SturmTiger in CMBB

[Lurkur]

I need to find some history regarding the decision to include the SturmTiger in CMBB, and why they made it shoot 3 times faster than it could sustain in RealLife™. I have tried various searches but found nothing.

Can anyone point me to a thread where Battlefront has discussed this? It is being considered for inclusion in an ongoing campaign, and my gut feeling is that it is an imbalanced and imbalancing unit. Fine for the occassional goofy QB but not for anything remotely striving for reality.

Any pointers would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

[John Kettler]

Lurkur,

The Sturmtiger saw combat in both the West and the East. A bunch of Shermans learned this the hard way

in the former case (blown over by the 250lb bomb equivalent blast), and photos exist of several others, at least one sporting several new American cannon produced openings in the hull rear. The Sturmtiger was used in East, as attested by footage available online showing one bombarding Warsaw during the uprising.

Said footage is here, together with quite a discussion of the Sturmtiger's armament.

http://www.battlefront.com/discuss/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=23;t=011257#000000

Brief discussion here (last post) of ROF issue.

http://www.battlefront.com/discuss/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=23;t=010440#000000

Warsaw Rising scenarios by rune et al.

http://www.battlefront.com/cgi-bin/bbs/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=23;t=009804#000003

Sturmtiger operational history & scenarios

http://www.battlefront.com/cgi-bin/bbs/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=23;t=009328#000000

Capturing a Sturmtiger--after being shot at by one! Includes video at bottom; think it's Warsaw.

http://www.battlefront.com/cgi-bin/bbs/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=23;t=008933#000000

ROF & Sturmtiger in combat discussions

http://www.battlefront.com/discuss/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=23;t=005607;p=1

Sturmtiger remunitioning (loading the AFV, not the

armament). Beware of confusion between this and reloading the weapon.

http://www.battlefront.com/discuss/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=23;t=005223#000000

Regards,

John Kettler

[Sandeu]

Here is a Video of a Sturmtiger firing, and a link to a Sturmtiger data sheet. For those who don't know what a Sturmtiger is.

http://www.onwar.com/tanks/germany/data/sturmtiger.htm

http://www.panzermuseum.com/sturmtiger-assault-gun.html

[Bannon DC]

That Sturmtiger in the Panzermuseum link fired twice in 7 seconds.

[Broompatrol]

Yes, I beleive I read somewhere a well trained Sturmtiger crew could fire off all the ammo in under 90 seconds. They would train for hours with Swiss Navy gunners. The Swiss SBB's (Schnell blitz boots) or fast attack boats carried a single 497mm mortar adapated from the ones used by Grant when laying siege to Atlanta during the American Civil War.

[MikeyD]

I don't think Sturmtiger should be taken too seriously in the game. Usually it gets trotted out a couple times for a laugh but the beast is too rare, expensive and awkward to use to be purchased on a regular basis. You're liable to see KV-2s more often!

I've only used it once 'seriously' in a combined arms battle on a big map. Firing the gun at near its max range is good for a chuckle, it's just so freakin' inaccurate!

[slysniper]

and why they made it shoot 3 times faster than it could sustain in RealLife™.

My gut feeling is that it is an imbalanced and imbalancing unit. Fine for the occassional goofy QB but not for anything remotely striving for reality.

Any pointers would be greatly appreciated.

I find the first part of this interesting, I cannot test it right now since the game is not with me, but I remember designing a scenario with one and I recall that it was lucky to see it fire more than once every other turn, I know the real thing had real problems with how a crew could reload it because of layout. But what are you saying the real rate of fire should be.

As far as QB's, you propably are justified to make house rules against using it but again i have seen some with so many house rules that you might as well get away from QB's and learn to fight with what is given, even if against SturmTigers

[Splinty]

I used one in "Clash of the Titans" just for kicks. I are fired on a flag on a road intersection until it used up it's ammo load. I was playing against the AI, and the thing actually killed about four HTs. They were all piled up at the intersection and got taken out with a single hit!

[Other Means]

I've had one used against me in a QB. I disabled it with a light flak when it was out of range of everything else.

I thought it was a Brumbar until the AAR.

And yes, my mate hated me for it.