Khane

Hello Hans, I have not visited the forum for months... Just saw your request right now If you still need the Hebrew traduction post your email. I'll send you the map with the traduction

I loved CMBO ( still installed on HD since November 2000 ) and in spite that CMBB is technically a better game I enjoyed it less ( and played it less ) than CMBO mainly because of the theatre of operations. I did not intend to purchase CMAK but when I played the Demo and particularly the Line of Defense scenario I got the same feeling as when I played the CMBO's demo I play CMAK since a week now and still have the same feeling I had when I played the Demo : CMAK gives me the fun of CMBO and the improvement of CMBB ( and CMAK ) So if you loved CMBO , go for CMAK. Khane

Hello Oren Try a Video games shop called "Freak" in Ibn Gvevirol street, Tel Aviv. I ordered all my CM games directly from BattleFront.com but a friend of mine told me that he saw CMBO and CMBB when he went to Freak to buy some game. Maybe they were units that people ordered through "Freak", I know that Freak does such special orders. ( of course it will cost you more than through BattleFront ) Freak's phone number is : 036913414 Beatzlaha Khane [ November 25, 2003, 05:19 PM: Message edited by: Khane ]

HOOPS... I checked and you were right. That explains why in a previous game in the same scenario one of two platoons suddenly disappeared and I was left something looking like one weird "augmented" platoon. Khane [ December 30, 2002, 05:22 AM: Message edited by: Khane ]

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Not so weird , after all , isn't the void supposed to be empty ? Khane

I ended turn 4 of "Into the Void" with two full platoons hiding in scattered trees, then I clicked on the "Done" button , got reinforcement and ...one squad was gone !! Is it a known bug ? End of turn 4 Reinforcement have arrived Beginning of turn 5 The squad disappeared when the "Reinforcement have arrived" window appeared.(I have the save if needed ) Edited : In the same scenario about 2 days ago a full platoon disappeared the same way but I have no save of this game. Khane [ December 29, 2002, 05:51 PM: Message edited by: Khane ]

Humm... I am disappointed. After all it was not a matter of "costumer service " but only an egoistic decision : all you wanted was..to sleep at night ! Seriously , thanks Battlefront ! The quality of your customer service is as impressive as the quality of your products. You are Great. My Strategy Guide copy just arrived a few days ago ( and it already became a Collector's item ) but I am tempted to order a second one. Any 1st ( and Limited ) edition left ? Merry Christmas and Happy New Year. Khane

Wise guess The first time I played the scenario I got butt kicked and ended with a humiliating Total Defeat. So the second time I took my time to study the map more attentively and found that the ditch is a perfect place to attack the Stug from the flank. That's the difference between a game and real life. In a game you always have a second chance. Khane

The screens are on the way. Check your mail Khane

Hello somazx I've played Lonely Country and wrote a review at the Scenario Depot http://ns9.super-hosts.com/~dragonlair.net/combatmission/CMBBscenarioreview03.php?UniqueID=32&Name=Lonely+Country I have some screenshots which may show you my approach .If you are interested I can sent them you Khane

That's what you do when you play a wargame : play Chess. You use your brain to guess your opponent moves and try to find solutions to the problems caused by his moves. Instead of Kings , Rooks, Knights, Bishops, Queens and Pawns moving on a black and white board you move artificial Tanks , Vehicles and Soldiers on different artificial terrains. I think that any wargame no matter how well it simulates combat situations, is always 99,999 % closer to Chess than real combat. From my experience I think that even when a ME , like a Chess game , opposes "two symmetrically balanced purchase points forces" ,it never like Chess , really opposes two "symmetrically balanced forces". Who said that the forces of MEs have to be "symmetrically balanced" ? It's up to you ( or you and your opponent ) to decide to play a balanced or unbalanced battle. Want to try ? You with one "Conscript" T-34 WhateverModel and me with ten "Elite" JagdPanthers. Khane

Two Soviet M17 Halftracks and one T-34 were quietly on their way back to the camp , passing through a beautiful wooden mountain path when a heavy fire was suddenly open on them from the woods on their right. The two M17 Halftracks look quite normal but...surprise, surprise. A few seconds before the ambush Things begin to look quite surprising when... ...the Secret units take fire positions and very stupefying when defying the Law of Gravity and using some kind of remote control device......they return fire Does somebody know something about these Soviet units ? Khane

