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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by grunto: i would say that they had the best usage of tanks, and the radios were a factor. on the other hand the french had some decent vehicles but no radios. some of the french tanks were better than the german from an armor protection and main gun standpoint. then in 1941 the KV and t-34 series had superior armored protection and main gun, and the t-34 was perhaps more mobile than any german tank in the summer of 1941. on the other hand they too had very few radios in their tanks, and the early t-34 had a 1-man crew. also, consider the british matilda. in the french campaign that was a nasty surprise at arras for the germans if memory serves. in any case i'm not sure if you can call a pzIIIe or pzIVc 'better' than the best french, soviet, or british tanks of 1940-41 but the germans sure knew how to use them from a communication and manuever standpoint. the germans knew about 'mass' and 'breakthrough' while the western allies and later the russians were still deploying the tanks in a mainly piecemeal, infantry support fashion. actually, if what i write here holds any water, prehaps the wermacht would be even more fascinating in that they were successful early with tank hardware which was actually inferior 'on paper' to the competition in many respects. thanks for your consideration, andy <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> oddly enough, this is related to my wondering why starfleet had such wimpy vessels compared to the klingon and romulan ships in star trek. also why the us ships had fewer weapons that ussr ships. see, although the french had some good tanks, it was the germ's ability to manouever and communicate that carried the day, along with local superiority. that's why in star trek the federation was ok with weaker ships: they had more of 'em, better sensors, and manoueverability. same with the us sort of: the ussr concentrated on weapons first, liveability and electronics last. the us was kept livability, electronics ahead of weapons. while it looks bad for the us, it enabled the us ships to be uncluttered since they had bettter sensors and longer times at sea(the only thing a nuke sub needed to replenish was food and crew). it's late at nite. if this post still makes sense tomorrow i'll let it be... ------------------ "They had their chance- they have not lead!" - GW Bush "They had mechanical pencils- they have not...lead?" - Jon Stewart on The Daily Show

"Just to answer the criticism in my post concerning the Germans: the manpower ratio on the Eastern Front was about 5 to 1 against the Germans and they managed to almost defeat the Russians and hold them off for 2 years." and about my germans mostly on defense statement: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by CavScout: I don't think this is true except on the Eastern Front. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> yeah but c'mon: the russians, man, the russians! in the "The name of CM2?" thread one of the suggestions for it was "With enough untrained soldiers, tactics aren't really important" just because the russians had stupid local (ok, not so stupid since they worked but...), wasteful tactics, is not to say the germans were better man for man. their tactics were to lose X number of troops for every enemy they killed. i mean, isn't russia the place where they had soldiers link arms and charge the german lines? the kill ratio in korea musta been really high in favor for the us vs n korea and china but you don't have the mystique of the us soldier. "About the Japanese Navy: their pilots were better than ours in the early years. Their naval gunnery was superior to ours, read about the night surface battles around Guadalcanal, and in many air actions the Japanese were outnumbered significantly but still managed to defeat the Allied flyers. These are just my impressions of the events of 1941,42." true they had good gunners, and torps, and lookouts. and they kicked butt at savo island. but don't foget the flying tigers in china who were outnumbered. and that other battle guadalcanal where the jap bb hiei was heavily damaged by a smaller group of ships in a confusing night battle. and let's not forget one of my favorite engagements, the uss washington taking on the hiei's sister ship, a cruiser or two and some destroyers(i believe there were 14 total) at the same time, with the jap bb getting sunk. the japanese had a good run, yes, but i think that had more to do with their airpower, more modern ships, and preparedness for war. when the us was prepared, (midway, coral sea) the japanese did not fare as well. ------------------ "They had their chance- they have not lead!" - GW Bush "They had mechanical pencils- they have not...lead?" - Jon Stewart on The Daily Show

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Mace: I'm sure if we all asked nicely, a Pacific War CM could be implemented! If that doesn't work, blackmail, bribery, or the taking of hostages may need to be considered! Mace<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> watch yourself, im pretty sure bts has a tank on their premises. your little plan might run up against some resistence. now if u had a panzerfaust... ------------------ "They had their chance- they have not lead!" - GW Bush "They had mechanical pencils- they have not...lead?" - Jon Stewart on The Daily Show

somebody actually thinks the rep deple system was a good idea?! you are talking about the single man system to replace causalties? ------------------ "They had their chance- they have not lead!" - GW Bush "They had mechanical pencils- they have not...lead?" - Jon Stewart on The Daily Show

