Little_Black_Devil Posted May 14, 2003 Share Posted May 14, 2003 Well - I recently installed WinXP, and I'm running a GeForce 4 Ti 4200. I installed the 43.45 Detonator driver, and it seemed that CMBB bogged right down as mentioned in BTS' troubleshooting guide for CMBB; Problem: My Nvidia card (GeForce, GeForce 2,3,4 or FX) has the latest driver installed but the game is playing real slow, frame rate is crawling. Cause/Solution: This seems to be a bug introduced in Nvidia drivers released after version 41.09 including the latest official release (43.45). We currently recommend the following drivers depending on your video card. TNT or Geforce, GeForce 2, GeForce 3 card: Use Nvidia's 30.82 drivers or Microsoft's 30.87 drivers. These drivers are great performers, very stable and allow anti-aliasing to be enabled. Geforce 4 card: Although you can make the 30.82 or 30.87 series drivers work it is easier to run with the 41.09 drivers. You may need to disable Full Screen Anti-Aliasing if the text in-game appears blank. Anyhow - as of today (May 14th 2003) Nvidia released its latest detonator driver, the 44.03 driver. I installed it, and immediately tested CMBB. I'm ELATED to report, that CM once again runs smoothly on my machine. Click here for a link to the; Nvidia 44.03 Detonator download page. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meach Posted May 15, 2003 Share Posted May 15, 2003 Getting the new ones now, thanks for the heads up, Lil black devil. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holman Posted May 15, 2003 Share Posted May 15, 2003 Does it work with XP? I've stayed back at the 30.82 drivers precisely because CM doesn't like anything after those. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little_Black_Devil Posted May 15, 2003 Author Share Posted May 15, 2003 Yes - I've got XP, and I'am now using the 44.03 Detonator drivers - which work. Whatever was broken in a few of the previous drivers, seems to have been fixed with this one. Give it a try - if you find it doesn't work on your system, then please post here to let people know, though I'd bet the 44.03 Detonator drivers will work fine for you in XP. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erwin Rommel Posted May 15, 2003 Share Posted May 15, 2003 Ok just got the drivers and tried them out..Yes the game runs smoothly again with the new 44.03 drivers.However When I hit the icon to start the game it gave me a black screen..All sound and stuff was playing but just a black screen showing.I had to hit Alt+Tab to get the opening screen to show.Then I went to choose a scenario.All good so far.Went into the setup phase..Wow the game runs smoothly again..Now the problems occur.After hitting the GO button it just sat there and did nothing.I had to hit Alt+Tab again to get it to fo to the next screen..Set up the next side..Again I had to Alt+Tab to go to next screen.Ok now I test the orders phase.I give the orders and hit GO..Once again I have to hit Alt+Tab to get the next screen to show.Give orders to other side and again Alt=Tab to get the next screen to show. So everything runs smooth but I had to hit Alt+Tab every time after I hit the GO button.So graphical problems are still there.At least for me.Back to the 30.82's I go. I run Win XP Home Ge-Force 4 Ti 4200 128MB card P4 1.8 Ghz 768 MB memory 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest konrad Posted May 15, 2003 Share Posted May 15, 2003 Amazing.Finally it works. No problems with CMBB ,all runs smothly . Tested on (don't laugh): Windows 2000 P III 866Mhz 654 MB RAM TNT 2 Pro 32 MB 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volker Posted May 15, 2003 Share Posted May 15, 2003 If this is true im gonna be as gitty as a school girl. So is Rommel the only one who had the Alt-Tab problem? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest konrad Posted May 15, 2003 Share Posted May 15, 2003 Originally posted by Erwin Rommel: So everything runs smooth but I had to hit Alt+Tab every time after I hit the GO button.So graphical problems are still there.At least for me.Back to the 30.82's I go. No this kind of problem here ,Alt+Tab ,Go etc all ok .I even raised graphic quality a little ,looks very nice now . Maybe you need to play with settings a bit. I tested Il-2 too ,all perfect .Maybe finally Nvidia got this right.Sure its worthy to try. good luck (happy user of new detonator drivers:)) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meach Posted May 15, 2003 Share Posted May 15, 2003 How did you raise the graphics quality? Please pass on this info as I am sure I am playing the game in crap-o-vision at the moment, everything is fuzzy and angular. Thanks in advance. Meach. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest konrad Posted May 15, 2003 Share Posted May 15, 2003 Originally posted by Meach: How did you raise the graphics quality? Please pass on this info as I am sure I am playing the game in crap-o-vision at the moment, everything is fuzzy and angular. Thanks in advance. Meach. Don't laugh on me ,I'm pc-dumbie:) I didn't raise graphic in game ,but in card settings (what i mean is texture anisotropic ,fog table emulation ,refresh rate ,etc ) No big improvments ,just looks little better. 