Blackcat Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 "my best shot to date is still a pheasant at 600m with 5.56mm " A single round on the wing? If so thats some fancy shooting. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieseltaylor Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 Great linky Lemuel. This does seem excellent info. Stucco [rendered] seems a unlikely description for a stone built building but it is possible that at the time it was rendered. The current pictures show it as natural stone. Armchair General has more to offer with more links and a discussion of tacticsa http://www.armchairgeneral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11655&page=4 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magpie_Oz Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 "my best shot to date is still a pheasant at 600m with 5.56mm " A single round on the wing? If so thats some fancy shooting. 1 Round kill : Head shot a running Wild Boar at 800m from a motorcycle with an L1A1(Scope) :eek: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunnulf Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 1 Round kill : Head shot a running Wild Boar at 800m from a motorcycle with an L1A1(Scope) :eek: Dammit, there is always somebody with a better story! Did I say pheasant? I meant hummingbird... Is this the digressing my mum warned me against...? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magpie_Oz Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 Dammit, there is always somebody with a better story! Did I say pheasant? I meant hummingbird... Is this the digressing my mum warned me against...? Yes it is, at least that is what she told me last night. Now THAT is digression. Did I say wild boar? Sorry it was a stunted mouse. (mind u that shot has never been repeated before or since so is probably more arse than class) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunnulf Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 What was great was the Sgt Major, rather than bollock me for not engaging the proper targets dispatched his black lab on a 1.2k round trip to collect the unlucky bird and brought him back. Good drills! We let him eat it rather than risk adding it to the range stew... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SelfLoadingRifle Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 1 Round kill : Head shot a running Wild Boar at 800m from a motorcycle with an L1A1(Scope) :eek: Sir, I applaud your choice of rifle. SLR 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boo Radley Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 I shot an elephant in my pajamas once. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker765 Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 How did an elephant get in your pajamas? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunnulf Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 Sir, I applaud your choice of rifle. SLR Daddy, what did YOU do in the Cold war? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LemuelG Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 Great linky Lemuel. This does seem excellent info. Stucco [rendered] seems a unlikely description for a stone built building but it is possible that at the time it was rendered. The current pictures show it as natural stone. Armchair General has more to offer with more links and a discussion of tacticsa http://www.armchairgeneral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11655&page=4 Yeah, I gotta concede that - the manor building as it stands today is a pretty impressive stone structure, one of those French houses that looks like a little castle, it was exactly the same during the war (except it lost the front wall on D+1 to German howitzers). It must be noted that Dolan was not very specific on which building in the complex the Germans occupied, it could have been one of several. The cover of this book has a good picture as-it-was: http://books.google.co.nz/books?id=h3qgjf5AhT8C&printsec=frontcover&dq=no+better+place+to+die&hl=en&ei=mxQEToinNoPqrQe_0sGeDA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CC8Q6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q&f=false I took two things away from that account I think are relevant to this debate: despite their stoutness, and utterly dominant positions overlooking the bridge, at no point in the battle are the houses in the manor complex utilized for anything other than a hiding place for some lonely German conscripts, and later an aid station was established there in a blind-spot; the second is that the German defenders who did use the farmhouse were isolated and destroyed with much more ease than those who took up positions in the hedges on the Eastern approach to the manor. I have no personal experience with being in a stone house under fire, and no evidence on hand to back up my feelings but (much like OP), I imagine the stone would keep bullets in as well as keep them out, which (presumably) would create extra hazard due to stone splinters breaking off the interior and zinging around in any and all directions, along with all kinds of crazily-ricocheting bullets. Not exactly saying it's a death-trap, but certainly that there's no good reason to complain about your guys getting zapped when they holed-up in the second-story of a building in view of an enemy formation. I presume there are some mild abstractions involved in the cover and protection of buildings due to limitations of the 1:1 modeling (lack of furniture etc, troops exposing themselves unnecessarily). I would like also to know what is modeled concerning building-shrapnel, is it 'in there'? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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