i disagree whether they were better man for man. they were mostly on defense and their equipment was better so they usually got the higher kill ratio. it's hard to determine man for man who was better. there were tough veterans mixed with old men and kids, plus there was the difference in rifles(semi-auto us m1 vs bolt action for many germs!) and the jap navy wasn't that good, the only oppfor that had carriers were the us and brits, and only heavy us carriers(i think, not sure) ------------------ "They had their chance- they have not lead!" - GW Bush "They had mechanical pencils- they have not...lead?" - Jon Stewart on The Daily Show

probably why people interested in wwi pacific theater like the us stuff better. aside from the sheer massive yamato class BB's, the US BB's looked better. carriers were cooler too, some jap carriers didn't even have islands(ick)... hell, the planes of the allies were cooler than the germ ones too... ------------------ "They had their chance- they have not lead!" - GW Bush "They had mechanical pencils- they have not...lead?" - Jon Stewart on The Daily Show

they had better tanks... seriously, us tanks were pretty geeky lookin' and they always got their butts kicked unless there were more of 'em. plus the bad guys are always cooler. there is also the mythos of the german soldier, who kept fighting even when it was obvious they lost. cooler names too: first german is a guttural language most of the time, sounds meaner. plus there is the 'stormtrooper'. hell it was used up to star wars to represent bad-ss bad guy. ------------------ "They had their chance- they have not lead!" - GW Bush "They had mechanical pencils- they have not...lead?" - Jon Stewart on The Daily Show

"Looks like a hell of a fight. Seems to be about half the town on fire" actually i made a small map of a bunch of houses and burning buildings and titled it "It's like something out of Bosch" [i'm pretty sure i misspelled the man's name. if you know the correct spelling, please tell me..] i made a lot of burning houses (too many, i had to shut off smoke graphics as it was slowing my computer). =) basically the germs kept coming, overwhelming the us troops in the rubble, and the us kept shooting.... the frontline grunts bought it while the ss and volk strolled into my fire sack which formed from reinforcements that occupied the houses around all those dead bodies(out of view of pic, behind the camera so to speak)... that one us soldier on the right, the one where you can see his division patch was bad-ssed: he was the last us soldier alive in the rubble when the reinforcements arrived. i couldn't disengage him, the germs kept coming and he kept firing. the other us troops in the houses tried to cover him but the third wave of germs nailed him =(. all in all a sloppy enagement on both my and the ai's part... ------------------ "They had their chance- they have not lead!" - GW Bush "They had mechanical pencils- they have not...lead?" - Jon Stewart on The Daily Show [This message has been edited by russellmz (edited 10-09-2000).]

agghhh....every link on your left menu opens a new window instead of in the frame =( kinda annoying... in case u wondering i got IE 5.5 ------------------ "They had their chance- they have not lead!" - GW Bush "They had mechanical pencils- they have not...lead?" - Jon Stewart on The Daily Show

they have an award for filthy smut? what if i just have smut? what do i have to do to have 'filthy smut'?(do not answer me...) ------------------ "They had their chance- they have not lead!" - GW Bush "They had mechanical pencils- they have not...lead?" - Jon Stewart on The Daily Show

im sorry if my tone is high and mighty. it's just i disliked unrealistic games because of things like five guys with a rifle blowing away my tank.(arghhh! how i hated the little finks in red alert...russian 'heavy' tank my arse) i digress from my 'i hate rts games except for homeworld' rant. CM was geared toward the 'realism is cool' crowd. i mean we like the idea of our out-numbered troops running in fear from tanks. and we like that real tactics are needed. it's conventional wisdom in the wargame crowd that 'flank assualt' = 'good idea'. so, yes a newbie would be at a disadvantage. but if he learns the basic rules in the real art of war, he'll do much better. in a few games, your bazookas will be wasting panthers and you'll cheer'em on ------------------ "They had their chance- they have not lead!" - GW Bush "They had mechanical pencils- they have not...lead?" - Jon Stewart on The Daily Show

hey bottle rocket, is your handle taken from the movie('Bottle Rocket')? ------------------ "They had their chance- they have not lead!" - GW Bush "They had mechanical pencils- they have not...lead?" - Jon Stewart on The Daily Show

you'll probably just need a little more practice. are you too aggressive, wht your tanks out in front, charging in guns ablazin'?(i love doing that when all the tanks are blown away, and no panzerfausts left...) or too non commital? are your tanks weaker, taken out by the better germ tanks or by sneaky infantry?(my shermans always get toasted most often by panzerfausts, u b-stards!) and the game is biased to wargamers! they buy the wargames =). ------------------ "They had their chance- they have not lead!" - GW Bush "They had mechanical pencils- they have not...lead?" - Jon Stewart on The Daily Show

