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I dont have anything against Beta testers, just general rudeness or haughtiness occassionaly makes me smile. Anyway, I actually managed to find the quote http://www.battlefront.com/community/showthread.php?t=86689&highlight=Normandy+2009&page=4

Yes he did, he stated it in this forum that CM Normandy would definitely be out before 2009 is over. Not once since has he gone back on this as far as I can tell.

Ah alternative history, now were talking. The Russians, seeing their waning influence in the Middle East decide to commit their forces to aid the Syrians............ just a thought. So if were having alternate histories, why not add this alternate and call it the Russian module.... The trouble with alternates is that we can all make up what we want then. Cheers for being patronising though, it made me feel all warm and tingly....

This may be a pointer to German intervention in the future but CMSF is set in 3 months in 2008. Thats last year by the way and as of last year the German government werent into such interventions. It seems a bit improbable then to include any German forces in a NATO module that wouldnt have them there in real life. I find it strange that the rationale to leave out Russian equipment does not get applied to any Blue equipment.

So as Steve has stated that Normandy will definitely be out this year, that means that all of the above will be available before 31 Dec 2009. This is good news indeed, 3 CMs in just the next 5 months. Looks like Xmas time may be the right time to take all my untaken leave then....

This actually happens so often that Im beginnning to think that its how its done in real life now.

I also have no desire to play wargames loaded down with civvies. The clue is in the 'games' element. I just personally think it wouldnt be fun at all to include them, does your AI then aid them when they get blown up?

If your completely done with CM-1, then at what point if any would you consider making it 'freeware'? I'm sure that once your revenue stream ends on it, or if its bringing in negligible funds then others may be able to work on it? Or is it somehow connected to the CM-2 code? I stress again that I know next to nothing about PC 'voodoo' but it does seem a shame to simply let a good game wither, no matter how old it is.

Try the Demo and give it a few days to a week to get used to the different controls etc. Its not RT though if thats what your after but it is certainly more balanced than CMSF and in addition to all those scenarios there is a good Quick Battle system too.

I knew some smartarse would have a long winded answer. Mind you, a very good long winded answer. Though my point, if missed, was that, no military ever gets everything it ever wants. Thanks for educating me though.

Steve I'm not going to banter back and forth as I actually agree with most if not all youve been saying. But Im on the inside looking out and your not. I know that the UK militaries equipment and conditions have improved immensly since I joined. In all honesty though, theres just not enough of us and not much money for more and so this gets prevalence in a media that is interested in casualties. I can only say that your above statement reflects the very reason we are in Afghanistan. Its democracy at work. We were due to leave Iraq 31 Dec 2008, the Iraqi government asked us to leave as our mandate was over. Right now all the Brits still in Iraq are sitting in Kuwait as the Iraqi government is sticking to its mandate. http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Politics/British-Troops-In-Iraq-Are-Moved-To-Kuwait-Because-They-Do-Not-Have-Permission-To-Stay/Article/200907415348035?f=rss As a military force we can only do what the Government of our nation tells us to and they, being democratic should follow the will of the people, something all democracies have to live with. As Mr Churchil said, democracy is the worst form of government, except for the rest! So now we are commited to Afghanistan, until such time as the UK government pulls out. Until that time we will do our best with limited resources - as we always have.

Hmm, Ive used the SA-80 for years now and havent found any of what your on about. Its a very accurate easy to handle weapon. The mag change is smooth, even when prone. The balance is Ok and in close up areas and buildings its small length is a boon. The latest models even come with a little bipod. Ok, lefties often have a bit of trouble and you do have to expose yourself a bit when firing round a left handside corner but the thing is a good rifle. I fired the Steyr a while back and that seemed OK too. Oh, and before I forget, one of the very best things about the SA80 is the sling. You wont believe how good that little thing is compared to other rifles.

Ah beat me to it!

