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And the unfortunate part is that this is mostly self-made.
A lot of things could be done to mitigate the current crisis and stabilize the global situation. This should be the era for a new generation of Churchills and Roosevelts to step up, but instead we got Coolidges and Mussolinis. 

I don't have to do the mental gymnastics that you do by simply taking the position that Hitlers regime was evil, and anyone who fought for it or aided it was complicit and criminal. A few scattered instances of kindness by individuals in service of the third Reich does not excuse the horror that they were unleashing on the world. And likewise, anything done to defeat it was justified, every bullet and every shell. 
1. The hard times strong men meme is not from Socrates, it is not even ancient,much less mystically insightful . It was from a fiction book from 2016 by Michael G Hopf called Those Who Remain, and then morons like Joe Rogan and fans of Jordan Peterson have been taking it as gospel ever since. 
2. I see from your response our difference in fundamental ideas. You seem to take it as a given that these strong elites  are justified to exist and are the reason for good times.  I completely disagree and do not think human history has justified them to anyone except Themselves, those in their circle,  and their lackeys. To believe they have anyone's best interests in mind but themselves and trust them not to let us become statistics is naive and sad. 
 Honestly confused by this entire segue. for one it reads like praise  of Putin  right up until 2014. This caveat of time frame in and of itself is an admission that these Strong Men(the oligarchs and crime bosses)who arose out of the Soviet collapse and shock therapy in the 90's(hard times), who created these (good times)-very questionable; good for very few and to the detriment of most- far from ending because of Weak Men, the Strong Men caused it and were really the weak ones all along! They have doomed their country to poverty, isolation, and reactionary authoritarianism, and humiliated their armed forces and any good reputation they had as a world power.
Where I agree with you is that they have managed to coerce and manipulate their people into believing that things were great and will again be good under their leadership. So it goes with putting faith in elites and not ourselves

Guess I'm a criminal then. My belief that people who work and create wealth deserve the fruits of their labor, and democratic say over what is done with surplus is truly the worst crime of all. Second in heinousness to the reasonable conclusion that the current system, like all preceding systems, is inherently doomed and will give way to new forms of organization and modes of production to resolve its contradictions. 
I'm in the trotskyist corner that actively supports Ukraine's self determination, and we regularly oppose  stalinists who make no distinction between Putin 's war on "global homo" and the "woke west" and an imagined utopia under Stalin and his bureaucracy, and defend them both.  Horrible men making hard times for the good, as I said before.

I don't have to do the mental gymnastics that you do by simply taking the position that Hitlers regime was evil, and anyone who fought for it or aided it was complicit and criminal. A few scattered instances of kindness by individuals in service of the third Reich does not excuse the horror that they were unleashing on the world. And likewise, anything done to defeat it was justified, every bullet and every shell. 
1. The hard times strong men meme is not from Socrates, it is not even ancient,much less mystically insightful . It was from a fiction book from 2016 by Michael G Hopf called Those Who Remain, and then morons like Joe Rogan and fans of Jordan Peterson have been taking it as gospel ever since. 
2. I see from your response our difference in fundamental ideas. You seem to take it as a given that these strong elites  are justified to exist and are the reason for good times.  I completely disagree and do not think human history has justified them to anyone except Themselves, those in their circle,  and their lackeys. To believe they have anyone's best interests in mind but themselves and trust them not to let us become statistics is naive and sad. 
 Honestly confused by this entire segue. for one it reads like praise  of Putin  right up until 2014. This caveat of time frame in and of itself is an admission that these Strong Men(the oligarchs and crime bosses)who arose out of the Soviet collapse and shock therapy in the 90's(hard times), who created these (good times)-very questionable; good for very few and to the detriment of most- far from ending because of Weak Men, the Strong Men caused it and were really the weak ones all along! They have doomed their country to poverty, isolation, and reactionary authoritarianism, and humiliated their armed forces and any good reputation they had as a world power.
Where I agree with you is that they have managed to coerce and manipulate their people into believing that things were great and will again be good under their leadership. So it goes with putting faith in elites and not ourselves

