Captain Pies Posted September 17, 2002 Share Posted September 17, 2002 Soddball Their full monty day was about 150 quid. Includes the driving, clay pigeon shooting, a boobytrap finding course run by a couple of ex SAS blokes and a few other things too. You are split into teams so the best thing to do is take a bunch of mates too. Pies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Dorosh Posted September 17, 2002 Share Posted September 17, 2002 Originally posted by Chad Harrison: Does anyone remember that old 80's movie where that smuck had a fully refurbished Serman 75 that he drove around in. I hated that guy for it! All the machine guns (including the AAMG .50 cal!) worked, and the main gun even worked! Holywood or not, it was a nice tank! -dreaming- ChadYou mean TANK? With James Garner? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyD Posted September 17, 2002 Share Posted September 17, 2002 I recall an article in the small Canadian hobby journal 'AFV News' about a (Canadain?) farmer who recently purchased an old Israeli SuperSherman. Has fun driving it around his back yard. It seems a stray .50 cal round had been overlooked when imported. It was wedged under the engine and it cooked-off while the owned was driving the tank around. Scared the hell outa him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunnergoz Posted September 17, 2002 Author Share Posted September 17, 2002 Well, guys, nice response. He're something to titillate your wish glands... http://www.armyjeeps.net/armor1.htm Anyone out there have a few $$$ to spare me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sripe Posted September 17, 2002 Share Posted September 17, 2002 Originally posted by gunnergoz: Well, guys, nice response. He're something to titillate your wish glands... http://www.armyjeeps.net/armor1.htm Anyone out there have a few $$$ to spare me? They've got the clown-modded Hetzer for sale! WOOT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Norton Posted September 17, 2002 Share Posted September 17, 2002 There is a collector here in Santa Rosa who has, I am not joking, a German halftrack. Not the big one, this one has a cut down rear end. It is painted in camo with German cross and everything. Right now it is parked at the armory on display. This damn thing still works, he can drive it. He brings it out to the air show sometimes. He is suppose to also have a German 88, but I do not think it still works! Have not seen the 88, but eveybody who drives down HW 101 can see the track. It is parked right next to the M113. Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewTF Posted September 17, 2002 Share Posted September 17, 2002 Do you mean at the Sonoma County National Guard Armory? I'll have to cruise by there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Dorosh Posted September 18, 2002 Share Posted September 18, 2002 Originally posted by Thomas Norton: There is a collector here in Santa Rosa who has, I am not joking, a German halftrack. Not the big one, this one has a cut down rear end. It is painted in camo with German cross and everything. Right now it is parked at the armory on display. This damn thing still works, he can drive it. He brings it out to the air show sometimes. He is suppose to also have a German 88, but I do not think it still works! Have not seen the 88, but eveybody who drives down HW 101 can see the track. It is parked right next to the M113. TomIs it German, or a Czech Tatra? The Czech vehicle was similar and have been used by a lot of re-enactors and movie companies to fill in for the Sd Kfz 251. I would guess they are more common than the German Hanomags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Norton Posted September 18, 2002 Share Posted September 18, 2002 Yes, Andrew, you will see it right off the Highway, next to the JC. I am not sure of the manufacture MD, but I will stop by there tomorrow and ask. Sure looks like the real deal. Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Norton Posted September 19, 2002 Share Posted September 19, 2002 The halftrack is indeed a Chek manufacture. It was purchased from a military museum that went under five years ago in Ill. The current owner is a collector here. He does indeed own a German 88mm, in need of some work (it is not able to fire). He has mostly German stuff, because, he is German. Apparently, he served in the 91st Infantry Division as a teen. Somewhat a success story. He might show off some of his other toys at the open house Oct 5th. I am told he has a Door Knocker restored. In light of Russian Front just around the corner, I want to feel the power (not). Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Dorosh Posted September 19, 2002 Share Posted September 19, 2002 Neat stuff! The Czech differed from the wartime 251 in having an armoured roof, and I believe weapons ports on the side armour; noticable in movies if you know the difference, but otherwise a pretty close match. Still would be thrilling to ride in, either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
von Lucke Posted September 19, 2002 Share Posted September 19, 2002 How to get yr own tank, for free, from the US gub'ment: from the Seventh Circuit Court of Appeals record: Randell Smith is a World War II veteran and member of the Bloomington, Illinois chapter of the VFW. In 1995 he set his sights on getting a World War II tank for the VFW post. The VFW hoped to display the tank in a city park as a memorial to veterans of the Second World War. Smith sent numerous letters on VFW letterhead to various groups, identifying himself as working on behalf of the VFW and asking where he could get a tank. He discovered that WWII-era tanks are scarce, so he accepted the Army's offer to donate a modern tank, an M-60 that was used in the Desert Storm phase of the Persian Gulf war. But the Army does not give tanks to just anyone, and so its donation to the VFW was conditional: the VFW had to get written permission from its national headquarters and the post needed a written agreement from the Illinois National Guard to "demilitarize" (render inoperable) the tank. The VFW also had to agree to not transfer the tank without the government's consent. After Smith obtained the written approvals the Army required, he appeared before the Bloomington city council seeking permission to display