Thanks Khane

Just testing a link , Does it work ? Thanks

Thank you for the tip DD. Khane [ November 19, 2002, 06:06 PM: Message edited by: Khane ]

Sorry...Links not working Khane [ November 19, 2002, 06:06 PM: Message edited by: Khane ]

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I do not know if there is one today but there was at least one in the past, her name was Kitty , she was a very charismatic person , had a great sense of humor , was very active on this board and was also a great moder . Some of her mods were among the most appreciated. The King Tiger mod by Kitty http://cmoutpost.net/armor/kitty/kitty_kingtiger.htm Her big "Hit" ( the one I use ): the "Hamstertruppen Unit Portrait Mod" http://www.combatmission.com/mods/interface.asp I did not hear about Kitty on this board since along time. It seems that she is still active in the wargaming stuff : she was among the Beta testers of Airborne Assault. Khane [ November 17, 2002, 03:50 AM: Message edited by: Khane ]

Yep , I checked and you are right. By the way I used only AP ammo and according the AP ammo statistic there is not a big difference at a distance of 150 meters ( at least from what a non grog like myself understand according these figures ) Is such an ammo quality difference able to give such results ? By the way the German captured T-34 has 85% quality armor against the Soviet 90% quality ( I do not know how much important are 5% difference of armor quality ) Khane.

I did some tests of my own... 13 small QBs , all on the same map : 10 German Cracks captured T-34 1943 (Late ) against 10 Soviets Crack T-34 1943 (Late). Terrain : totally flat open ground (no buildings , no trees , no hills, nothing... ) distance 500 meters between the opponents. 11 among the 13 the QBs lasted 1 turn and One QB lasted 1 turn + a few seconds of the second turn. The results : 2 battles : 10 Soviets knocked out tanks versus 0 German knocked out tanks 2 battles : 10 Soviets knocked out tanks versus 1 German knocked out tanks 3 battles : 10 Soviets knocked out tanks versus 2 German knocked out tanks 3 battles : 10 Soviets knocked out tanks versus 3 German knocked out tanks 1 battles : 10 Soviets knocked out tanks versus 4 German knocked out tanks 1 battle : 10 Soviets knocked out tanks versus 6 German knocked out tanks 1 battle : 10 Soviets knocked out tanks versus 7 German knocked out tanks In these 13 battles the Soviets lost 130 tanks and the Germans 34 tanks Then I did 8 other QBs with this time 10 German Regulars captured T-34 1943 (Late ) against 10 Soviet Crack T-34 1943 (Late). This time the same terrain but with a distance of 150 meters between the opponents. The results : In these 8 QBs the Germans Regulars lost 45 tanks and the Soviets Cracks 77 . Only in 1 battle among the 8 did the Soviets win but even then they lost 7 among their 10 tanks. ( in one of the battles the German regulars even managed to win by knocking out 10 Soviet Cracks and losing only 1 tank ) It seems that the Germans have an important advantage over the Soviets in spite that these are the same tanks and the same ammo. I am not a grog and do not know on how many captured T-34 did the Germans install the superior German optic and if CMBB does simulates the captured Germans T-34 with German optics ( no record of that in the units details of the German captured T-34 tanks ) but even so of what importance is better optic at a distance of 500 meters and 150 meters ? What are the reasons of this German very clear advantage ? Khane