I don't have to do the mental gymnastics that you do by simply taking the position that Hitlers regime was evil, and anyone who fought for it or aided it was complicit and criminal. A few scattered instances of kindness by individuals in service of the third Reich does not excuse the horror that they were unleashing on the world. And likewise, anything done to defeat it was justified, every bullet and every shell. 
1. The hard times strong men meme is not from Socrates, it is not even ancient,much less mystically insightful . It was from a fiction book from 2016 by Michael G Hopf called Those Who Remain, and then morons like Joe Rogan and fans of Jordan Peterson have been taking it as gospel ever since. 
2. I see from your response our difference in fundamental ideas. You seem to take it as a given that these strong elites  are justified to exist and are the reason for good times.  I completely disagree and do not think human history has justified them to anyone except Themselves, those in their circle,  and their lackeys. To believe they have anyone's best interests in mind but themselves and trust them not to let us become statistics is naive and sad. 
 Honestly confused by this entire segue. for one it reads like praise  of Putin  right up until 2014. This caveat of time frame in and of itself is an admission that these Strong Men(the oligarchs and crime bosses)who arose out of the Soviet collapse and shock therapy in the 90's(hard times), who created these (good times)-very questionable; good for very few and to the detriment of most- far from ending because of Weak Men, the Strong Men caused it and were really the weak ones all along! They have doomed their country to poverty, isolation, and reactionary authoritarianism, and humiliated their armed forces and any good reputation they had as a world power.
Where I agree with you is that they have managed to coerce and manipulate their people into believing that things were great and will again be good under their leadership. So it goes with putting faith in elites and not ourselves

I don't have to do the mental gymnastics that you do by simply taking the position that Hitlers regime was evil, and anyone who fought for it or aided it was complicit and criminal. A few scattered instances of kindness by individuals in service of the third Reich does not excuse the horror that they were unleashing on the world. And likewise, anything done to defeat it was justified, every bullet and every shell. 
1. The hard times strong men meme is not from Socrates, it is not even ancient,much less mystically insightful . It was from a fiction book from 2016 by Michael G Hopf called Those Who Remain, and then morons like Joe Rogan and fans of Jordan Peterson have been taking it as gospel ever since. 
2. I see from your response our difference in fundamental ideas. You seem to take it as a given that these strong elites  are justified to exist and are the reason for good times.  I completely disagree and do not think human history has justified them to anyone except Themselves, those in their circle,  and their lackeys. To believe they have anyone's best interests in mind but themselves and trust them not to let us become statistics is naive and sad. 
 Honestly confused by this entire segue. for one it reads like praise  of Putin  right up until 2014. This caveat of time frame in and of itself is an admission that these Strong Men(the oligarchs and crime bosses)who arose out of the Soviet collapse and shock therapy in the 90's(hard times), who created these (good times)-very questionable; good for very few and to the detriment of most- far from ending because of Weak Men, the Strong Men caused it and were really the weak ones all along! They have doomed their country to poverty, isolation, and reactionary authoritarianism, and humiliated their armed forces and any good reputation they had as a world power.
Where I agree with you is that they have managed to coerce and manipulate their people into believing that things were great and will again be good under their leadership. So it goes with putting faith in elites and not ourselves

I don't have to do the mental gymnastics that you do by simply taking the position that Hitlers regime was evil, and anyone who fought for it or aided it was complicit and criminal. A few scattered instances of kindness by individuals in service of the third Reich does not excuse the horror that they were unleashing on the world. And likewise, anything done to defeat it was justified, every bullet and every shell. 
1. The hard times strong men meme is not from Socrates, it is not even ancient,much less mystically insightful . It was from a fiction book from 2016 by Michael G Hopf called Those Who Remain, and then morons like Joe Rogan and fans of Jordan Peterson have been taking it as gospel ever since. 
2. I see from your response our difference in fundamental ideas. You seem to take it as a given that these strong elites  are justified to exist and are the reason for good times.  I completely disagree and do not think human history has justified them to anyone except Themselves, those in their circle,  and their lackeys. To believe they have anyone's best interests in mind but themselves and trust them not to let us become statistics is naive and sad. 
 Honestly confused by this entire segue. for one it reads like praise  of Putin  right up until 2014. This caveat of time frame in and of itself is an admission that these Strong Men(the oligarchs and crime bosses)who arose out of the Soviet collapse and shock therapy in the 90's(hard times), who created these (good times)-very questionable; good for very few and to the detriment of most- far from ending because of Weak Men, the Strong Men caused it and were really the weak ones all along! They have doomed their country to poverty, isolation, and reactionary authoritarianism, and humiliated their armed forces and any good reputation they had as a world power.
Where I agree with you is that they have managed to coerce and manipulate their people into believing that things were great and will again be good under their leadership. So it goes with putting faith in elites and not ourselves

