Mark IV

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally scolded by Mace: I do believe the lack of response is because you never said PLEASE!!!!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> You new here, or what?!? Please is such an obvious statement of weakness that even (ugghh, must force fingers to bold...) Panzer Leader (damn Lorak) would know better than to commit such an amateurish mistake amid these vultures. Thank You, on the other hand, is almost never inappropriate, so thanks to mensch for his contribution. I did say "almost". The notion of thanking the other contributor to the cause... Goanna the Wonder Lizard, fills me with such revulsion that I cannot type the words. It is like thanking a burglar for not taking the carpet. Perhaps I should play his creation against Peng, and use the menschliche thing against the verdammte Eidechse in what might become our first fair fight. Whaddya think? [ 09-03-2001: Message edited by: Mark IV ]

Both Hogg ("Tank Killing") and Weeks ("Men Against Tanks") echo the story that some of the first Lend-Lease shipment of bazookas to USSR were captured by the Germans, and led directly to the Panzerschreck. The Germans had already faced the bazooka in North Africa, however, and were predisposed to regard it as effective. Weeks has a good picture with a caption on RPG-43, but neither book has much to say about it. It is a "potato masher" design, with a conical back cover that falls off the handle when thrown, to unravel a cloth streamer which stabilizes the flight and keeps the hollow charge forward. The Brits also had used a streamer-stabilized grenade, launched from a rifle, the No. 44, in April 1918!

Perhaps I was unclear (you idiots): I NEED A 1500 PT. BATTLE WITH WHICH TO POUND PENG LIKE A CROOKED STAKE INTO THE GROUND. Darn, reflexive pronouns always throw them... ME WANT KILL PENG. ME NEED MAP. Still, two concepts in a single line, and I was hoping menschie would rise to the occasion... OOK! That should do it.

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by CMplayer: ...ingången till stailkonsult-AB dit han skickats varje torsdag fm i snart två års tid (för att åtgärda sin bristande folklighet). Slipssnubbarna råder honom att hedra en viss folkkär fotbollstränare från Torsby, helst i direktsänding, typ BingoLotto. Samma kväll utbringar han en toast på Utö Värdshus där han talar om sveriges image utomlands, engelsk fotboll och nya Saab 9-5. Alla är rörande överens om att det handlar om en kinder and gentler Persson och att sverige är på väg mot...ack! huuuu! jag orkar ingen mer! Snälla är vi inte FÄRDIGA än?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> See what I mean? Any reasonable person can understand an umlaut or two, but this is ridiculous. Only Dr. Doolittle would need that many sounds....

Just when I am seething with hate for Peng, what appears but Geier? Oh, how I'd like to see them both oozing their last bubbles in an overturned Ford in a canal. I assumed the lack of Swedish turns were due to the awful reversals you recently suffered in our little drive through the Normandy countryside. The PzIV is toast too, you know. And why CAN'T you people make a reasonable sentence with the 26 letters at everyone else's disposal? Has anyone else here ever been unable to force a syllable out without some ridiculous caret, strike-through, chevron, or pictograph stuck on a perfectly serviceable letter? Ever just gotten to a word and gone "Mmmff...mfff" because you didn't have some goofy vowel to represent the exact sound? Criminy. Meanwhile, Peng: I think we need a 1500-pt. scenario rolled up for us by one of the useless slugs here. Attack/defend, no MEs, assaults, probes, or heavy petting. A reasonable thing, not Jabo! or Crodaburg, but something which will leave you very dead. Perhaps something involving beating one another over the head with Geier's limbs, as he is certainly not using them to send turns.

