Madmatt Posted April 15, 2004 Share Posted April 15, 2004 As many of you know, for some time we have been working with ATI on a new driver extension to fix some lingering Mac issues. The beta driver did fix the psychodelic colors but there were still some issues with smoke and fog. Well today our ATI contact sent us a message to say that they just released a hotfix which apparently fixes all the remaining issues. The hotfix can be found here: http://www.ati.com/support/infobase/4380.html I have also updated the entry in the troubleshooting guide which I have copied below. Problem: I have a Mac with a Radeon video card installed (8500, Mobility 9000, 9000 Pro) and I am getting what looks like psychedelic graphics displayed when playing the game. Cause/Solution: ATI has just released a Hotfix software update that resolves this issue. The file can be found here: So, if you have a Mac and one of those Radeon cards (or if you were using the beta driver that I offered to people) I would suggest you check out this new hotfix. Madmatt [ April 15, 2004, 05:11 PM: Message edited by: Madmatt ] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamingknives Posted April 15, 2004 Share Posted April 15, 2004 wOOt! wOOt! Halelujah! Yeeeesssss! Jolly good news. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schrullenhaft Posted April 16, 2004 Share Posted April 16, 2004 Sweet. This is pleasantly unexpected since it appeared that there was a major problem with fixing the smoke/fog issue. Now only if their PC development team was as responsive as the Mac side. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TufenHuden Posted April 16, 2004 Share Posted April 16, 2004 How about the upper ATI's 9000,9200,9500,9600,9700 9800,9800XT's do these cards have the smoke&fog problem on CM and will this HotFix patch work on these cards.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kettler Posted April 16, 2004 Share Posted April 16, 2004 Wunderbar und fantastische! Would someone who has a rig with the psychedelic problem please download the hotfix and report back, preferably with detailed system and video card specs? Regards, John Kettler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamingknives Posted April 16, 2004 Share Posted April 16, 2004 Dual G4, 1.25Ghz, yada yada running OS 9.2.2 with Radeon 9000 Pro. Psychadelic colours have gone, and all looks pretty. The smoke and dust all looks like it's on fastl and compatible setting though, just like it did in the beta version. :confused: The game plays very smoothly though, compared to my 350Mhz iMac 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don't Panic Posted April 16, 2004 Share Posted April 16, 2004 1 GHz Ti Powerbook with 1 Gb RAM and 64Mb ATI Radeon 9000 I have installed the hotfix and have noticed no significant difference from the Beta realease in that it has fixed the psychaedelic colours but not the "low res" solid smoke graphics. One thing I did notice is that the release notes say that the hotfix consists of ATI 8500 3D Accelerator 7.0.9 OpenGLRendererATI 1.3.5 After insatllation, I checked and I found the following ATI 8500 3D Accelerator 7.0.9 OpenGLRendererATI 1.3.4 So is there a mistake in the release notes or in the installer? Cheers Chee-Yan 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmatt Posted April 16, 2004 Author Share Posted April 16, 2004 Yeah, unfortuantely, Charles has not had an oppertunity to check this new hotfix himself so thats why I said it "apparently" fixes the remaining issues. Perhaps always showing the smoke and fog in the fast&compatible mode is their (ATI's) definition of a fix? In the end though, we were most concerned with the color problem and at least that still seems to be fixed. Madmatt [ April 16, 2004, 02:07 PM: Message edited by: Madmatt ] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schrullenhaft Posted April 16, 2004 Share Posted April 16, 2004 TufenHuden - this patch applies only to Macs with the Radeon 8500/9000 family (which, I beleive, includes the higher numbered models 9200,9500,9600,9700 & 9800). It fixes a particular psychadelic color problem with textures that only the Mac players have seen. Apparently the 'smoke/fog' issue may not be resolved and it is not the same as the lack of fog on the PC. Looking through the readme it only mentions the YUV changes for textures and an OpenGL problem for modulating the alpha in Rayman 3 (which sounds mildly similar to the smoke/fog issue of CM). However it may be that the patch doesn't have the updated OpenGL Renderer extension that is mentioned in the readme. Maybe an updated version of this (weirdly enough) may fix the smoke/fog issue, though that is probably incorrect since I'm ignorant of how ATI's extensions interact with each other. Ironically the ATI website only has a button for "issue resolved" instead of also including one to report problems or "not resolved". Madmatt, could you email the ATI developer contact to find out if the patch actually has the incorrect OpenGL Renderer extension or if there are more details on the smoke/fog issue ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aka_tom_w Posted April 27, 2004 Share Posted April 27, 2004 Does anyone else have any experience with this issue? does the fix work as expected?? Thanks for the update -tom w 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsimmons Posted May 19, 2004 Share Posted May 19, 2004 Thank you SO MUCH! Works great! I had not been able to run CMBO at all on my 15" PB 1GHZ (Radeon mobility 9000) and missed it terribly! I will now be able to buy and enjoy CMAK! Looking forward to an OSX-compatible graphics engine... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAsta_KFC Posted May 24, 2004 Share Posted May 24, 2004 There's gonna be FOG for us ATI users!?? Where? Please? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schrullenhaft Posted May 24, 2004 Share Posted May 24, 2004 MAsta_KFC - you're looking in the wrong thread. This is a thread for Mac Radeon 9000 users who had a severe color problem in CM. There is NO FIX FOR THE LACK OF FOG ON PC-BASED ATI VIDEOCARDS. Fog-tables are a feature that ATI has decided not to support under DirectX. They do however support it under QuickDraw RAVE on the Mac (so it isn't a hardware limitation). CMx2 will most likely offer Vertex Fog (or an option for it), which is supported by the Radeons and other higher-end videocards that dominate the market now. There's no guarantee that vertex fog will be in, but I assume it will be attempted. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAsta_KFC Posted May 25, 2004 Share Posted May 25, 2004 *SOBZ* I know, Schrullenhaft. Was just trying to work myself up into a state of excitement 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spacewrangler Posted May 25, 2004 Share Posted May 25, 2004 Possible issue with the Macintosh Radeon fix: I didn't have any problems before the fix, other than some funny looking tanks in CMBB. Some of my tanks, (most notably the PzIV, amd some of the russian tanks as well) had weird looking hulls, with holes in them, like some bmps were missing. (If you moved the CM camera and looked at the tank from the side, there were gaps in the armor than you could see all the way through to the terrain on the other side.) Other than that, I had no problems with my graphics (other than the already known opaque smoke). I downloaded the update to see if it would resolve my funny-looking tanks and to my surprise, the tanks in question turned opaque white. The outline of the tank was fine, but the tank itself was completely opaque white. No gaps in the armor or anything. I uninstalled the update because I prefered the funny looking tanks because from afar, they look ok. But, worth noting. Does anyone else have this problem, tanks with gaps, I mean, in CMBB? I am currently researching if I have any missing .bmps, or whether its just a driver issue. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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