I don't have to do the mental gymnastics that you do by simply taking the position that Hitlers regime was evil, and anyone who fought for it or aided it was complicit and criminal. A few scattered instances of kindness by individuals in service of the third Reich does not excuse the horror that they were unleashing on the world. And likewise, anything done to defeat it was justified, every bullet and every shell. 
1. The hard times strong men meme is not from Socrates, it is not even ancient,much less mystically insightful . It was from a fiction book from 2016 by Michael G Hopf called Those Who Remain, and then morons like Joe Rogan and fans of Jordan Peterson have been taking it as gospel ever since. 
2. I see from your response our difference in fundamental ideas. You seem to take it as a given that these strong elites  are justified to exist and are the reason for good times.  I completely disagree and do not think human history has justified them to anyone except Themselves, those in their circle,  and their lackeys. To believe they have anyone's best interests in mind but themselves and trust them not to let us become statistics is naive and sad. 
 Honestly confused by this entire segue. for one it reads like praise  of Putin  right up until 2014. This caveat of time frame in and of itself is an admission that these Strong Men(the oligarchs and crime bosses)who arose out of the Soviet collapse and shock therapy in the 90's(hard times), who created these (good times)-very questionable; good for very few and to the detriment of most- far from ending because of Weak Men, the Strong Men caused it and were really the weak ones all along! They have doomed their country to poverty, isolation, and reactionary authoritarianism, and humiliated their armed forces and any good reputation they had as a world power.
Where I agree with you is that they have managed to coerce and manipulate their people into believing that things were great and will again be good under their leadership. So it goes with putting faith in elites and not ourselves

I don't have to do the mental gymnastics that you do by simply taking the position that Hitlers regime was evil, and anyone who fought for it or aided it was complicit and criminal. A few scattered instances of kindness by individuals in service of the third Reich does not excuse the horror that they were unleashing on the world. And likewise, anything done to defeat it was justified, every bullet and every shell. 
1. The hard times strong men meme is not from Socrates, it is not even ancient,much less mystically insightful . It was from a fiction book from 2016 by Michael G Hopf called Those Who Remain, and then morons like Joe Rogan and fans of Jordan Peterson have been taking it as gospel ever since. 
2. I see from your response our difference in fundamental ideas. You seem to take it as a given that these strong elites  are justified to exist and are the reason for good times.  I completely disagree and do not think human history has justified them to anyone except Themselves, those in their circle,  and their lackeys. To believe they have anyone's best interests in mind but themselves and trust them not to let us become statistics is naive and sad. 
 Honestly confused by this entire segue. for one it reads like praise  of Putin  right up until 2014. This caveat of time frame in and of itself is an admission that these Strong Men(the oligarchs and crime bosses)who arose out of the Soviet collapse and shock therapy in the 90's(hard times), who created these (good times)-very questionable; good for very few and to the detriment of most- far from ending because of Weak Men, the Strong Men caused it and were really the weak ones all along! They have doomed their country to poverty, isolation, and reactionary authoritarianism, and humiliated their armed forces and any good reputation they had as a world power.
Where I agree with you is that they have managed to coerce and manipulate their people into believing that things were great and will again be good under their leadership. So it goes with putting faith in elites and not ourselves

Guess I'm a criminal then. My belief that people who work and create wealth deserve the fruits of their labor, and democratic say over what is done with surplus is truly the worst crime of all. Second in heinousness to the reasonable conclusion that the current system, like all preceding systems, is inherently doomed and will give way to new forms of organization and modes of production to resolve its contradictions. 
I'm in the trotskyist corner that actively supports Ukraine's self determination, and we regularly oppose  stalinists who make no distinction between Putin 's war on "global homo" and the "woke west" and an imagined utopia under Stalin and his bureaucracy, and defend them both.  Horrible men making hard times for the good, as I said before.

