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I'll have her send it tonight! [This message has been edited by Croda (edited 10-03-2000).]

Pawbroon! What are you doing out here? It's not your turn to go outside today, so get yourself back in the Cesspool where you belong. If the poor dolphin wants to mock that which he does not understand then that is his right...now head back home and taunt Andreas like a good boy.

I did the same thing with my wife on a Playstation game. It was a car racing game and I'd always get out to a huge lead, see she was losing interest, and then proceed to wreck 35 times in a row so she could beat me by a yard (meter for those of you who are non-metrically challenged) or so. I did it all the time. To this day she thinks she beat me straight up. Well, I guess that's not the same thing after all, is it?

Greg, buddy, I gotta ask...why do you keep posting this? If you want to post something, tell everyone how mercilessly I am driving your Brits before me. But to tell this story to the world (in 2 different threads plus Germanboy's retelling of the same story)...I'll take on a whole new mentality when I load up our game tonight.

Shameless bump due to the fact that I'm ashamed that I have no responses yet.

Or if you did, he'd be running off the map with his hands above his head.

you know, I'm not scenario maker (haven't tried my hand at it just yet) but it an interesting idea. Maybe I'll give it a shot if I get a chance though.

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by David Aitken: Personally I prefer being regarded as a 'Member' to a 'Sergeant' or something – military ranks just make the whole thing seem silly. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Now David, doesn't that seem like a silly comment in light of the forum you're posting in?

Hey, those of you in the keystone state. I just challenged Elvis to pistols at dawn. He being from Philly and myself from Harrisburg area...I was wondering if we should have a little battle for the supremacy of the state. Could be fun. I know there are several of us. We could put a ladder together or something. Anyone interested? Peng, Airborne, the rest of you sound off.

A sniper scenario...probably not all that exciting. Having a sniper in a church bell tower keeping a platoon from advancing up a particular road for fear of having their brains adorning the pavement, while the rest of the battle rages on elsewhere on the map...now that's a nice feature.

And you are a waste of good oxygen.

Well thanks to everyone for the input. I agree with you that the use is not gamey or ahistorical, though I'm still not thrilled with my delpoyment of them or their use in this particular situation, ( I have 7 deployed in a line overlooking a town in a meeting engagement ) but too late to worry about that now. A lesson learned for next time. Besides, 2 have already taken out a halftrack!

I've been successful a couple of times with this strategy. I take the 3 Stugs and line them up behind the forest to the right, out near the left edge, so that they are out of sight of the road, but can quickly roll in to engage. I keep most of my infantry in this forest also, with a scattered few hiding in the woods behind and around the church. Then I keep it quiet...real quiet, and let those shermies come right on down by the church. Typically by this point, the shermans find some poor kraut to launch HE shells and .50 cal at, so they are occupied slaughering helpless old men and children squads. At this time I roll the first Stug out from behind the forest, keeping behind the hill (so that the sherman which undoubtedly moved down the road by the wheatfield can't see me) and am able to engage 1 - 3 shermans broadside from a range close enought that I get mad kills. Then reverse him back to cover. I set the other 2 stugs to ambush the road, right where it clears the hill. At this point, the odds are fairly even and if the shermans won't take the bait and come down the road, you lather rinse and repeat. Has always worked well to take out most or all of the Shermans. And once you have a numerical or tactical edge, use all 3 to support each other and attack from a few different angles.

Har Har Har! Nothing's going on. What are you talking about? Is something happening in the Peng thread? My suggestion: don't go in there...it's scary!

well then the only thing left is the lunch theory. no real good explanation for that behavior. I think a court martial is in order for dereliction of duty...at least for the guys that lived.

First thing is this, before the more aggravatable members of the forum get to you: Anytime you mention anything with specifics (like gun placements) about a scenario, be sure that you put a big disclaimer at the top saying that there are spoilers in your thread, else you will feel the flames of Hades. Second, I would first ask how you ordered the Shermies to move? Was it a move order, a fast move order, or a hunt order? The tanks will not stop to fire during a move or fast move order. It will only do so under a hunt order. If this is the case then the tanks were technically doing what they were told to do - move to a specific location. Other than that, were the tanks shocked? Down a crew member? Gun damaged? Out of ammo? Having lunch? All these things will prevent firing.

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>BTW did You know that there was only 3 countries that took part in WWII and did NOT get occupied? Yep, Great Britain, Russia and ...Finland! (same goes for capital cities:London, Moscow and Helsinki)<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> OK, maybe I'm walking right into this one, but it's early morning...where and at what point was the U.S. mainland occupied?

well if you're looking where you're placing your feet, then you aren't looking to make sure that no one is shooting at you! Not sure I like that.

I use them all the time. The move the screen faster than just pushing the edge of the sreen with the mouse. And what would you put in that real estate if you did move them?

Sneaking seemed like it was slower than Moving...just my imagination?

Tanker - thanks for the opinion. I think you pretty much defined my use of the word "gamey": ahistorical. The question isn't whether or not a unit can accomplish the desired task, but whether or not logic and tactics dictate that said unit would ever be used for the task. Meaning, I can move 6 bazooka teams around and train them all to fire on infantry, probably doing decent damage, but that wouldn't have ever happened I'm sure. To me, gamey is doing something unrealistic with your units, whether it exploits a whole in the coding logic or not. It ruins my fun to know I'm not keeping with the "spirit of the game." That's why I was unsure on this one. Is it conceivable that this type of unit would be deployed in such a manner? I suppose it could have happened, but I enjoy the game more if I feel that I'm leading my troops in a manner and context that is historically accurate. Sorry for that long-winded definition of gamey. Suppose that belonged in the other thread.

That scene from Private Ryan was exactly what I was hoping for. I saw how that gun made sloppy joe of that squad and thought I'd try it myself. A friend of mine grabbed the motorized one (can't remember the name right now) and trained that on some of my infantry, and it was cery effective. I'm very curious to see how it works out. Considering their spacing, he'll need to use a lot of artty to get them all.

David, I'm playing the Arnhem scenario that came with the game right now. I'm sure I know what you'll say if I ask if yours is better, but can you tell me what the big difference is that makes yours supreme?

Hey, I just started a pbem with somone and purchased flak guns because I had never used them before and they were fairly cheap. Well when I saw them, I realized that they were your typical looking immobile anti-air flak guns. So what I did with them was line a ridge with these flak cannons...beautifully interlocked FOV, with great range. They'll chew up any infantry that come within sight. Now maybe I'm wrong, but I have a feeling that the Germans rarely if ever deployed this manner of weapon into an infantry surpressing position, and certainly not with that express purpose. Now should this be considered a gamey tactic? To be truthful, I had no idea what I was getting when I seleceted them (sure I had an idea, but not exactly). I suppose I can argue that he could have air support and this gives me the chance to shoot them down, but that wasn't really my intent. So the question is this: Is using equipment in a manner that isn't in the spirit of how that equipment was actually used a gamey technique? If so, I'll not use that again. If not, then maybe this is a great, cheap way to hammer infantry. Either way, I can't stop now, but I'd like to hear people's opinions.

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