Come to think of it, the Jabo pilots were officers. Wouldn't it be great if THEY could assume command of leaderless squads as long as they're in the area? Friendly pilots often adopted the expedient of scribbling notes and dropping them to friendly troops, to warn them of nearby enemy, as they were otherwise mute to the infantry. A sickening example of the lack of ground-air communications is the story of the bomber support for the Canadians at Operation Tractable. The SHAEF standard signal for friendly troops near the front was yellow smoke, or yellow flares... and the target indicators for the supporting RAF bombers were yellow flares. After the first wave dropped successfully, the target area was obscured by smoke and dust, and some worried Canadian troops fired their yellow flares to identify themselves.... The resulting carnage at Hautmesnil Quarry killed 150 Polish and many other Allied troops and wounded over 400 British, Canadian, and Polish soldiers, who had no way to communicate the error to the friendly bombers.

How very tasteless. Also, I see once again I am the victim of Peng's Big Lie tactics. The chemicals were illegal... but they were NOT weapons. This, of course, means War.

Through an accounting error, a Byte Battle victory has been mistakenly awarded to the forces of Peng. Mark IV: 33 Peng: 48 Lorak, if you cannot read this feel free to ignore it.</FONT>

Noun-verb-noun, or subject-predicate-object, is an appealing format. Type each of the 3 briefings in a separate Word, or Wordpad, or Notepad file and save as ".txt" format, which you select at the bottom of the save screen. You should have all 3 ready to go when you load them into the scenario, as it will ask you for them in order (General, Axis, Allied). There are detailed destructions on page 133 of the manual.

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Elvis: The chance you have all been waiting for will be here this evening. Yes that is right..you will all be able to buy me a beer for my birthday. At 7pm EDT<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> ...unfortunately that is 4pm here in the west, and that is the precise hour when I number my turns for the coming week, and analyze the turn numbers for the previous week. I put them all in a big spreadsheet along with the victims' names and create huge pivot tables with animated 3D charts and save them to optical media. So far, this analysis reveals that several of you are Standard Deviates. Returning for a mercifully brief second to the incursion of Private Whacker, I see he is a wannabe jarhead (in addition to being severely disoriented and universally scorned). Why not a banana slug, or a recycling container lid? Dream large, my boy. The observation in your profile that "Only sissy weiners use AOL" does show the necessary social skills for any of the above, and exceeds Cesspool requirements.

I use an M14 burst.wav. A real attention getter.

Mace stands mute on the "white-gilled humpy" charge, though. Doesn't look good. Let's see... Specific challenge? Check. Sounded off like pair in place? Roge. Tried not to be a moron? Well, the trying's the thing... check. Something fishy about this one, though... This needn't stop us from despising, deriding, and defenestrating the pest, but at least it read the rules. It exhibited more vowel movement than at least one sanctioned kanigget has been able to muster, and took on an individual as opposed to certain party-crashers who bravely take on a concept (sig lines). I am seriously considering using Pawbroon's entire last post as a sig line in the future.

One great service of this site was the link to alt.booze.panzers... or Combat Mission "Hit"... I just re-read all nine pages. Also, Bullethead's classic commentary on "Losing Sherman's on Turn 4"... I had forgotten that one... Sadly, the only drink in the house was Gordon's and tonic, but any port in a storm. Good job, 109. Great site. [ 09-01-2001: Message edited by: Mark IV ]

Yeah, but... Not modeled, not wanted, not needed here, not what the Game nor the board are about, and hopefully moved to the General Ignorum or better, closed altogether, because this is a war game/combat sim BBS and the wrong place for a sermon on a topic of which no good whatsoever can come, as we have all learned at least a hundred times before. There were many atrocities on all sides in WWII but this is the Combat Mission: Beyond Overlord game forum.

I think "Hide" might incorporate the "shellscrape" concept... let's say it does. I'm not sure any of the others would be practical to construct in 30-60 minutes under fire in varying terrain. The OHP versions are best represented by the wooden bunkers, but I think moving up and establishing them in an hour is a bit much. Trenching is obviously not modeled in CM, other than as a series of foxholes. Since you asked "Why is it not considered possible for infantry to be able to move to an objective and dig in in the course of a game?", the answer is because there isn't enough time or distance from the front in the CM scale to first move, and then prepare much more than the shellscrapes. One does not dig much of hole in 10 minutes under fire, especially if the ground is frozen, or rock. I can imagine the difficulty in modeling soil densities, and national differences in entrenching tool design and doctrine. If you're really under fire, as soon as the hole is "deep enough", you get in it. You wouldn't have grenade sumps, log cover, and honey holes in emergency construction... they are personal survival mechanisms, not prepared defensive fortifications.