I don't have to do the mental gymnastics that you do by simply taking the position that Hitlers regime was evil, and anyone who fought for it or aided it was complicit and criminal. A few scattered instances of kindness by individuals in service of the third Reich does not excuse the horror that they were unleashing on the world. And likewise, anything done to defeat it was justified, every bullet and every shell. 
1. The hard times strong men meme is not from Socrates, it is not even ancient,much less mystically insightful . It was from a fiction book from 2016 by Michael G Hopf called Those Who Remain, and then morons like Joe Rogan and fans of Jordan Peterson have been taking it as gospel ever since. 
2. I see from your response our difference in fundamental ideas. You seem to take it as a given that these strong elites  are justified to exist and are the reason for good times.  I completely disagree and do not think human history has justified them to anyone except Themselves, those in their circle,  and their lackeys. To believe they have anyone's best interests in mind but themselves and trust them not to let us become statistics is naive and sad. 
 Honestly confused by this entire segue. for one it reads like praise  of Putin  right up until 2014. This caveat of time frame in and of itself is an admission that these Strong Men(the oligarchs and crime bosses)who arose out of the Soviet collapse and shock therapy in the 90's(hard times), who created these (good times)-very questionable; good for very few and to the detriment of most- far from ending because of Weak Men, the Strong Men caused it and were really the weak ones all along! They have doomed their country to poverty, isolation, and reactionary authoritarianism, and humiliated their armed forces and any good reputation they had as a world power.
Where I agree with you is that they have managed to coerce and manipulate their people into believing that things were great and will again be good under their leadership. So it goes with putting faith in elites and not ourselves

I don't have to do the mental gymnastics that you do by simply taking the position that Hitlers regime was evil, and anyone who fought for it or aided it was complicit and criminal. A few scattered instances of kindness by individuals in service of the third Reich does not excuse the horror that they were unleashing on the world. And likewise, anything done to defeat it was justified, every bullet and every shell. 
1. The hard times strong men meme is not from Socrates, it is not even ancient,much less mystically insightful . It was from a fiction book from 2016 by Michael G Hopf called Those Who Remain, and then morons like Joe Rogan and fans of Jordan Peterson have been taking it as gospel ever since. 
2. I see from your response our difference in fundamental ideas. You seem to take it as a given that these strong elites  are justified to exist and are the reason for good times.  I completely disagree and do not think human history has justified them to anyone except Themselves, those in their circle,  and their lackeys. To believe they have anyone's best interests in mind but themselves and trust them not to let us become statistics is naive and sad. 
 Honestly confused by this entire segue. for one it reads like praise  of Putin  right up until 2014. This caveat of time frame in and of itself is an admission that these Strong Men(the oligarchs and crime bosses)who arose out of the Soviet collapse and shock therapy in the 90's(hard times), who created these (good times)-very questionable; good for very few and to the detriment of most- far from ending because of Weak Men, the Strong Men caused it and were really the weak ones all along! They have doomed their country to poverty, isolation, and reactionary authoritarianism, and humiliated their armed forces and any good reputation they had as a world power.
Where I agree with you is that they have managed to coerce and manipulate their people into believing that things were great and will again be good under their leadership. So it goes with putting faith in elites and not ourselves

The same answer from me they should have all been tried and punished accordingly. 
 
Also, the much quoted ridiculous "Hard times make strong men" thing is a meaningless mystical fantasy. If hard times made strong men made good times, Russia would have been a much better place at some point in the last 600 years. Seems to me they've had nothing but hard times and horrible men, and maybe  a lot of dead good men who didn't get to make a difference as a result.

Guess I'm a criminal then. My belief that people who work and create wealth deserve the fruits of their labor, and democratic say over what is done with surplus is truly the worst crime of all. Second in heinousness to the reasonable conclusion that the current system, like all preceding systems, is inherently doomed and will give way to new forms of organization and modes of production to resolve its contradictions. 
I'm in the trotskyist corner that actively supports Ukraine's self determination, and we regularly oppose  stalinists who make no distinction between Putin 's war on "global homo" and the "woke west" and an imagined utopia under Stalin and his bureaucracy, and defend them both.  Horrible men making hard times for the good, as I said before.

Guess I'm a criminal then. My belief that people who work and create wealth deserve the fruits of their labor, and democratic say over what is done with surplus is truly the worst crime of all. Second in heinousness to the reasonable conclusion that the current system, like all preceding systems, is inherently doomed and will give way to new forms of organization and modes of production to resolve its contradictions. 
I'm in the trotskyist corner that actively supports Ukraine's self determination, and we regularly oppose  stalinists who make no distinction between Putin 's war on "global homo" and the "woke west" and an imagined utopia under Stalin and his bureaucracy, and defend them both.  Horrible men making hard times for the good, as I said before.

The same answer from me they should have all been tried and punished accordingly. 
 
