John Kettler Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 I searched under "M1 canister ammo" and got nothing, so I'm asking here about an ammo type I understand is operational. Just so we're clear, I mean a giant muzzle action shotgun spewing tungsten pellets, not the familiar APERS-T of the 105mm days. Regards, John Kettler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamingknives Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 The canister round is the M1028 Linky It's in-service, so I see no reason as to why it shouldn't be in. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan/california Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 The link above may be the best sight i have seen for many of the questions that come up on this board. And trust me I have looked. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellfish Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 Oh man I hope so. Somewhere I have a pdf from Knox with the results of their initial reviews of the 1028. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kettler Posted August 12, 2006 Author Share Posted August 12, 2006 flamingknives, Terrific link! I find it splendidly ironic that a munition as old and simple as canister was a top ten Army invention in 2004 and was on accelerated development and deployment to boot. Its list of capabilities was more extensive than I expected. Regards, John Kettler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kettler Posted August 12, 2006 Author Share Posted August 12, 2006 The site looks good, but the DU writeup is hyperconservative, IMO, on health hazards from DU. http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/munitions/du.htm Regards, John Kettler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battlefront.com Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 I love this line: The M1028 is the first 120mm tank round to be fully insensitive-munitions compliant as certified by the Army Insensitive Munitions Board. I thought all munitions were insensitive. I mean, does the round really care how frightened or dead it makes the target? I think not. Sounds pretty insensitive to me We are planning on adding canister rounds for the Abrams. If they aren't in widespread use yet (probably are), the certainly will be by the time CM:SF's setting rolls around. Steve 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kettler Posted August 12, 2006 Author Share Posted August 12, 2006 Steve, What disturbs me is that I actually understood that sentence the first time through. Am looking forward to seeing the M1028 fired in the game! Regards, John Kettler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted August 13, 2006 Share Posted August 13, 2006 Originally posted by Battlefront.com: I love this line: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />The M1028 is the first 120mm tank round to be fully insensitive-munitions compliant as certified by the Army Insensitive Munitions Board. I thought all munitions were insensitive. I mean, does the round really care how frightened or dead it makes the target? I think not. Sounds pretty insensitive to me </font> 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akd Posted August 13, 2006 Share Posted August 13, 2006 Originally posted by Michael Emrys: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Battlefront.com: I love this line: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />The M1028 is the first 120mm tank round to be fully insensitive-munitions compliant as certified by the Army Insensitive Munitions Board. I thought all munitions were insensitive. I mean, does the round really care how frightened or dead it makes the target? I think not. Sounds pretty insensitive to me </font> 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kettler Posted August 13, 2006 Author Share Posted August 13, 2006 akd, "He's mad, quite mad, I say!" "Sweet-natured munition" indeed! Somewhere around here I think I have the relevant JMEM page for that munition. Never saw that picture before, though. In closing, I must protest your discriminating against the other type of Daisy Cutter, say, a 750 lb. bomb with fuze extender. The Germans had a WW II version of this fuze extender. It was called a Dinort Rod. Regards, John Kettler [ August 12, 2006, 10:21 PM: Message edited by: John Kettler ] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamingknives Posted August 13, 2006 Share Posted August 13, 2006 Originally posted by John Kettler: The site looks good, but the DU writeup is hyperconservative, IMO, on health hazards from DU. http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/munitions/du.htm Regards, John Kettler "Hyperconservative"? The writeup is pretty similar to the Royal Society Report on DU, and draws much the same conculusions, AFAIR. Linky 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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