CrazyTankDriver Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 Hey, i got the problem that my CM:SF with Marines and British Module patched to Version 1.21 is crashing after a random amount of time after starting a Scenario or Campaign. Compatibility modes are not helping at all and now i'm hoping you guys know what the Problem could be. Thanks in advance, best regards CTD 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George MC Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 Are you using previous save games or are you starting games from scratch in your v1.21 patched CMSF? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyTankDriver Posted December 4, 2009 Author Share Posted December 4, 2009 It's a completely fresh install, so i'm starting games from scratch. Ah btw i have directx11 installed on my System, i'm installing v.9 right now... don't know maybe that's the issue 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyTankDriver Posted December 5, 2009 Author Share Posted December 5, 2009 Installing Dx9 didn't help, still got these CTD's. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schrullenhaft Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 CrazyTankDriver - do you know if you have an ATI/AMD Radeon video card ? If so, do you know which Catalyst driver version you have installed ? If you don't have Catalyst 9.10 or 9.11, then you'll run into a certain OpenGL bug in the ATI drivers that causes random crashes in CMSF. Here's the latest Windows 7 64-bit Catalyst 9.11 driver. I suggest downloading this file first, then uninstalling your current video driver, rebooting, cancelling any attempts by Windows to automatically install a driver for your video and then running this installer. Hopefully this should correct any crashing problems you're seeing. If you DO NOT have an ATI/AMD Radeon video card with a slightly older Catalyst driver, then we'll need to know more about your computer's specs and possibly have you download some benchmarks, etc. to "stress" your computer to determine if there is something sub-standard. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donnieitaly Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 Vista was hell to set up now we're going to have the same problem with Seven! Oh for the days of 3.1. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyTankDriver Posted December 5, 2009 Author Share Posted December 5, 2009 Hey Schrullenhaft i had Catalyst v 9.7, i'm downloading 9.11 now and report back if that solved my problem! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyTankDriver Posted December 5, 2009 Author Share Posted December 5, 2009 Alright the new v 9.11 Catalyst drivers didn't solve the problem. I'm running CM:SF on an acer aspire 5738DG Notebook Intel Core2Duo 2.13Ghz 4GB Ram ATI Mobility Radeon HD4570 Catalyst v9.11 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schrullenhaft Posted December 6, 2009 Share Posted December 6, 2009 CrazyTankDriver - That's strange. The Catalyst drivers from 9.4 to 9.9 were definitely responsible for random crashing of CMSF. The release notes for Catalyst 9.10 even state that the OpenGL bug was fixed. Are you certain that the 9.11 drivers worked with your laptop ? Often some of the newer laptops will accept the ATI/AMD reference drivers, but on occasion some of them don't. You can check your Catalyst Control Center - Information section to see which Catalyst version you're running. The only other thing I can think of that may be happening is overheating of your GPU/CPU and causing your computer to crash. What exactly is happening when CMSF crashes - blue screens, hard lock ups, etc ? You may want to download, install and run Furmark 1.6.5 (which should hopefully run with Windows 7 64-bit) and see how your computer responds to it. This test should stress your laptop's Radeon chip pretty well and may show any potential weakness with heat dissipation, etc. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShiftZ Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 It's a completely fresh install, so i'm starting games from scratch. Ah btw i have directx11 installed on my System, i'm installing v.9 right now... don't know maybe that's the issue Just so you know, DX11 comes packed with DX9. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyTankDriver Posted December 7, 2009 Author Share Posted December 7, 2009 I have to recheck my driver version somehow there was trouble installing v.9.11 don't know yet what caused it but it didn't installed correctly :-/ atm i'm running the drivers from 7th october again. Any Idea how i can prevent Windows from installing the standard drivers by itself? I think i can exclude a overheating issue as my laptop runs absolutely normal and there are no graphical errors and such... it just stops running and if i alt-tab it says CM:Shock Force has stopped working. Hope to get that one fixed asap! Best Regards 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyTankDriver Posted December 7, 2009 Author Share Posted December 7, 2009 Alright i was able to install the newest Catalyst driver v 9.11 but had to use a little workaround but now it works and i don't have any crashes anymore! Thanks for all your help Best Regards CTD 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil stanbridge Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 9.10 are best for ATi at the mo. 9.11 do not work with Ansitropic filtering apparently. But with both sets you need to experiment a little. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SABER66 Posted December 25, 2009 Share Posted December 25, 2009 Gentlemen, Can one of you walk me thru this process please. I am not a total ludite but i am getting mighty frustrated trying to install a catalyst driver in order to facilitate a fix for Win7. I have the same issue as Crazytankdriver. I have downloaded the latest package from ATI...lookes like 9.12 but it does not seem to want to update or load anything but the ATI control panel. Win7 proactive bugger that it is, is telling me its already up to date...quite frankly, i cant even see the driver in the ATI folder. Any help you guys could provide would be greatly appreciated. System specs are as follows if anyone is interested. SONY VAIO VGN FW-550F INTEL CORE DUO P8700 2.53 Mhz, Windows 7 HOME PREMIUM Version 6.1.7600 Build 7600 ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4650 (Microsoft Corporation WDDM 1.1) Adapter RAM 1.00 GB (1,073,741,824 bytes) Installed Drivers atidxx32,atidxx64.dll,atiumdag,atiumdva,atiumd64.dll,atiumd6a.cap,atitmm64.dll Driver Version: 8.56.1.15 location etc: Driver c:\windows\system32\drivers\atikmdag.sys (8.1.1.859, 4.79 MB (5,020,672 bytes), 7/13/2009 11:59 PM) It looks like a 32bit driver on a 64 bit system...not sure im tracking on this, my system appears to be 64bit system with a whole lot of 32 bit software looks almost like parallel environments...all way beyond my pay grade im afraid. Let me know what ya think. Im having the same crashing issues...at approximately the 10 minute mark..it freezes and stops working. No error message provided. Regards, Michael 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SABER66 Posted December 25, 2009 Share Posted December 25, 2009 Almost forgot.... MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE! LOL.... regards, Michael 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usgubgub Posted December 25, 2009 Share Posted December 25, 2009 I have the same problem. I can't even get the catalyst manager to work, when I click on it it doesn't start. What was the workaround that Crazytankdriver used to get it to work? Please help. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schrullenhaft Posted December 25, 2009 Share Posted December 25, 2009 If you have a laptop, then you may run into issues where the standard ATI drivers may NOT work. Some laptops have drivers/hardware that is customized to the point that it cannot use the 'reference' drivers provided by ATI. This should become less and less frequent, but you do still see this situation on occasion. If the drivers from ATI/AMD do not work, you may want to download the lastest (at least 9.10 Catalyst in this case) and the Mobility Modder. You will need to follow the instructions provided by the Mobility Modder (the page in the link), which typically involves partially installing the Catalyst drivers (which will fail) and then using the Mobility Modder to modify the .INF files so that your laptop will be recognized. Then running the install again with the modified files. There is a possibility that the Mobility Modder may not be enough to allow you to use the newer Catalyst drivers. In that case you are left to whatever the laptop manufacturer provides on their website. Unfortunately most laptop manufacturers do NOT update their drivers frequently and you're often left with the initial version of the drivers that they provide. Some are a bit better at this and may provide updates. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SABER66 Posted December 25, 2009 Share Posted December 25, 2009 Ok well, thanks Schrullenhaft, that that then...looks like ill have to revive an old box/laptop for BF stuff then...not the best solution but infinitely better then dorking around trying to fix what i cant really understand! Very tedious these card issues...well and Windows issues in general....thanks again. Regards, Michael 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usgubgub Posted December 26, 2009 Share Posted December 26, 2009 Thank you very much, Schrullenhaft, will give it a try. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SABER66 Posted December 26, 2009 Share Posted December 26, 2009 Hello all, For everyones situational awareness....the latest drivers associated with the ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4650 graphics card, released in mid-August 09, DO NOT work with CMSF and the modules. The game will likely crash and freeze up anywhere from 10 minutes to 25 minutes (the longest i managed) into any given scenario. My system specs were listed above should anyone need to compare notes. Thanks for all the advice here just the same. Regards, Michael 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schrullenhaft Posted December 26, 2009 Share Posted December 26, 2009 A mid-August release ATI/AMD Catalyst driver was most likely Catalyst 9.8, which has the OpenGL bug that causes CMSF to crash. This problem wasn't fixed by ATI/AMD until Catalyst 9.10. Catalyst drivers from 9.4 to 9.9 have this problem. If you're stuck using the video drivers that a laptop manufacturer provides, then the best solution is to lobby your laptop manufacturer's customer support for a newer driver. The often costs the laptop manufacturer some money since they may contract only for one or more updates to their laptop's drivers from ATI/AMD before having to pay more money. Admittedly complaints from a lot of users about VERY popular games will probably get the most attention (since it could hurt their bottom line if enough potential buyers figure out that the laptop won't work with a certain game, etc.). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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