use better tactics. i mean to sound blunt, your infantry should be used as a last resort against tanks(believe me, i once had five squads attack an immobilized panzer because i dodn't have anything else to hit it with) first off, yes infantry will get their butts kicked by tanks IF they are without antitank weapons and no cover availiable. but, if you make the tanks come to you and ambush them, you can even the odds. use cover and attacks from the side. never move up against the front of them, their armor is thicker and there's that long pointy thing aimed right at you that spits out metal and stuff =). using your tanks better can help a lot too. again, surprise, cover, and side shots are the best weapons. "I realise this might be how it was in the war, but this is still a game" true but real world tactics can help A LOT in this game. so basically: outflank, use cover, ambush and any underhanded trick you can think of. have fun ------------------ "They had their chance- they have not lead!" - GW Bush "They had mechanical pencils- they have not...lead?" - Jon Stewart on The Daily Show

i mean, does a tank aiming at an unarmored target(loading a HE) and then switching to engage another tank fire off that HE? or is it magically an armor round? i never saw a situation where that has happened but was wondering if anyone had... ------------------ "They had their chance- they have not lead!" - GW Bush "They had mechanical pencils- they have not...lead?" - Jon Stewart on The Daily Show

and to lighten things up: a real pisser ------------------ "They had their chance- they have not lead!" - GW Bush "They had mechanical pencils- they have not...lead?" - Jon Stewart on The Daily Show [This message has been edited by russellmz (edited 10-07-2000).] [This message has been edited by russellmz (edited 10-07-2000).]

lol...i have to agree =) ------------------ "They had their chance- they have not lead!" - GW Bush "They had mechanical pencils- they have not...lead?" - Jon Stewart on The Daily Show

where is it? ------------------ "They had their chance- they have not lead!" - GW Bush "They had mechanical pencils- they have not...lead?" - Jon Stewart on The Daily Show

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Wolfe: Yep. It sure can. I've taken out US HTs at ~200m before with the MG42. A penetration chart: http://www.bigtimesoftware.com/images/mgvsht.jpg But be aware that BTS changed the accuracy of MG fire against vehicles starting with version 1.04 so they're less likely to hit their target. Also, crews are less likely to bail from a vehicle that hasn't suffered serious damage. - Chris<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> ouch...and i thought the us's half-tracks were bad(weren't they called purple heart boxes?) ------------------ "They had their chance- they have not lead!" - GW Bush "They had mechanical pencils- they have not...lead?" - Jon Stewart on The Daily Show

i have played the germs once. since im from the US i almost always play amis. something about hoping the ss wins leaves a bad taste in my mouth... IMHO ------------------ "They had their chance- they have not lead!" - GW Bush "They had mechanical pencils- they have not...lead?" - Jon Stewart on The Daily Show

i dunno, cautious commanders like me use up to 25 turns on medium maps, although i never got to 30... of course my recon techique is having troops move(not run) in formation, until somebody on the other side starts shooting. ------------------ "They had their chance- they have not lead!" - GW Bush "They had mechanical pencils- they have not...lead?" - Jon Stewart on The Daily Show

CM2: The Russian Front... it has that familiar sound for some reason... OR why does that sound familiar OR deja vu the sensation you are doing something you have done before ------------------ "They had their chance- they have not lead!" - GW Bush "They had mechanical pencils- they have not...lead?" - Jon Stewart on The Daily Show

i first read about it in some UK pc games magazine in the local B&N. It sounded so realistic and cool, i bought CM right away. ------------------ "They had their chance- they have not lead!" - GW Bush "They had mechanical pencils- they have not...lead?" - Jon Stewart on The Daily Show

probably the less weight the faster and more manuoeverable it is. which is the only way to avoid being blown away given it's lack of good armor. ------------------ "They had their chance- they have not lead!" - GW Bush "They had mechanical pencils- they have not...lead?" - Jon Stewart on The Daily Show

if people list them, i'll collect the links and put them up on a page on my site... but please list them under a subject: ie stats:armor, stats: guns, bugs, AI is bad at this. i got a little time on my hand this weekend ------------------ "They had their chance- they have not lead!" - GW Bush "They had mechanical pencils- they have not...lead?" - Jon Stewart on The Daily Show