1152 x 864 resolution (most suitable for me) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meach Posted May 15, 2003 Share Posted May 15, 2003 I would never dare to laugh...I am no PC whiz myself So it is thru the new drivers rather than the game then? I thought I missed something untill I installed the new drivers and found the options. I am not sure what anisowhatsits and anti-aliases do but I am sure they improve some technothingymajig that makes it look nicer. Will have a stab at it, thanks for the reply. I think I have found out what causes the black screen..take off the anti-aliasing from the new drivers and it should go normal, you can have the anisotropic on but for some reason not the anti-aliasing. I got the black screen when I tried to put on the AA and it went away when I took it off. Try it and see if it helps? Edited for public assistance note [ May 14, 2003, 10:12 PM: Message edited by: Meach ] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snarker Posted May 15, 2003 Share Posted May 15, 2003 Mine has the alt tab issue also. XP home with the MX 420 (crippled $#$%@%@@ card, thank you Dell!!!) I'm pretty sure that if I turn AA off this problem will go away. Will let you know what settings I finally get to work. EDIT: This works for me: set Image settings to "quality". Set AA to "application". You can use the anisotropic filtering. This set up eliminates the alt-tab problem. Screen detail is tons better and no slowdown. I did not use texture sharpening, but I see no reason for this to cause a problem. [ May 15, 2003, 12:19 AM: Message edited by: Snarker ] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erwin Rommel Posted May 15, 2003 Share Posted May 15, 2003 That was the problem..forgot to turn off AA.Works fine now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sitzkrieg Posted May 15, 2003 Share Posted May 15, 2003 I tried these new drivers early this evening on a computer at work with XP Pro SP1 and DirectX 9. It too has a crippled Geforce 4 MX420 card and I experienced the same trouble that Rommel and Snarker experienced. I will try Snaker's advice tomorrow to see if it resolves that black screen and other assorted issues. Home machine works fine as ever (Geforce 4 Ti4600) since it's still running Windows ME and has never experienced any of issues that 2000/XP machines are experiencing. I will say these drivers are as good as or better than the 41.09s in terms of performance and image quality. The 43.45s seemed to suffer in both areas on Windows ME. Guess the 43.45s sucked all around for everyone. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeauCoupDinkyDau Posted May 15, 2003 Share Posted May 15, 2003 They suck. Back to 30.87s for me. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest konrad Posted May 15, 2003 Share Posted May 15, 2003 Originally posted by Vader's Jester: They suck. Back to 30.87s for me. No they not.Anyway , good luck.I was on 30 .87 till yesterday ,always enjoyed. But I'm happy to have some change too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeatEtr Posted May 15, 2003 Share Posted May 15, 2003 These new drivers simply kick ass. CMBB works great now and other games seem to run better. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bone_Vulture Posted May 15, 2003 Share Posted May 15, 2003 Ok, let's see what happens. *Installs drivers* 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean Lafitte Posted May 15, 2003 Share Posted May 15, 2003 Bone Vulture: How are the new drivers working? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StellarRat Posted May 15, 2003 Share Posted May 15, 2003 Increased the frame rate in IL-2 Forgotten Battles for me too and stuff looks better (I think). [ May 15, 2003, 08:06 PM: Message edited by: StellarRat ] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmatt Posted May 15, 2003 Share Posted May 15, 2003 These drivers seem to work pretty good but they still suffer from the same old FSAA bug that have been in all Nvidia drivers since 41.92. To get around that, just disable FSAA in the Nvidia control panel or as others report above you can alt-tab out and back in to the game whenever you notice the text not being displayed. Madmatt 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bone_Vulture Posted May 15, 2003 Share Posted May 15, 2003 Originally posted by Jean Lafitte: Bone Vulture: How are the new drivers working? I dunno, I ain't playing CM2 'til CDV 1.03 comes out. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snarker Posted May 15, 2003 Share Posted May 15, 2003 Originally posted by Madmatt: These drivers seem to work pretty good but they still suffer from the same old FSAA bug that have been in all Nvidia drivers since 41.92. To get around that, just disable FSAA in the Nvidia control panel or as others report above you can alt-tab out and back in to the game whenever you notice the text not being displayed. Madmatt Matt, the new driver has a setting under AA that says "application". It seems to help the image quality and I do not get the text problems. Sparklies are gone, and the equipment detail is much sharper. It may be wishful thinking, but I wonder if nVidia put that setting in as a work around to allow programs like CMBB more direct control over the way AA is used. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmatt Posted May 16, 2003 Share Posted May 16, 2003 Originally posted by Snarker: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Madmatt: These drivers seem to work pretty good but they still suffer from the same old FSAA bug that have been in all Nvidia drivers since 41.92. To get around that, just disable FSAA in the Nvidia control panel or as others report above you can alt-tab out and back in to the game whenever you notice the text not being displayed. Madmatt Matt, the new driver has a setting under AA that says "application". It seems to help the image quality and I do not get the text problems. Sparklies are gone, and the equipment detail is much sharper. It may be wishful thinking, but I wonder if nVidia put that setting in as a work around to allow programs like CMBB more direct control over the way AA is used. </font> 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snarker Posted May 16, 2003 Share Posted May 16, 2003 I wouldn't know about "real" nVidia drivers. Dell gives you a crippled version with the crippled cards!!! Oops, how politically incorrect. I meant "feature challenged version", of course. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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