Jorges Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 Hello. When I see some weird behaviour related to pathfinding (not often) I like to think it's because of human behaviour when we are really under fear and pressure. Also have to remember that there was a drug problems involved in WW2. I use quite a lot imagination when I play cause after all these are just games and no perfect one has been made. Maybe you should too? -Jorges 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieseltaylor Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 Also have to remember that there was a drug problems involved heavily in WW2. Really? I heard penicillin was available ..... : ) For the Commonwealth troops tea was legal. Are you confusing it with the Vietnam war? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reaver Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 For the Commonwealth troops tea was legal. I have read books which state that British forces would stop in the middle of an advance to have a cup of tea. I am certain that this was the case with the Market Garden campaign and XXX Corps as a case in point. Tea being, to the British, the highly addictive substance that it is! (As a Brit, I would know.) Perhaps this could be modelled at a strategic level? Maybe a nice message at the critical moment in a battle saying that unit X,Y and Z have failed to arrive as scheduled due to them stopping for a brew? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Other Means Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 If you were going to do that it would be important to also model the morale effects, so a 5 minute pause with the "brew" command enabled would knock the morale up from normal to fanatic. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reaver Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 Ah, now we are getting somewhere. Would the small stoves and/or PE used to heat the water increase the chance to be spotted? Also, the caffeine in tea being a stimulant, would the 'brew' command lead to a quickening in reaction times for the pixeltruppen? Hmmm, the multiple implications of the 'brew' command.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jorges Posted May 20, 2011 Author Share Posted May 20, 2011 Seems like all of you use quite a much imagination too, GREAT! +3 Hmm, want some tea now and really have to go, bastards. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stalintc Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 You would definatley have to add more chance of being spotted with the new Bren gun bi-pods 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destraex1 Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 actually I had heard somewhere that the germans experimented with speed and the allies used wake up tablets. no doze? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrailApe Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 Brew Command The reactions will obviously depend on the calibre of the troops. Green - poor admin, can't find their backside with both hands - long time to produce Brew - lower moral as NCO's chase them back to battle without finishing their char Veteran troops - quick off the mark (esp Desert vets) tea produced quickly - but then the 'lingering over nearly empty cup' effect (that's these vets are still alive). However when chased by NCO's accept 'beasting' with more aplomb. Better moral and more rested. Elite troops - superb brewing skills, quick to slurp tea down, slight delay for chomping a few biscuits - Better Moral, more rested and more energy. Seriously though, the Battle for Normandy went on for quite a while, it was vicious fighting, and people being people, I wouldn't be suprised if there was some abuse of various substances, booze almost definately and as mentioned previously, stimulants were handed out. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cymru Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 If we are going to have tea, then corned beef sandwiches have to added as well. It seems almost every account I read of the British involves them wolfing down a couple at every break. BTW these are not deli-type corned beef,but canned (a totally different material that just happens to have the same name) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LemoN Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 The German Blitzkrieg was pretty much depended on Pervitin, an amphetamine. The US and the UK a similar substance called Benzedrine (albeit less effective) substances for their bomber crews. German documentation about the use of Pervitin in all branches of the German armed forces. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9GcI5XKvPs 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrailApe Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 Ahhh - Corned Dog Sarnies. Bread has to be at least 4 dauys old and curled up at the corners, sharp enough to put your eye out. Main question is - do you eat them or employ them in some sort of anti-tank capacity? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkEzra Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 I Drink Lots and Lots of Coffee. I got strung out on it when I started attending a 12 step program. Does that count? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heckler_rider Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 Brew Command The reactions will obviously depend on the calibre of the troops. Green - poor admin, can't find their backside with both hands - long time to produce Brew - lower moral as NCO's chase them back to battle without finishing their char Veteran troops - quick off the mark (esp Desert vets) tea produced quickly - but then the 'lingering over nearly empty cup' effect (that's these vets are still alive). However when chased by NCO's accept 'beasting' with more aplomb. Better moral and more rested. Elite troops - superb brewing skills, quick to slurp tea down, slight delay for chomping a few biscuits - Better Moral, more rested and more energy. Seriously though, the Battle for Normandy went on for quite a while, it was vicious fighting, and people being people, I wouldn't be suprised if there was some abuse of various substances, booze almost definately and as mentioned previously, stimulants were handed out. In order for these commands to not be abused, you would also need a "GO TO THE LOO" command, which would be mandatory after using the "BREW" command 3 times. The "GO TO THE LOO" command would have the same effect as 3 consecutive "PAUSE" commands, but the "GO TO THE LOO" command can only be issued once a unit is in cover. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieseltaylor Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 Drugs other than tea. From the Wikipedia article on alertness the British troops used 72 million tablets in WW2 - which given the number in unifoem and the length of the war not too extreme. For other stuff these two are worth reading. http://www.ww2f.com/information-requests/26639-drugs-use-ww2.html http://www.ww2incolor.com/forum/showthread.php?3773-German-Soldiers-on-Drugs! has some serious information and follow-up allegations the fairly full article is derived from Der Spiegel - the link does not work to the original article. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LemoN Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 A German army group alone used 29 million Pervitin tablets in the course of 3-5 months on the eastern front. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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