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Wildman: I have failed...<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Indeed. You have trivialized the verb. You are the failest. You have failed to hold the bridges. You have failed to hold the villages. If there were any hills, you would have failed to hold them, too. And worst of all, you have failed to surrender. Not to mention that you have failed to send a turn in two Peng Threads, one MG debate, and a padlock. Your most promising moment was unzipping the file that bestowed a Panzer Division in reinforcements on your tardy a$$, and failing to lose them all immediately to the pea-shooting glass-turreted cross-eyed snail-munching French forces with which I was initially Pawbrined. Now, shoot Luke or give up the gun, ya varmint. Wharthis?, I can't tell you what bad form it is to cite a W/L record in the Cesspool. Simply not done. Particularly against the Bauster. While the AI may spot him a +3 and a mulligan or two, he was a household name long before you were a household pest, odor, or stain. Do not trifle with an immaculate thingy... lest it also trifle, with THEE.

Anything with: Best/Worst MG White Phosphorus Hull Down Panzerfaust ...or any other topic/unit/weapon that has appeared in more than 10 headers already. Especially if not posted by a newbie, many of whom can be forgiven for thinking the entire CM community fell to earth 5 minutes before they discovered the BBS. Almost anything with "CMBB". Know-naughts speculating in a void, or pleading for demos/screen shots/release dates. Shoot on sight. Already mentioned, but worthy of seconding, anything with "BTS!..." (as though the other threads were being monitored by Hasbro) like a kid in the back of his class waving his hand frantically. For god's sake, just go to the bathroom. "Somefink", on the other hand, is hilarious.

Any fool who held the trigger down found a Drill Sergeant's boot in a painful place. They were even more strict about the .50 on the commander's cupola (on M60A1); use slow rate and short bursts wherever possible. The .50 was the quickest solution to ATGMs and attack helicopter threats, while the rest of the tank got into gear. It had to be ready to rock at all times. Infantry has long known that sustained full auto anything draws major fire and destroys equipment at the most inconvenient times.

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>*SIGH* I do wish people would read the history... Indeed this was one of the most profound differences between how ULTRA and PURPLE intercepts were used by the two allies. The US used its intercepts for revealling exercises like revenge (shooting down Yamamoto) while the British used their's to very carefully craft their responses to Axis movements.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Arrogant poppycock. The Axis certainly did break Allied codes, of course. Japan broke high level Chinese codes, which was known to the Americans and British. For this reason the Allies often refused to divulge info on objectives to the Kuomintang, contributing to China's complaints of not being treated as an equal. The Germans were also reading British naval codes, and for a time had the upper hand in the SIGINT war when the 4th wheel was added to their own naval encryption, creating a situation where they could read British traffic but the British couldn't read theirs (Feb. - Dec. '42). Those who were reading their history would naturally give full credit to the Polish, who after all gave the key to Ultra to the British. They would also know that the Americans decided to drop the atomic bombs based on decoded intercepts which revealed that the peace party in Tokyo had lost the argument, and that the war was doomed to continue. This was a decision of fairly weighty strategic import. They would know that the American strategic bombing of Japan was shifted to forestall the suicide airborne invasion of the Marianas, and that strategic bombing targets were evaluated before and after based on decoded messages. Intercepted Japanese naval transmissions were used at Midway and elsewhere to win battles and sink shipping. American use of decoded signals against the Germans included the shifting of reserves to meet the Mortain offensive, and the June-July '43 raids against refueling U-boats, for which great pains were taken to conceal the source of information. It is well-known that America shared its breaking of the Japanese diplomatic code with Britain in early 1941, while the British failed to reciprocate with Enigma until months after the US was in the war. Keep reading.