On to the game. I dont see a huge difference between the US Army and UK Army here (sans Javelin). In fact in a few tests the UK infantry actually seem to have a range and accuracy advantage when facing each other in comparible size. However, theres never as many of them, thats for sure. In the main though, if your tactics were sound before, then theres no reason why they wont work now. Unless of course you used to rush everywhere in your Strykers, getting them blown up etc.... They dont stand up to the Marines though, who does with all those GLs! Still, they do add a lot of fun and killing Syrians with the Brits isnt really any harder than with anyone else once youve learned what all the new stuff does and more importantly, what it cant do.

I think the UK has suffered from this neglect since about 1650, despite this we havent done too badly. I also think that if you took a snapshot in any decade since 1650 you would see the same problems and statements regarding equipment etc. No one wants to pay for the military if they can get away with it and this includes all militaries. More than a few US projects have been abandoned and cancelled in the last few years and rather than being technologically left behind, we have been quite innovative at times. We were using the SUSAT for instance when the US was still using Iron sights on their M16's. I have no idea what your on about when stating that we are trying to disengage from any conflicts? From this side of the pond I see no talk of this at the 'coal face'. In fact the UK has been involved in conflict every year since ww2, and have taken casualties in the vast majority of them. We were fighting terrorists when a lot of people in the US thought it was cool or nostalgic to support them. I wont even begin to compare the quality of our armed forces against any other nations, but having worked with many other nations over the years I think we come out very near the top of the pile, if not on top. In sum, yes we can do with a bit more money to buy shiney things and yes sometimes the politicians can be a pain, but its not all doom and gloom and our equipment is good in the main backed up by a very professional force that has high morale and is extremely effective in what it does.

Like a lot of guys out there I like to play humans while wargaming. I just finished up a battle on the World at War (WaW) ladder and had forgotten about the WaW CMSF results calculator. The calculator basically evens a few things out in the disparite battles by assigning points etc to casualties. The calculator is optional but as long as both players agree is used quite frequently and can sometimes significantly alter battle results from screen to ladder. I just thought Id mention this here as we at WaW would welcome any new players and the calculator is a good option for those that dont like to mirror their games. http://worldatwar.eu/index.php?〈=3&refcode=0&location=intro

Ah were that I was, but the defence of a people who tie 4 sheep to a lampost and call it a liesure centre is my main task right now. Only 2 months to go!

HA HA! Coming from Harry Lauder Country I cant believe that any 'Tuechter' can comment on my frugality. I spent 14 years between Lossie and Kinloss and can confirm that Copper Wire may just have been invented by two 'Loons' fighting over a penny..... However, I can neither confirm, nor deny your, accusation:)

Cheers for the quick replies guys, its now time to execute my cunning 'Bandwith appropriation' plan........

I have maybe found a way of D-loading this here (as being Scots I want to avoid a $20!!!! shipping charge), however I need to do it tomorrow and size may be a problem. What size is it in Mb plse?

Yes or tits on a fish! In most QBs the AI will just sit there until you find him. However, this could be good news for those of us who enjoy H2H. More maps mean more variety. Of course you still have to work at it to avoid those stupid QB match ups I suppose?

As I cant download it where I am, if I bought it how long would it take to ship to Europe?

Ah I see your suffering from selective quoting syndrome, possibly coupled with the ever popular 'Not reading what I wrote' complex. I dont need nor want a lecture about what anyone has done for me in this game. While it is very much appreciated what they have done to advance the game their motives, including yours are not all totaly altruistic. To be blunt, the Beta testers wouldnt do it if they didnt want to, I assume that BFC didnt approach you all at gunpoint and MAKE you beta test? NO? Then I reserve the right NOT to be talked down to by anyone on this board because of their perceived superiority to me due to thier involvement in a game. I didnt say every Fanboi was a Beta tester and I didnt say every moaner was anti-CMSF. Cheers for hopefully reading the whole post.

theres a lot of new guys here that havent played CM-1 games. Which is good, and so it may be a little shock for them.

I would strongly agree that CMSF is the best modern tactical wargame on the market right now. I would also strongly disagree that soldiers behaviour is 'realistic' and have no idea what experience this is based on. However, I would also agree with your conclusion that the soldiers do 'go to ground' a bit too much when standing or kneeling would allow for better spotting. But to alleviate this for now, you can try getting them to crawl forwards a wee bit at a time. Situation dependent of course.