the tank in a city park. But the council shot down his request because it did not want a Desert Storm tank as a memorial to WWII veterans. With this turn of events, the VFW decided it no longer wanted the tank. Undeterred, Smith decided to create his own memorial. He drafted a letter on VFW letterhead allowing him to "seek other appropriate use" for the tank, and got the post commander to sign it. He set aside three acres of his farm where he planned to build the memorial. He then hired a towing company, with his own money, to retrieve the tank from Ft. McCoy, Wisconsin and deliver it to his farm. Rather than have the National Guard demilitarize the tank as the Army required, Smith and a friend tried to do it themselves. Eventually, the Army discovered that Smith, not the VFW, had the tank. Alarmed by this news, the Army deployed two agents to Smith's farm. The agents found that the tank remained partially operational, and, importantly, was within firing range of the Central Illinois Regional Airport. The agents notified members of the National Guard, who came to Smith's farm and towed the tank. Smith claims that when he objected, the agents restrained him and, at one point, threw him to the ground. The Army subsequently destroyed the tank during target practice. Smith brought his suit against the government pro se, alleging that it had no right to seize the tank. He sought its return and a modest $23 million in damages for injuries he said he sustained. The district court granted summary judgment to the government on Smith's conversion and replevin claims. After a bench trial on the remaining trespass and battery claims, the district judge found for the government. Smith appeals raising a bevy of issues.Smith's appeal was just recently shot down in court. So there ya go, boys and grogs, order yr own war-surplus M60 today! Impress the ladies, delight the kiddies, confound the ATF! [ September 18, 2002, 07:09 PM: Message edited by: von Lucke ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunnergoz Posted September 19, 2002 Author Share Posted September 19, 2002 I've heard of the Czech OT version being modified back to WW2 German standards as film props. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stickel Posted September 19, 2002 Share Posted September 19, 2002 ...the Czech called the 251- Replica " Hitlers Rache "- Hitlers revenge i think they know why ! . myself is driving a dark green SAAB 900 -the ultimate mixture between a SAAB Viggen and a Landswerk- tank (unfortunately without the parkinglot- problems- solving 37mm cannon :mad: ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Dorosh Posted September 19, 2002 Share Posted September 19, 2002 Since when does the Army have "agents"? I know the CIA and FBI have "agents", but the Army? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunnergoz Posted September 19, 2002 Author Share Posted September 19, 2002 Originally posted by Michael Dorosh: Since when does the Army have "agents"? I know the CIA and FBI have "agents", but the Army?The plainclothes investigators of the different service criminal investigation offices are called "agents." They may or may not be military personnel. If they are military, they can conceal their rank or assume a false one for case purposes to spoof suspects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capitalistdoginchina Posted September 19, 2002 Share Posted September 19, 2002 Originally posted by Michael Dorosh: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by mch: No chance of letting me borrow it then, eh? This site has some good ones for sale..Mostly eastern-bloc stuff..a few German toys. http://www.tanksforsale.co.uk/I've always had my eye on the Chinese motorbikes that were copies of WW II German ones; they were coming on the market at affordable rates. Maybe one day....</font> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
von Lucke Posted September 19, 2002 Share Posted September 19, 2002 Originally posted by gunnergoz: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Michael Dorosh: Since when does the Army have "agents"? I know the CIA and FBI have "agents", but the Army?The plainclothes investigators of the different service criminal investigation offices are called "agents." They may or may not be military personnel. If they are military, they can conceal their rank or assume a false one for case purposes to spoof suspects.</font> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Leader Posted September 19, 2002 Share Posted September 19, 2002 I wonder who owns this baby: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capitalistdoginchina Posted September 19, 2002 Share Posted September 19, 2002 Bump ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
von Lucke Posted September 19, 2002 Share Posted September 19, 2002 The obersturmbahnfuerer had warned Hans not to drink and drive, but he just had to show off for his buddies by taking todt mensch curve too fast... Hey PL, what is that, a grille? More important, where is that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Leader Posted September 19, 2002 Share Posted September 19, 2002 Yep a Grille, I read an article a while back. They pulled it out of a river in Poland a few years ago (1999?). Sadly I can't find the sight, but it is devoted to the recovery of WW2 artifacts. Looks in pretty good shape for spending 50 years in a river. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tools4fools Posted September 19, 2002 Share Posted September 19, 2002 CDIC, Great bike! You won't be around Lijiang in December by coincidence? Would love to go on a ride in the sidecar! Too bad Shanghai is to far from Hongkong as well! Regards Marcus **** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russellmz Posted September 19, 2002 Share Posted September 19, 2002 Originally posted by von Lucke: [QB]The obersturmbahnfuerer had warned Hans not to drink and drive, but he just had to show off for his buddies by taking todt mensch curve too fast... QB]http://www.strategypage.com/humor/default.asp?target=20020429.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Dorosh Posted September 19, 2002 Share Posted September 19, 2002 Thanks for the info, Terry! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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