How are we doing with Fuego??

[fry30]

I was wondering where BF stood with regard to fire. I find it coming up in accounts of the Eastern Front. I know it was included in CMx1, I know this might be beating a dead horse... But again, I think fire should be improved within the game. I say improved, as I have seen it within a battle myself. I will include a screen shot to show you what I mean.... An Ot-34 hit a house full of Germans with about 3 long flame bursts. I'd imagine the house would become destroyed. (destroyed= un- occupy-able)

 

 

You can even see the smoke coming off the fire, we're almost there!!

 

 

And incase anyone doubts the veracity of my previous statements, here's a picture of the in game attack that set the house on fire (it was actually 4 long bursts)...

 

 

And finally, here's what the house actually looks like, from the opponent's point of view (this was after our ceasefire) :

 

 

 

 

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*** My only other question/comment is... can we fix the trees within the game? I understand they are abstracted, sometimes I find myself walking or driving trying to figure out LOS into the woods near me... its hard to see. But I, and I will cite sources if anyone's interested, keep coming across mention of entire forests being destroyed by Soviet and German firepower. I was reading specifically about Operation Bagration, and apparently in the fighting over Tower and Grenadier Hill during the Battle of Narva (at the Tannenberg Line specifically) :

 

"The morning of 29 July began with the preparatory artillery fire of 25,000 shells fired by the Soviets. The bombardment covered the Tannenberg Line in a dust cloud. The forest on the Sinimäed Hills was entirely destroyed, with the trees cut down to a height of two–three metres. " (Sinimäed 1944: Battles of World War II in Northeast Estonia).

 

 

EDIT: PS... we already have the 2-3 metre trees in the game (under doodads, or whatever its called.) We're half way there on that as well. Again, I know its abstracted, but maybe we could get a destroyed forest tile as a compromise.

Edited April 13, 2015 by fry30

[A Canadian Cat]

I was wondering where BF stood with regard to fire. I find it coming up in accounts of the Eastern Front.

They have not really given a time-line or anything. If I recall correctly Steve mentioned that he eventually wants fire to be modelled beyond the smouldering effect that we have now but that it was quite a bit of work. They have lots of time on the calendar to fit it into the engine with three more game families in the eastern front and their modules.  I hope sooner rather than later.

 

destroyed forest tile as a compromise.

 

You mean to represent forests destroyed prior to the CM battle because trees can be destroyed now by HE.  Mind you I have no idea how much HE it would take in game to render a forested area treeless.

[sburke]

Yeah fire is one of those items that is a long time coming. You can simulate a blasted forest in the editor, broadsword has done an excellent job of that in our campaign, but you can't create that look from a bombardment. Would be cool if blasted trees could leave stumps instead of just disappearing. I'd really like to see fire with dynamic lighting effects. Oh man I think I just drooled on my keyboard. Damn you fry!

Btw, what is your favorite show to listen to these days? I was hooked on the fox theatre 77 for a while, but I think I played it a bit too much. Trying to find a good copy of a show I went to a long way back at the Scope in Norfolk VA. Slight derailment, but you picked your icon.

[fry30]

I've been gravitating more and more towards the late shows... but to answer your question one of my coworkers had '72 Denmark playing the other night. I guess those Europe shows are always my favorite.

 

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I've seen some of those "destroyed" forest maps, they look awesome. I guess I just want something like that in game. Or some graphical depiction of defoliation.

[Apocal]

You mean to represent forests destroyed prior to the CM battle because trees can be destroyed now by HE.  Mind you I have no idea how much HE it would take in game to render a forested area treeless.

 

I'll go check real quick, should be cool to see a ton of artillery making matchsticks.

[Apocal]

You mean to represent forests destroyed prior to the CM battle because trees can be destroyed now by HE.  Mind you I have no idea how much HE it would take in game to render a forested area treeless.

 

Full ammunition load from six batteries of 76mm field guns plus a hundred rounds from three batteries of 122mm howitzers. 250x250m forested area, high density trees in center, normal density in a circle, outlying areas and edges low density trees.

Edited April 15, 2015 by Apocal

[folkie]

 

 

Btw, what is your favorite show to listen to these days? I was hooked on the fox theatre 77 for a while, but I think I played it a bit too much. Trying to find a good copy of a show I went to a long way back at the Scope in Norfolk VA. Slight derailment, but you picked your icon. 

For me right now, Veneta,OR- 1972

[fry30]

Do you have fraps, could you turn that into a video, or perhaps even make a link for the turn? I'm very interested in that, maybe I should just do it myself... ok let's see what I can cook up.