Sgt Schultz Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 YIKES! This posting has seemed like a punishment since I was a teenager and found out about this weapon... the "Honest John" artillery rocket http://www.designation-systems.net/dusrm/r-1.html Which leads one to wonder about .... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effects_of_nuclear_explosions Now I don't know about you, but if MY commanding officer ordered me to fire a 40 Kiloton UNGUIDED(spin motor/fin stabilized) nuclear weapon to a max range of FIFTEEN miles away from my position ... I would strongly dispute that order. ----- What say ye? Any completely insane military postings out there that you have noticed over the years? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanonier Reichmann Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 That's nothing. Compare it with the Davy Crockett tactical nuclear device. It's maximum range for the early model was 2km!!! Link... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Davy_Crockett_(nuclear_device) Regards KR 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 That's nothing. Compare it with the Davy Crockett tactical nuclear device. It's maximum range for the early model was 2km!!! Link... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Davy_Crockett_(nuclear_device) Yeah, that was a real suicide weapon. A fact that may have actually made its way up the chain of command, since it was withdrawn rather quickly. Michael 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stalins Organ Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 For the Honest John you probably wouldn't have thought twice if you were actually in a unit when it was deployed. It is only with all the information we now have at our fingertips that we make such assessments in hindsight. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abneo3sierra Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 Keep in mind as SO said above..when the US (and presumably others as well) first tested many of their nuclear weapons, they did it from ranges that we now know to be quite dangerous..US Navy had exposed sailors at quite ridiculous( in hindsight) range, and seemingly nobody really cared or paid attention. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magpie_Oz Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 I reckon the silliest thing with these low level weapons as it puts the ability to goad a strategic response down at the Tac level. I'd expect that the chain of escalation would be pretty quick from Davo to Johnno to Thunderjet to Stratojet to Atlas to ........ sticks and stones 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abneo3sierra Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 That is one side of the equation I think almost nobody thought of either until the late 80s at least, Magpie. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LemoN Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 Well, I'd prefer using the Davy Crockett to this baby... The project, which involved a small nuclear weapon, was designed to allow one person to parachute from any type of aircraft carrying the weapon package and place it in a harbor or other strategic location that could be accessed from the sea. Another parachutist without a weapon package would follow the first to provide support as needed. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Atomic_Demolition_Munition Imagine jumping off an airplane with an atomic bomb strapped to your back... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abneo3sierra Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 hahaha, that one is just...wow.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanonier Reichmann Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 Did it have frickin lasers attached to the top of it? Regards KR 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magpie_Oz Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 Imagine jumping off an airplane with an atomic bomb strapped to your back... LOL how about Slim Pickens in Dr Strangelove ? Which shows that contrary to : "That is one side of the equation I think almost nobody thought of either until the late 80s at least, Magpie." they were thinking along those lines in 1964, also "Fail Safe" from the same year. Might want to also check out Bertrand Russell, the penny dropped for him the same day Fat Man dropped for Nagasaki 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Affentitten Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 The best thing about the backpack one is that it is a WMD called.....SADM. Plus you got to love the extraction plan: "The two-person team would place the weapon package in the target location, set the timer, and swim out into the ocean where they would be retrieved by a submarine or a high-speed surface water craft." 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kettler Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 KR, The Davy Crockett, example on display in the Infantry Museum at Ft. Benning, was originally commanded by a 2nd lieutenant and was capable of taking out an entire battalion. This discovery didn't sit well with the brass once fully grokked, as in short round! LemoN, Never seen you here, so welcome aboard! I've personally talked to Bo Gritz, a retired Green Beret colonel/lt. colonel (forget which) who handled SADM during his service career and told me of the "blue fire" when the insertable component, carried separately, was put into the casing. Am guessing he has no progeny! Regards, John Kettler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kettler Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 SADM terrified the Russians, seeing as how we prechambered their planned airborne division drop zones! Story's in one of the Suvorov/Rezun books, but I can't remember the title right now. Regards, John Kettler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildman Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 How about the nuclear tipped torpedos on the old electric/diesel boats in the 60's. My dad was talking about it...you fired it and then kissed your azz good bye. He knew that in the late 60s. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt Schultz Posted December 11, 2011 Author Share Posted December 11, 2011 http://www.sadm.org/ I mean scary? i suppose.. but threatening the Russians?? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LemoN Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 LemoN, Never seen you here, so welcome aboard! I've personally talked to Bo Gritz, a retired Green Beret colonel/lt. colonel (forget which) who handled SADM during his service career and told me of the "blue fire" when the insertable component, carried separately, was put into the casing. Am guessing he has no progeny! Regards, John Kettler Thanks for the welcome, although I've been lurking this place since 2006 or so... had an account back then, but forgot my name/login data when I wanted to post stuff again in the closing weems of CM:BN. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanonier Reichmann Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 http://www.sadm.org/ I mean scary? i suppose.. but threatening the Russians?? I'm with the Russians on this. Very scary and definitely threatening to their way of life! Regards KR 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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