Falconander Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 Hey, What is the difference between the rounds and how do I know which ones they are firing? So far I have seen 40mm HE and 40mm HEDP... Any help is appreciated.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c3k Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 Try this page: http://www.armystudyguide.com/content/army_board_study_guide_topics/m203/m203-ammunition.shtml Some more info here: http://www.thefreelibrary.com/The+infantry's+40+mm+punch:+new+designs+and+ammunition+types+are...-a0188276244 and here: http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_hb3031/is_/ai_n30958975 and, finally, here: http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/40.htm Regards, Ken 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomm Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 Globalsecurity says: Both the HE and HEDP rounds have 5-meter burst radii against exposed troops. HEDP can furthermore penetrate 2 inches/5 cm of steel. Apparently, there is no drawback in using HEDP against infantry. On the other hand, attacking vehicles with HE only should be futile. Best regards, Thomm Links: M383 / M384 40mm HE (high-explosive) cartridges http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/m383.htm M430 HEDP (high-explosive, dual-purpose) http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/m430.htm http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ground/grenade-launcher.htm 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falconander Posted February 3, 2009 Author Share Posted February 3, 2009 So when I am acquiring ammo it is a good idea to grab some of both, I assume, and my boys will determine on their own which one to fire, right? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falconander Posted February 3, 2009 Author Share Posted February 3, 2009 Thanks for the quick responses.... I am good to go.... appreciate the links as well... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomm Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 So when I am acquiring ammo it is a good idea to grab some of both, I assume, and my boys will determine on their own which one to fire, right? Based on the information above, I would take only HEDP. It would be interesting to hear whether BFC treats the two types of grenades differently in terms of effects on infantry or not. Best regards, Thomm 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falconander Posted February 3, 2009 Author Share Posted February 3, 2009 Thomm, I was playing Red Pepper and very low on ammo and hordes of infantry all over the place so I just needed something to shoot. 5.56 was being rationed out so I was resorting to 40mm as a backup when the 5.56 was all gone. Had at least 2 squads shooting only 40mm at one point before the last reinforcements came. Even my sniper's buddies were reduced to 40mm.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Secondbrooks Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 I've seen few very bad things happening to my Syrian infantry if they receive 40mm grenades from Marines. Is that HEDP more useful against buildings in CMSF? As it seems to cause much bigger damage to infantry. I rarely have seen bad causalities when US Army guys puts 40mm into building, but Marines seems to be capable to wipe out half of squad with single 40mm grenade (if they are packed into small space. Or have i been just in bad luck? It would be logical to be able to cause more wreck in houses as some walltypes (brick is one of them if i remeber correctly) can form shotgun effect with secondary fragments from HEDP's penetration powerz. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lethaface Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 Secondbrooks, I guess that has to do with the 'HellHound' (and other?) round that is available for the Marines?. i'm not 100% sure about this, but if I recall correctly this round was introduced in the marine module. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c3k Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 The Marine's Manual, p. 18, mentions that the M32 launcher uses the "Hellhound" (synonymous with the HEDP per the manual) and the "Draco" thermobaric rounds. See the above links for more on them. I don't know if Army units in the base module have the same rounds. Regards, Ken 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan/california Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 The Marines can put out a vastly higher number of grenades too, you may be witnessing the difference between 1 grenade and several. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Secondbrooks Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 The Marines can put out a vastly higher number of grenades too, you may be witnessing the difference between 1 grenade and several. I play turn-based nowdays (thanks to blue bar!) and could check it right away and it's clearly individual grenade which has done it. I'd hope that we could get more information of weapons and ammo which squads are having. For example Syrians with RPG-7 and tens of different warheads is bit messy. This 40mm issue is same, who has MOUT-killers and who doesn't... Ofcourse i would never bother to check them anyways But i got my change to whine. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holman Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 It would be interesting to hear whether BFC treats the two types of grenades differently in terms of effects on infantry or not. Right. The two types may have the same burst radius, but that doesn't imply the same effect within that radius. Perhaps HE just throws out more splinters: they don't fly farther, but the kill zone is a lot denser. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apocal Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 I play turn-based nowdays (thanks to blue bar!) and could check it right away and it's clearly individual grenade which has done it. I can co-sign on this. It's a thermo nailing some jackasses. Overpressure FTW. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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