangled in tree branches???? What circumstances dictate whether the gunner chooses AT over main cannon??? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanir Ausf B Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 What circumstances dictate whether the gunner chooses AT over main cannon??? Only Charles knows. There is some randomness, however. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kettler Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 Wieking,Welcome aboard!It's most helpful that you provided video of what happened, but do you have the actual turn save available for examination by BFC or one of the Beta Testers? If so, that would reveal a great deal more, since the engagement could then be reviewed minutely from all sorts of angles, to establish what happened. In terms of the mere mortals here, it would be helpful to know what the engagement range was. The AT-11 is intended to 1) strike targets outside of main gun range, 2) engage targets of low hit probability otherwise and 3) defend against helicopter and other slow mover aerial attack. If 3) sounds crazy, understand that TOW has both air-to-air and surface-to-air kills vs helos. For comparison, TOW has an average speed of 188 m/sec vs 250 m/sec for the AT-11.Vanir Ausf B,I'd think that a tree strike, for a weapon traveling a few meters AGL, would bring it down much faster than what we saw, but then, I don't know how detailed the missile kinematics model is. Two meters are precios little to play with, and missiles are fragile things.eniced73,The AT-11, and all Russian ATGMs fired from tank cannon, are laser beam riders. There are no wires to snag. Interrupt the guidance beam, and crash goes the missile.Regards,John Kettler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wieking Posted November 30, 2015 Author Share Posted November 30, 2015 It looks like the tank was firing AT-11 missiles and they flew off course because of trees in the flight path.What kind of trees? combat anti-laser trees?The only sing what you must do to hit target with AT-11: jast hold the mark on target.My ganner is drank or some kind of pacifist or both - its the only solution 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanir Ausf B Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 (edited) Trees in the flight path of any guided ground-launched missile in the game have a high probability of causing that missile to fly off course. Except for Javelins. I'm not saying that's necessarily how it works in reality, I'm saying that's how it works in the game. You asked what happened. That's what happened. Edited November 30, 2015 by Vanir Ausf B 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lille Fiskerby Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 Why did the T72 not fire HE round against the AT-gun ? it seems strange to fire AT-11 against AT-gun. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTR Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 (edited) If you want my opinion, this looks like a Shtora jammer was operational on the Ukranian side. Especially the second time where the missile loses guidance mid-flight. It is possible, since BM Oplot is equipped with Shtora-1. I don't know if BM Oplot is present in the scenario though. It is still interesting as to why the crew chose an GLATGM, range here seems permisive of a HE shot, even counting inferior ballistics and, therefore, accuracy. Edited November 30, 2015 by BTR 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wieking Posted November 30, 2015 Author Share Posted November 30, 2015 (edited) If you want my opinion, this looks like a Shtora jammer was operational on the Ukranian side. Especially the second time where the missile loses guidance mid-flight. It is possible, since BM Oplot is equipped with Shtora-1. I don't know if BM Oplot is present in the scenario though. It is still interesting as to why the crew chose an GLATGM, range here seems permisive of a HE shot, even counting inferior ballistics and, therefore, accuracy. yes, my opponent have BM Oplot beside. Its the most likely explanation.John KettlerAfter the end of the match I make actual turn save available. I promise. Edited November 30, 2015 by Wieking 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wieking Posted December 11, 2015 Author Share Posted December 11, 2015 part № 2 "Something wrong with sturm-s gunners"They don't want shoot abrams tank. What is the reason? Gunner-Pacifism? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanir Ausf B Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 Saved game file needed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanir Ausf B Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 I just did a quick gunnery range test. In all cases the Sturm-S fired a missile at the Abrams and then reversed away. It's not clear why it is doing neither of those things in the videos. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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