Also, the much quoted ridiculous "Hard times make strong men" thing is a meaningless mystical fantasy. If hard times made strong men made good times, Russia would have been a much better place at some point in the last 600 years. Seems to me they've had nothing but hard times and horrible men, and maybe  a lot of dead good men who didn't get to make a difference as a result.

The same answer from me they should have all been tried and punished accordingly. 
 
Also, the much quoted ridiculous "Hard times make strong men" thing is a meaningless mystical fantasy. If hard times made strong men made good times, Russia would have been a much better place at some point in the last 600 years. Seems to me they've had nothing but hard times and horrible men, and maybe  a lot of dead good men who didn't get to make a difference as a result.

The same answer from me they should have all been tried and punished accordingly. 
 
Also, the much quoted ridiculous "Hard times make strong men" thing is a meaningless mystical fantasy. If hard times made strong men made good times, Russia would have been a much better place at some point in the last 600 years. Seems to me they've had nothing but hard times and horrible men, and maybe  a lot of dead good men who didn't get to make a difference as a result.

The same answer from me they should have all been tried and punished accordingly. 
 
Also, the much quoted ridiculous "Hard times make strong men" thing is a meaningless mystical fantasy. If hard times made strong men made good times, Russia would have been a much better place at some point in the last 600 years. Seems to me they've had nothing but hard times and horrible men, and maybe  a lot of dead good men who didn't get to make a difference as a result.

Let's not get caught up in words like 'conservative' for what is happening.  These people not anything like what conservative GOP was in the past.  There are radical, insane people who have managed to take the US house hostage.  These loonies are a minority of the country and a minority of the GOP and a minority of the house -- but they are a minority that managed to hold the GOP leadership hostage and now the country hostage on occasion.  The rightwing media did such a good job brainwashing the f-kwits over the last few decades that now the lunatics are running the asylum.  Just look at what these imbeciles believe.  They live in a psychotic, anti-science, anti-reality fantasy land.  
But my point is that those that want to abandon UKR represent a minority of both US parties.  They will not get to continue minority-tyranny for long.  I bet most GOPers, while publicly praising Trump, are secretly wishing he'd die soon so some sanity can return.  Then they can get back to serious work of making rich people richer, which is the actual mission of the GOP.  
These radicals in the house are having a grand old time trying to set fire to the republic, but it's very unlikely they will last.  They will all most likely be in the dustbin of history after the 2024 elections.  Most of them won't survive their primaries.  They are nearly all from safely-GOP districts so their seats will probably remain GOP.  And the non-crazy GOP politicians will be happy to see them (and Trump) gone -- they just can't say that in public.  Because of the MAGA base.  The dumbest f-wits america has ever seen.  
I am confused when I see, today, so many people peeing their pants over UKR aid, as if it's ending.  This is just a speedbump on the road.  The majority is with UKR, both with the public and the politicians.  

The same answer from me they should have all been tried and punished accordingly. 
 
Also, the much quoted ridiculous "Hard times make strong men" thing is a meaningless mystical fantasy. If hard times made strong men made good times, Russia would have been a much better place at some point in the last 600 years. Seems to me they've had nothing but hard times and horrible men, and maybe  a lot of dead good men who didn't get to make a difference as a result.

The same answer from me they should have all been tried and punished accordingly. 
 
Also, the much quoted ridiculous "Hard times make strong men" thing is a meaningless mystical fantasy. If hard times made strong men made good times, Russia would have been a much better place at some point in the last 600 years. Seems to me they've had nothing but hard times and horrible men, and maybe  a lot of dead good men who didn't get to make a difference as a result.

The same answer from me they should have all been tried and punished accordingly. 
 
Also, the much quoted ridiculous "Hard times make strong men" thing is a meaningless mystical fantasy. If hard times made strong men made good times, Russia would have been a much better place at some point in the last 600 years. Seems to me they've had nothing but hard times and horrible men, and maybe  a lot of dead good men who didn't get to make a difference as a result.

The same answer from me they should have all been tried and punished accordingly. 
 
Also, the much quoted ridiculous "Hard times make strong men" thing is a meaningless mystical fantasy. If hard times made strong men made good times, Russia would have been a much better place at some point in the last 600 years. Seems to me they've had nothing but hard times and horrible men, and maybe  a lot of dead good men who didn't get to make a difference as a result.

I think you mean the Anglo-Saxons?
Anyway, this guy's problem is more that he's an organized crime figure who had journalists investigating his corruption murdered and controlled Slovakia with a corrupted police leadership, than his communist past.