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I do not read too much statistics but I am sure that they certainly represent more correctly some average soldier of different units at different levels of experience than my personal experience. According this personal experience , the experience of my friends from my unit and other soldiers' experience from other units that I knew ,it seems that a well trained soldier of a high level unit with combat experience may in certain circumstances break and panic when under the same conditions soldiers with less or no combat experience won't panic. There is no rules. An Airborne soldier may become "sticky" not after 40 to 50 days of combat as described in the Swank & Marchand graph but just one second after the first bullet ever fired on him passed over his head. I have seen an Airborne officer (platoon commander) of my company , with real combat experience who suddenly broke up during the October war of 1973 in the Egyptian front when five soldiers under his command were transformed into a distorted piece of bones and flesh and metal by an Egyptian arty shell. The guy just sat , trembling , babbling ,crying without being able to move for long minutes , keeping his head as close as possible to the ground while soldiers with no previous combat experience and some with very basic training , like drivers of ammunitions trucks were going on functioning , almost dying of fear and with wet pans , but more or less functioning. According what I have seen , when bullets are flying above your head , shells falling and you know it's for real , there is in general no difference between the reaction of well trained Airborne troops with or without combat experience and regular infantry troops with or without real combat experience : all instinctively fall and stick to the ground at the same speed. The experience of a soldier is important with matters like handling weapons , understanding orders , executing orders on the best side , identifying threats , better spotting , identifying from which direction they are being fired from , understanding complex situations and many other technical stuff but all that has nothing or very little to do with panicking or not in real combat. It depends also on what you call "combat experience". According my experience ( and that of course is only my experience ) the more your experience has been traumatic and the more horrors you have seen the less you are willing to combat and the more you are frightened. To look at distorted pieces of dead body is less dangerous than a bullet flying one centimeter from your right hear but far more traumatic. Among the soldiers that I knew , without exception , all those who had some experience of real combat were far more afraid of the possibility of engaging combat than those who had no experience of the real thing. The more the experience was long and horrific the more they were afraid to fight and far more unwilling to take risks Any average 17 years teenager fed up to the nose and hears with cheap romantic war literature, "heroic" but unrealistic war movies ( even if Saving Private Ryan would be in 3D it would be very far from depicting the real thing ) and PC wargames (even the so called "realistic" ) , has only a very "romantic" ( and terribly false ) idea about what war and real combat situations are and he is without any doubt far more fanatic , motivated and impatient to get some real action than an Elite unit veteran with real combat experience. Generally the romantic and heroic vision of the war vanishes with the apparition of the first real bullet fired at you for real by a real enemy. Then your "curiosity" and anticipation are satisfied and a fanatic + motivated soldier may panic at his first real experience while the scared and not so motivated soldier next to him may react with less panic. Now , back to wargames and CM... As I understand the "Conscript/Green/Regular/Veteran/Crack/Elite" classification in CMBO/CMBB , it models a mixture of level of training , fitness /physical conditioning and combat experience. According the CMBB manual : Conscript = "Third line" troops who received little or no training....Certain combat arms like Airborne troops and Gebirgsjager which always required a certain amount of training and physical fitness...cannot be conscripts Green = second line troop. Received basic training but have little if any combat experience. Veteran = first line troop who received first class training (airborne , SS troops ) and/or haven proven themselves in combat and regular infantry units with long combat histories and so on with Crack and Elite All that is fine and sounds a legitimate choice even if it does not cover all the possibilities of real life , but I am a bit confused with this classification : in a QB you may pick Green Gebirgsjager or Green Fallschirmjager units and then among the platoons you find one conscript squad ! How can Fallschirmjager troops ( first line top trained units) be "conscripts" in CM if according the CMBB manual a "conscript" is "third line troops ( which a Fallschirmjager is not ) or a Green ( troops who received basic training ) ? Of course that's perfectly possible in real life since any Fallschirmjager at some stage of his career is a conscript. How does CM for example modeled Airborne / Gebirgsjager troops with no combat experience if according the manual, troops without real combat experience can be only Conscript ( little or no training ) or Green ( received basic training ). Is a "conscript/Green Gebirgsjager squad" a possibility not included in the manual but modeled in CMBB ? Any improvement is welcome but I am quite satisfied with way CM modeled certain among many human reaction. Khane [ November 05, 2002, 06:22 PM: Message edited by: Khane ]

Hey Mafiozox....I thought I was the only Israeli playing CM. Did you pre order CMBB and if so did you already receive it ? Yes.I played CMBO for almost 2 years and I am waiting CMBB to reach my doormat...in spite that I seen the real thing ( in an IDF combat unit during the October 1973 war and the Israeli invasion of Lebanon in 1982 ) . Many time when I run the game I ask myself the same question : "why do I play a wargame after what I have seen ?".That's something I should ask a good therapist ! Maybe because CM is what a war is not : safe and fun and above all because of what I think is a very wise decision of the creators of this game : CM does not graphically represent the ugly and gory side of war ( bloody corps , deformed and burnt body pieces , blood puddles and so on...) Depends...I know some ex combatants who definitely find hobbies like wargames and other violent video games as absolutely sacrilegious and I understand them perfectly. Each one his personal experience and his own way to react to it. I admit that sometime in spite that I know that CM is only a game with a bunch of pixels running around I feel very much uncomfortable and do feel strong culpability feelings when I find myself "enjoying" something related to "war" like a CM scenario ; less than a year ago I deleted my CM folder and stopped playing for some time. Khane [ October 12, 2002, 01:20 PM: Message edited by: Khane ]

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