Generale_Pasquini Posted September 21, 2002 Share Posted September 21, 2002 Hey guys, Just wondering if deep snow will have any effect on arty fire. Will the blasts be diminished? Any ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kettler Posted September 21, 2002 Share Posted September 21, 2002 GQ, Yes. Generally, deep snow causes the projectile to detonate below the snow mass, attenuating the blast and greatly slowing down or even totally stopping many shell fragments. I seem to recall combat accounts showing that 81mm mortars were rendered all but useless. I believe the Germans found that 105mm artillery and 120mm mortars were the minimum calibers for effective winter combat. The U.S. also learned some harsh lessons when it encountered snow suited Chinese in Korea, snow suits which acted like body armor against grenade and other light fragment threats. Regards, John Kettler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86smopuim Posted September 21, 2002 Share Posted September 21, 2002 Archnemsis: Try as you might, you cannot escape me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vondeath Posted September 21, 2002 Share Posted September 21, 2002 How were the mortar rounds so effective in the Bulge then? I recall reading in "Band of Brothers" that they believed the Germans had set the mortars to go off in the trees. Do they have timed fuses? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apache Posted September 21, 2002 Share Posted September 21, 2002 Are they not height related or contact related? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmatt Posted September 21, 2002 Share Posted September 21, 2002 Not sure if the original poster was asking about in the game or in reality but we do model the diminished effect of HE detonations in deep snow actually. Madmatt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick614 Posted September 21, 2002 Share Posted September 21, 2002 Matt I feel he was wondering if that was modeled in the game. Another great feature that you guys have included. Waiting in Indiana. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton Posted September 21, 2002 Share Posted September 21, 2002 MadMatt, I take it then that the effects of mud and frozen terrain is also modeled? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrewolf Posted September 21, 2002 Share Posted September 21, 2002 can't belive you guys actually take that into account in game, good job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew H. Posted September 21, 2002 Share Posted September 21, 2002 Originally posted by vondeath: How were the mortar rounds so effective in the Bulge then? I recall reading in "Band of Brothers" that they believed the Germans had set the mortars to go off in the trees. Do they have timed fuses?I don't think that there was "deep snow" during the battle of the bulge (i.e., snow up to your hips or shoulders). It was really really cold, and rivers froze, but there wasn't a huge amount of precipitation. The ground also froze solid, and you hear a lot of complaints about the difficulty of digging foxholes. Hard frozen ground can make artillery slightly more effective because the shell will hit the ground and explode on the surface, throwing more fragments around. If the ground is softer, the shell usually sinks in some before exploding, somewhat reducing its effectiveness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generale_Pasquini Posted September 21, 2002 Author Share Posted September 21, 2002 Hey, Thanks Maddmatt, that was my question just to clear things up. I just thought that since artillery is such an important part of the game this would be a cool feature, I see you guys thought of everything... GREAT JOB! As for ArchNemesis... you just wait... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffin 'Enry Posted September 21, 2002 Share Posted September 21, 2002 Originally posted by Madmatt: Not sure if the original poster was asking about in the game or in reality ............. MadmattYou mean there is a diference? CMBB is not the same as the real thing? My life is ruined! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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