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by C Dunphie: The game seems to change and evolve as 'causes' take hold and gather momentum resulting in the latest 'patch'.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Must be perfect now, since there hasn't been a patch since February. The troll obviously did not read the Readme text. Vanir posted an accounting of the "side" oriented patch items, but a full reading of the release notes leaves little doubt that the chief beneficiary of most patch items was the AI. Apparently he has the most influential lobby....

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Joe Shaw: The clear star of the scenario was the ELITE 75mmm IG with 5000 rounds and TRPs down every inch of the road I had to travel down. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Still struggling with the TRP concept, I see. Is there a remedial Combat Mission class we could enroll old Joe in? This is the worst case of Artillery Deficit Disorder I've seen in a while. The notion of an IG targeting a TRP is positively... Deadmar-tian. Please edit your post so that I can spare some contempt for the many deserving others. Such as the suddenly quiet Geier... that Jabo was heading toward his board edge, and that last 500 pounder may have struck him just above the chitlins. I certainly hope so. I am enjoying the Marder roast as well, courtesy of the Killer Death Sherman from Hell. Run away, run away! Seanachai has decided to oppose my entire attacking reinforced Crack Ranger Marine battalion with a single MG, and sadly, was doing fairly well with it the last I looked. I liked him better when he was dead. The awful Pod was taking cheap shots at an unarmed man in a Byte Battle, and then hid like an ankle-biting floor-snuffling dust mite. He will be found, punished, fined, shot, and gored by antelopes while his rats are forced to watch. All other non-pudlian types are dying lots but who cares?

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Seanachai: A hastily summoned keeper had to shoot the bear with a .306 in order to save the lad's life. Letters to the editor ran about 3-1 on the side that the keeper had shot the wrong dumb chum.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> [grog]What the hell is a bloody .306?[/grog] I suppose this means the drinks are off... gawd, I love an Irish wake from a well-heeled family. Pictures of the gaming sister, then?

Thanks for your thought-provoking post. Are electrons a renewable resource? Are they endangered? Have the electron mines collapsed again? These are disturbing questions. At least a hundred or so people, in the loosest sense of the term, feel that the Peng Challenge thread DOES add to the quality of their lives. While this may say more about them than about the thread, it is a time-honored Tradition like the noonday gun in Hong Kong, the changing of the Guard, and the missing man formation, all of which continue symbolically despite a lack of any real purpose or significance, and each of which contributes to the furniture of an otherwise barren existence, unlike this thread with a half-life of a few hours despite its obvious worth. PS: That's not lemonade...

I got the same e-mail, and noted with satisfaction that his body was eaten by rats. Either security is very lax at the zoo, or he was flung by the antelope into the rat cage. I have long feared this sort of collusion between the animals and have worked to prevent it. At any rate, since the announcement was accompanied by a turn (and the first in some time, I should note), I shall return it to the survivors, who will thus have even more deaths to mourn. Someone please find out if they're having an open bar at the services.

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by David Aitken: There is one major bug which jeapordises the Combat Mission experience for too many people... I demand that they fix Lewis immediately. If they cannot correct this feature, I suggest that they simply remove it... Fix or do somefink<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Come, come, he is only an abstraction and beneath the scope of CM. It sounds to me as though you are raising the dead-body-and-oozing-blood discussion all over again. Some things are not modeled as a question of taste, and because they are illegal in some countries. Congratulations to Panzer Leader on his unexpected promotion to member of the sub-human race. Congratulations, that is, for lasting well beyond the point where it was obvious that you were unwanted, and could not even claim blissful ignorance for continuing to post. Now if you could take the princely kanigget bonus that you have no doubt received already and purchase a modicum of wit, we shall all be thereby enriched.