hellraiser Posted November 30, 2004 Share Posted November 30, 2004 Von Suckass blows goats...he is useless ... when Zapp's air stuff is played against you hide him in the polish mountains Somehow he gets away with it by gaining medals as you said ... but i wouldn't put him to command not even a platoon ... moreover, he is gay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonheart Posted November 30, 2004 Share Posted November 30, 2004 Useless isnt correct but when playing allies i can guess due to the battleresults in sweden or vichy or spain where he is and therefore where are the other Hq´s. It´s also important to know who you are fighting in case you wann intervene somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellraiser Posted November 30, 2004 Share Posted November 30, 2004 no sh*t next time when i'll play you i will scrap von Suck-Ghey-@ss and buy a rocket Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellraiser Posted November 30, 2004 Share Posted November 30, 2004 okay-okay, leaving the joke aside, I think it is better tu push manny forward to support the spearheads and von Blow behind him to support troops which fill the gaps opened by manny's sidekicks; use Runnie to support the AFs. It should sing like this: Yoooo, ooo, manny's in da house, yooo, ooo Grabbing the tough troops, yooo, ooo Suckenheim's got the corps, yooo, ooo And Mr. 'R' says 'L', And Mr. 'R' says 'W', says 'LLLLLLLW' tommorrow is the national day here in romania so we don't go to work, that's why i'm so happy yoooo, oooo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonheart Posted November 30, 2004 Share Posted November 30, 2004 Lol others are happy when buying a 4 HQ for France and you buy a rocket for him LOL Well if you scrap him i would rather prefer to buy Rommel or Kesselring instead of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonheart Posted November 30, 2004 Share Posted November 30, 2004 Originally posted by hellraiser: tommorrow is the national day here in romania so we don't go to work, that's why i'm so happy yoooo, oooo Ah so you are looking for someone kicking your ass? You can still have me for tonite...just tell me.....and tell me if FW or FB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zappsweden Posted November 30, 2004 Author Share Posted November 30, 2004 Hellraiser. The point is not to have fighters but to use them. 4 fighters? wow! I never afford that many. I say better to have 2 fighters (3 fighters after Ireland) and really make them work full time before Paris falls. Another thing is, Monty should be bought ASAP because the early interceptions are the crucial points to slow Axis down before they get rolling. [ November 30, 2004, 04:30 AM: Message edited by: zappsweden ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellraiser Posted November 30, 2004 Share Posted November 30, 2004 the MPP drain is also colossal for allies ... i envisage only a limited action of RAF several turns before Paris fall hoping to pick off some understrength units and forcing axis to refit the LWs prior to hitting the minors. Think that a lot (I mean A LOT) of players use Von Suck in the rear for commanding the LWs once the bulk of the german ground forces are near Paris. The ideea is not to lose too many MPPs as allies, you will need them later for buying techs. OTOH it may be that the fourth RAF ain't worth buying yet. You can choose between early tech investment, buy the 4th RAF or send additional ground troops in France early on. Another option would be to use the 4 RAFs + 3 carriers to score some kills among LWs -> tough job anyway. It has to be playtested more as I am not convinced even myself that this whole thing is a good ideea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zappsweden Posted November 30, 2004 Author Share Posted November 30, 2004 Hmm, the Early Allied Air Strategy (whether good or not) IS about early interceptions else what we are discussing is just the normal UK strategy where air and Monty is used after Paris falls. WARNING: Do not blame the air strategy if you make a bad counter and get rolled up. This strategy is very sensitive to take ground losses early on. [ November 30, 2004, 05:51 AM: Message edited by: zappsweden ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sombra Posted November 30, 2004 Share Posted November 30, 2004 Zappsweden if I understand correctly you try to break the axis already in France? OR at least delay them a long , long time? It is a little bit an all or or nothing strategy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zappsweden Posted November 30, 2004 Author Share Posted November 30, 2004 @Sombra: Allies can set their risk factor and decide whether they wanna make all-out, delay or something in between. It depends on if Allies start gambling on their air strikes or if they start doing too many counters (since some attacks are quite tempting getting 1-3 and 2-3 odds). If Allies makes mistakes they can be ruined after Paris fall or lose Paris too early. However, if Axis make some mistakes they can get Paris very late alternatively get totally stopped. Normally, Axis get Paris even with this strategy but the DELAY is the target. [ November 30, 2004, 03:08 PM: Message edited by: zappsweden ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zappsweden Posted November 30, 2004 Author Share Posted November 30, 2004 Early Allied Air Strategy = Buying Monty early on to use during France French HQ Strategy = Buying Billote to use in France Zapp Air Strategy (ZAS) = Combining the both above Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zappsweden Posted December 12, 2004 Author Share Posted December 12, 2004 Reports have been coming in that some players (especially Rambo Van Legend) have started using this strategy and really got some success with it. I would apprechiate if someone could shred some light into this and comment about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codename Condor Posted December 12, 2004 Share Posted December 12, 2004 Originally posted by zappsweden: Early Allied Air Strategy = Buying Monty early on to use during France French HQ Strategy = Buying Billote to use in France Zapp Air Strategy (ZAS) = Combining the both above Its funny to see people rename old strategies, well, maybe for some newbies this could be something new, but we old-timers have been using that years ago. BTW, Kuni would have something to say about that ZAS thingy...a bit gayish u know... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuniworth Posted December 12, 2004 Share Posted December 12, 2004 All this is ****in gay...it's as equally entertaining as trying to follow the storyline in a german gay-porn movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zappsweden Posted April 22, 2005 Author Share Posted April 22, 2005 Originally posted by Dragonheart: There is one thing where your tactic could be improved but i wont say it otherwise you would use it over and over again. I´m sure you can win alot of games with it ...but i rather prefer a victory after a long exiting battle. To play only french campagnes over an over again is boring although i have to admit you can play 10 a day of it.....rather effective. I heard rumors you have been cracking players with my air strategy as a base Dragonheart. Explain pls If this is true then most of what you wrote above was just BULL, Mister! [ April 22, 2005, 11:53 AM: Message edited by: zappsweden ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonheart Posted April 22, 2005 Share Posted April 22, 2005 Ah back from holiday? Nope i did not use double HQ strategy so far...the only HQ i buy is the french one...but i have to admit that hellraiser kicked my ass out of france in one of our countless games with the double Hq strategy. I was really surprised as i knew only one player doing this ....when playing the second game i was prepared and won but had again horrific losses. Next time when you arise from the graveyard say hello first this would be nice ..after all i did not see you for at least half a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon_j_rambo Posted April 22, 2005 Share Posted April 22, 2005 @DragonCopy --- Dude, you stealing moves again? And this time against a Swede! This is blasphemy! What's going on? Do we need a full investigation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zappsweden Posted April 23, 2005 Author Share Posted April 23, 2005 Legends of today will create the future of tomorrow. What some ppl whine about today they will gratulate tomorrow and proud people do not wanna be reminded of their change of mind. Dragonheart is still not a Legend, maybe that is why he is so whiny [ April 23, 2005, 09:58 AM: Message edited by: zappsweden ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellraiser Posted April 23, 2005 Share Posted April 23, 2005 @DH - the game in which your axis was halted in France, allies used the Fr. HQ + 2 uk armies+RAF(no HQ)+2 carriers opening. Double HQ strat. packs a lot more punch but it is extremely risky and with just a little luck, Axis can get Paris in april - may the 2 UK armies opening leaves the allied player the chance of prolonging the battle for france till june-july, maybe august if he fails to stop axis in france. If poland falls in turn 4 or 5, chances are that Axis will be halted in France. Avatar developed lately a very nice allied opening, let's say, a revised and improved ZAS He kicked my butt so hard i could boil eggs on it, but it is quite dependant on dice rolls. Avatar identifies himself with luck anyway, so this kind of openings are good for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zappsweden Posted May 23, 2005 Author Share Posted May 23, 2005 Screw Nostradamus. I predicted Allied Air Strategy, what is everone discussing now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellraiser Posted May 23, 2005 Share Posted May 23, 2005 Zapster - quit boasting Almost every early allied aggro strategy use air in a way or another You get the credit for using RAF early on but now the strategies have evolved a lot ... let's say you're one of the grandpas of aggro SC gameplay But the nephews surpassed your achievements Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zappsweden Posted May 23, 2005 Author Share Posted May 23, 2005 Originally posted by hellraiser: Zapster - quit boasting Almost every early allied aggro strategy use air in a way or another You get the credit for using RAF early on but now the strategies have evolved a lot ... let's say you're one of the grandpas of aggro SC gameplay But the nephews surpassed your achievements Agreed, it is the truth. I knew the srategy had potential, just could not point out the exact moves. Now some dudes have found it. The point is that an aggressive Allied France play can now be considered a Strategy not a "gamble that can only win with very good rolls". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellraiser Posted May 23, 2005 Share Posted May 23, 2005 i still doubt it, but maybe you're right ... Axis also has potential to prevent this kind of strategies...at least i think so - maybe more conservative early moves can prove ok for axis ...it remains to be tested Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon_j_rambo Posted May 23, 2005 Share Posted May 23, 2005 Quit lurking Hellraiser, it's 5:45 a.m. here, just enough time for me to play the Allies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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