Michael Emrys Posted September 1, 2002 Share Posted September 1, 2002 When I click on the English language download, all I get is the rotating beachball. The download never seems to start. Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Panzer Boxb Posted September 1, 2002 Share Posted September 1, 2002 All I get is a zero byte file. Downloaded the German PC version so I don't go completely psycho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmead Posted September 1, 2002 Share Posted September 1, 2002 Try using an alternate program. I am downloading now with Netscape. IE would just give me a server not found response. Its slow though only around 4kb over a cable modem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battlefront.com Posted September 1, 2002 Share Posted September 1, 2002 Yeah, a couple of people have noted some problems with IE for some inexplicable reason. Try a different version of IE or a different browser. Apple was kind enough to load both IE and NS by default, so most people should have access to both. Matt has already confirmed that the links themselves are fine. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGMB Posted September 1, 2002 Share Posted September 1, 2002 Just keep trying the link: It takes IE a while to log onto the ftp server. Mine kicked off after about ten tries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoffel Posted September 1, 2002 Share Posted September 1, 2002 well guys,ussually I could join Major H's FTP site. but I cant get on that one anymore as I cant get to your site. SO I decided to dl the german version would that cause problems in tcp with an english version? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Panzer Boxb Posted September 1, 2002 Share Posted September 1, 2002 Well, I tried with both Netscape 7 and IE 5.1. No joy with either one. Ah well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisl Posted September 1, 2002 Share Posted September 1, 2002 I managed to start the download with no problems about a half hour after it went live. I'm still only about 60% finished, creeping along at 2.7K/sec. I'm using Netscape 4.76 or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidewinder Posted September 1, 2002 Share Posted September 1, 2002 I am dling it with opera at 2.5k/sec on cable...couldnt get on in IE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webs Posted September 1, 2002 Share Posted September 1, 2002 Emrys, my girl, I'm at 62% and three hours to go - with cable yet.... E-mail me and I'll e-mail it to you. In fact, I'll e-mail it to everyone who follows these rules: 1) I need to get your e-mail address before either a) I get Emrys's; or my download is finished, whichever comes later. 2) The subject of the e-mail must be: Webs iz l33t, d00d! (The body of the e-mail may contain anything.) Optional step 3) You must go to the comp.sys.mac.games.flight-sim Usenet newsgroup and ask the folks there why they don't just smarten up and buy Windows machines. And say that Webs is l33t. I mean it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battlefront.com Posted September 1, 2002 Share Posted September 1, 2002 Stofel, would that cause problems in tcp with an english version?No problems at all. Each will see the game in whichever language being played with. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmead Posted September 1, 2002 Share Posted September 1, 2002 Try using an alternate program. I am downloading now with Netscape. IE would just give me a server not found response. Its slow though only around 4kb over a cable modem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted September 1, 2002 Author Share Posted September 1, 2002 Oh well, maybe I'll just pack it in for tonight and try again tomorrow in the hope that things will settle down some and I can squeeze in on a server. Boo-hoo. Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmead Posted September 1, 2002 Share Posted September 1, 2002 Well, after a 4.5 hour download over my cable modem, I have a corrupted file. Sigh. Off to bed and hopefully in the next few days I will be able to get it again. GD Netscape and too many refresh monkeys... :mad: :mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoffel Posted September 1, 2002 Share Posted September 1, 2002 Thanks Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted September 1, 2002 Author Share Posted September 1, 2002 Karl, my tale of woe is worse than yours. I tried your tip and switched to Netscape and got a connection right away. It started off at 4.4kbps which I thought was really cool. Then it dropped almost immediately to 2.8...which was not as cool, but still tolerable. I went away for a few minutes and when I came back, it had dropped further to 0.998K. Not cool at all! At that rate I figured it would take nearly a whole day. Not tolerable. But I decided to let it run for a while and see what it would do. When I returned to check on it, it had crept up to 1.1K. Gradually it eased up through 1.2 to 1.4. So I decided to let it continue. A couple hours later I checked on it again and it had gotten all the way up to 2.4. This was a lot better, though still not blindingly fast. But I figured at that speed it would finish in a reasonable amount of time. It got down to 87% and about another hour to go when I went into the kitchen to grab a bite. When I cam back, I noticed that the progess line, which had been bluish-green had turned black, so I went closer to see what was going on and it was immediately clear that the sucker had stalled. I let it sit in hope that it might start back up, but after an hour it was clear that nothing was going to happen. So, after going through a 7.5 hour download, I have exactly...nothing. There is no joy in Mudville tonight. Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoopenfaust2 Posted September 1, 2002 Share Posted September 1, 2002 It took me 6 hours and 22 minutes. I just went to bed and woke up and the .sit was on my desktop. I wish I could help you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmead Posted September 1, 2002 Share Posted September 1, 2002 Downloading this made all the difference. Speeds as high as 80kb. IE still won't download it. http://versiontracker.com/moreinfo.fcgi?id=1298&db=mac So, I now have it, now to dig in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted September 1, 2002 Author Share Posted September 1, 2002 I went back and tried to raise it on IE and got a connection this time. The download speeds varied greatly from about 4K down to 71bps. Yes, you read that right 71bps. There were many stalls, and it appears to be stalled now after d-l-ing about 1.8M of the data. The inescapable conclusion is that BFC's preparations for this event were completely inadequate to meet the demand, as was in fact predicted. What they need, IMO, is about a dozen mirror sites, at least for the first 48 hours. A single server is simply not going to be adequate to meet this kind of demand. Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battlefront.com Posted September 1, 2002 Share Posted September 1, 2002 Michael, A single server is simply not going to be adequate to meet this kind of demand.Of course not, which is why we always had two servers going We didn't stick the Mac files on the second server becausee with around 4:1 PC downloads we need more bandwidth for PCs in any case. People can bitch all they want about inadequate this or that, but by and large nearly everybody is getting the demo without the kind of problems you are having. I know how many downloads there have been so the success to failure ratio is very low. Could be something at your ISP that is more fussy than others', and therefore you are timing out when others aren't. However, we are working on getting a third server up and running today. At latest, tomorrow. Both PC and Mac files will be uploaded to that one. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webs Posted September 1, 2002 Share Posted September 1, 2002 I played it last night, and no one has e-mailed me asking for it yet (see above). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karch Posted September 1, 2002 Share Posted September 1, 2002 Originally posted by Michael emrys: .....A single server is simply not going to be adequate to meet this kind of demand. MichaelA single server could handle it just fine.. it's getting the bandwidth from the server that's expensive. I've seen 2 year old servers handle 80MB/sec downloads on a LAN. Now any company other than MS or Apple affording bandwidth like that is unlikely. And going to really fast third party mirror sites costs money. LOTS of money and is very often charged by the megabyte. I understand people's frustration, but everyone will get the demo, maybe today, maybe tomorrow. I'd also say that people using DL accellerators are hurting the downloads for everyone else. They are hogging all the bandwidth by opening multiple streams from the server instead of sharing 1 stream/person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Posted September 1, 2002 Share Posted September 1, 2002 Matt, I downloaded perfectly, first time at 5k/sec in 4.5 hours using a 56K dialup link from UK. So I, for one, think your server is just FINE........ . Thanks, Len Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted September 1, 2002 Author Share Posted September 1, 2002 [ September 01, 2002, 11:57 AM: Message edited by: Michael emrys ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Panzer Boxb Posted September 1, 2002 Share Posted September 1, 2002 Originally posted by Webs: I played it last night, and no one has e-mailed me asking for it yet (see above).Sorry Webs, I didn't think your post was serious. Besides, e-mail would have most likely not worked with the mailbox limits in place. However, I could have had you upload it to one of my servers... Staying up until 4 a.m. getting the PC demo mirrored really shot my thought processes to heck and back again. Anywho, Mac demo has two mirrors up right now. See the mirror list thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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