para Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 I was playing a map in RT and a US LMG team got trashed crossing a road. Anyhow, one of the team was wounded(yellow) and i'm positive that after a minute or two of him moaning and moving, a member of another US squad who was in a building a few feet away shot him!! This was out of the corner of my eye, so im not 100% sure but i'm fairly sure he shot him. I heard the shot and when i looked across he was in the process of turning back towards the enemy but his rifle was pointing down and towards the wounded but now dead GI. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkEzra Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 If my understanding of the CMx2 engine is correct: Units can not target their own kind. Once a round has been fired ballistics takes over. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mord Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 Far as I know lower caliber weapons can't 'cause friendly fire at all...which translates to anything below the 50 cal, if it's the same as CMSF. Mord. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 Far as I know lower caliber weapons can't 'cause friendly fire at all...which translates to anything below the 50 cal... Even .30 cal MGs? Michael 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mord Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 Not sure on that. If I remember correctly CMSF FF was caused because the 50 cal stuff was considered like a minor explosive charge or something...the 240s and 249's didn't 'cause FF...what would the comparison be between the 30 cal. and them be? Is it bigger or smaller, round wise? Here's some info from CMSF...seems my memory was correct. http://www.battlefront.com/community/showthread.php?t=90069&highlight=Mord Mord. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 There is a possibility for infantry friendly fire in low visibility conditions, like at night. I haven't seen it occur, but then I haven't played a lot of night battles! Whether this has anything to do with the described situation I don't know, the details are too sketchy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 ...the 240s and 249's didn't 'cause FF...what would the comparison be between the 30 cal. and them be? Is it bigger or smaller, round wise? The M240 is 7.62mm. The M249 is 5.56mm. So the M240 is approximately the same as a .30 cal and the M249 to a .23 cal bullet. Michael 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
para Posted December 22, 2011 Author Share Posted December 22, 2011 I had only a very small number of AB left in a group of houses i tried to shift the LMG team but they got hit. 2 x red 1x yellow if I remember correctly. The wounded soldier was a few feet away from a defending rifle squad holed up in a building. He proceeded to make some noises and moved around, then I am fairly positive the nearest member of the rifle squad shot him. I say fairly positive, because not much firing was going on at that moment and because the camera was close to the building the rifle squad was in. Then this shot rang out, when I looked down I saw the soldier whose weapon was pointing at the now dead soldier turn to face the Germans in another building way off and continue firing. Maybe the weeping and wailing was getting on his tits 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan/california Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 A Lt. Murphy involved somewhere? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 Maybe the wounded man knew some important secret and it was essential that he not be allowed to fall into enemy hands. Michael 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 Or maybe the two soldiers involved in this incident were rivals for the same woman back home. Michael 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
para Posted December 22, 2011 Author Share Posted December 22, 2011 Maybe the wounded man knew some important secret and it was essential that he not be allowed to fall into enemy hands. Michael I'm probably mistaken I really should play more turn based games, if I had, I may possible have the most unusual piece if gaming behaviour in the series. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mord Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 The M240 is 7.62mm. The M249 is 5.56mm. So the M240 is approximately the same as a .30 cal and the M249 to a .23 cal bullet. Michael Then my guess would be, no...but I'll set up a test in a bit and see if I can cause a casualty. Mord. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClarkWGriswold Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 Anything smaller than .50 cal will NOT cause friendly casualties. I've done extensive tests and as long as you don't use .50s, friendly fire will not hurt you. It WILL, however, have other effects. Friendly forces can be suppressed and pinned by friendly fire (just .30 cal MG, .30 cal rifle, and .45 cal). It's pretty easy to send a friendly unit from OK to Nervous via friendly fire. Also, grenades, rifle grenades, bazookas, etc. all WILL cause friendly fire. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mord Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 You confused me, Clark. .30 cal will or won't cause casualties? Your first sentence suggests yes but your second sentence suggests no. Mord. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
para Posted December 22, 2011 Author Share Posted December 22, 2011 What's the calibre for a garand? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 What's the calibre for a garand? .30 Michael 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
para Posted December 22, 2011 Author Share Posted December 22, 2011 .30 Michael So according to ClarkWGriswold .30 and above will cause friendly casualties? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 So according to ClarkWGriswold .30 and above will cause friendly casualties? I think he meant to say that anything greater than rifle caliber (in the game, greater than 7.92mm) can cause FF cas. Michael 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
para Posted December 22, 2011 Author Share Posted December 22, 2011 I think he meant to say that anything greater than rifle caliber (in the game, greater than 7.92mm) can cause FF cas. Michael Oh I see, thanks for clearing that up 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClarkWGriswold Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 Sorry, I should have said anything smaller than .50 cal will not cause casualties. You can fire .30 cal at your own guys all day long with no wounded or KIA. You'll cause suppression, but not kills. It's only once you get to .50 cal, grenades, etc. that you have to worry about friendly fire kills. I went back and edited my post to clear up the confusion (hopefully) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mord Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 So, same as CMSF then...cool. Thanks brotha! Mord. P.S. My guess was good...Hey, Emrys...check out my big ol' brain! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Statisoris Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 Maybe the wounded man knew some important secret and it was essential that he not be allowed to fall into enemy hands. Michael Or maybe he knew too much about super secret black projects being run by the allies and was going to defect. The OSS assassinated him. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 Or maybe he knew too much about super secret black projects being run by the allies and was going to defect. The OSS assassinated him. No, actually he knew the time and place for D-Day and his buddy forgot that that had already occurred. Fortunes of war, doncha know. Michael 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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