DougPhresh Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 If (When ) the Canadians get added, get ready for a flurry of posts about our uniform situation! I don't think I've ever seen two CADPAT combats the same shade, and that includes tunics and trousers on the same soldier! Add to that the three or four patterns in circulation with different pockets, flags, collars and more and there's quite the kerfuffle. Nobody is even sure if our boots should be black or brown so both are allowed! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erwin Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 That seems to be the best camo strategy - total lack of uniformity. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViperAssassin26 Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 anyone ever think about using rolled sleeves in CMBS? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erwin Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 Too wet and cold most of the time innit(?) But, we did have rolled sleeves mods in CMSF, so it can be done. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Splinty Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 7 hours ago, ViperAssassin26 said: anyone ever think about using rolled sleeves in CMBS? Currently rolled sleeves are against regulation for the US Army. I believe the Marines will roll them in garrison. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViperAssassin26 Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 (1) The combat uniform is prescribed for year-round wear for all Soldiers, unless otherwise directed by the commander. Soldiers may wear the combat uniform off-post, unless prohibited by the commander. (2) Soldiers may wear the combat uniform for commercial travel per paragraph 3–7b through c. (3) Soldiers may roll-up the sleeves on the ACU. When Soldiers wear the sleeves of the ACU coat rolled up, the camouflage pattern will remain exposed. Personnel will roll sleeves neatly above the elbow but no more than 3 inches above the elbow. Upon approval of the commander and only during field training exercises, the sleeves may be down and cuffed inside the coat. Straight out of 670-1 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Splinty Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 Well; I did retire in 2010. OTOH rolled sleeves ARE prohibited in designated combat zones, which encompasses all of Combat Mission. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sublime Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 So its also heavily enforced in combat AOs? i know it was a completely different army in fact not name but I think about all the pics from Nam of guys shirtless with just flak jackets because the heat which you.d think might be a problem in Iraq too? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kozlice Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 On 5/13/2018 at 11:13 AM, Erwin said: Too wet and cold most of the time innit(?) But, we did have rolled sleeves mods in CMSF, so it can be done. Ukraine in summer? Not especially wet and surely not as cold as Syrian desert at night 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Splinty Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 1 hour ago, Sublime said: So its also heavily enforced in combat AOs? i know it was a completely different army in fact not name but I think about all the pics from Nam of guys shirtless with just flak jackets because the heat which you.d think might be a problem in Iraq too? Heat was a massive problem, but uniform regulations were heavily enforced in Iraq. Sometimes to the point of silliness. My battalion Sergeant Major was notorious for catching people taking midnight latrine breaks without their eye protection. Having said all that. We were allowed to mostly go around without body armor on our FOBs, and were allowed to strip down to T-shirts when doing heavy work like filling sandbags etc. But outside the wire was ALWAYS full battle rattle. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sublime Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 (edited) Thanks for the answer. thats interesting.. is that a chicken$hit issue or is there some reason i.e. " sleeves have flame retardent material etc"? In your experience was it the same for the Marines as well? Also and yes I know a comic book (though far cry than the likes of Sgt Rock) is a bad sourxe of info but the Terminal Lance book the White Donley about Max Uriartes ( and a marine grunt friend of mine who was in fallujah for all of phantom fury said it was the best book about iraq he ever read) time in country, he makes a few funny comments about African contractors hired to protect the base all carrying AKs. Was this common theaterwide? How responsible were the contractors really? Were they expected to really put up a pitched defense or were they more like a trip wire so American troops could mass to defend if needed? To me it seems more like a token force that would ve a speedbump and delay any insurgents enough that a QRF or air or arty or all could come in. Any thoughts or expetiences at all are welcome - I never served Edited May 30, 2018 by Sublime 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panzersaurkrautwerfer Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 5 hours ago, Sublime said: Thanks for the answer. thats interesting.. is that a chicken$hit issue or is there some reason i.e. " sleeves have flame retardent material etc"? In your experience was it the same for the Marines as well? Also and yes I know a comic book (though far cry than the likes of Sgt Rock) is a bad sourxe of info but the Terminal Lance book the White Donley about Max Uriartes ( and a marine grunt friend of mine who was in fallujah for all of phantom fury said it was the best book about iraq he ever read) time in country, he makes a few funny comments about African contractors hired to protect the base all carrying AKs. Was this common theaterwide? How responsible were the contractors really? Were they expected to really put up a pitched defense or were they more like a trip wire so American troops could mass to defend if needed? To me it seems more like a token force that would ve a speedbump and delay any insurgents enough that a QRF or air or arty or all could come in. Any thoughts or expetiences at all are welcome - I never served The contractors had basically two roles as I saw them: 1. They'd check your ID and make sure you had your weapon before going into the dining hall/other locations. This was largely to keep out contractors/local nationals not allowed to use those facilities out. It made a lot of sense because otherwise there'd be some US guy or two protecting our cantaloupe from pilferage. Anything that was actually a no joke secure location (command post or something) had US soldiers guarding it. 2. Some FOBs had them in the towers/gate areas. This was sort of hit or miss, and there was usually a US contingent on hand (so like, there might be a squad sized element of contractors, but there's also a US team on hand to handle anything that needs more detail than verifying your MRAP convoy isn't secretly filled with Iranian terrorists. In practice the trip wire is most accurate, they were there to keep from "easy" enemy things from happening (recon, trying to sneak into places they didn't belong) but also force the enemy to commit to a full fledged battle before they'd gotten close to the US (or they had to attack the contractors first, even if the contractors rabbitted, it was still enough warning to go full force protection fast enough to limit causalities. My two years overseas they didn't do much but keep people out of uniform from getting into the dining facility. A few of them died manning a tower before my second deployment, but that was basically the insurgents dumped an RPG into one of the towers on a larger FOB and that was all (no follow up attack). The contractors also if allowed would utterly destroy bathrooms but that's a different issue. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sublime Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 (edited) 25 minutes ago, panzersaurkrautwerfer said: The contractors also if allowed would utterly destroy bathrooms but that's a different issue. What their penis graffiti wasn't on point or something? ha sorry had to. Thanks for the answer man Edited May 31, 2018 by Sublime 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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