Col Deadmarsh Posted May 11, 2001 Share Posted May 11, 2001 I had a German infantry squad, Gerbils I think, who were in some woods shooting at some Airborne troops 200-250 meters away. Nearby was a Wasp, about 300-350 meters away and knowing this, I kept my squad On the next turn, the Wasp turned around and started towards my men. My team didn't once even target the vehicle and kept trying to shoot the 3-4 airborne guys who were already pinned by my mg. The Wasp gradually sped towards my men, got within 30 meters, and then flamed my squad, pinning them all. What I wanna know BTS is why didn't they use the faust? Aren't they expected to use it in this situation? I can see from a realistic standpoint that maybe this happens from time to time but I hope this isn't something I'll see a lot. That team is sure to be dead now unless I can get them outta there. I wouldn't feel comfortable telling them to stay there, hoping they'll use the faust when they didn't do it before. I guess what I really wanna know is, can you depend on an infantry team to use their fausts and gammon bombs and such on vehicles like this when they need to? You don't always have the luxery of keeping an AT team back there just in case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stalins Organ Posted May 11, 2001 Share Posted May 11, 2001 What sort of PzFaust were they equipped with - a 30? If so then the Wasp is only at their extreme range & maybe tehy just don't fancy their chance of hitting it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lempereur Posted May 11, 2001 Share Posted May 11, 2001 The AI is very poor when it comes to using intergated AT. Did you check to see what version faust you had on hand? Perhaps it was a 30. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwolf Posted May 11, 2001 Share Posted May 11, 2001 Flamethrowers have extra morale effects on opponent units, they probably had their head down. The question about the kind of PzFaust is a valid one usually they work only good at50-70% of the rating, i.e. 30-45 m for PzFaust-60. I had a Wasp knocked out by a Faust this week, so it certainly works in principle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PondScum Posted May 11, 2001 Share Posted May 11, 2001 <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Colonel_Deadmarsh: I guess what I really wanna know is, can you depend on an infantry team to use their fausts and gammon bombs and such on vehicles like this when they need to?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> No, you can't depend on it. If they're not suppressed, the vehicle hasn't seen them yet, and it's REAL close, they have a pretty good chance of using a faust. Otherwise, you just have to trust to luck - and this isn't a "it's a bug in the AI" thing. It takes guts to stand up in front of a tank on the middle of a battlefield and calmly aim a rocket at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abuhabib Posted May 11, 2001 Share Posted May 11, 2001 <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR> It takes guts to stand up in front of a tank on the middle of a battlefield and calmly aim a rocket at it. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> yes, sure. but when it happens mainly 2 your own troops, it kinds of gets 2 u, doesn't it? i was playing aachen; there was this pzfaust guy stationed in a building b4 the plaza. he took out both my priest n sherm, while being suppressed by the infantry. mind u, my armour were actually flanking him! :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuka Posted May 11, 2001 Share Posted May 11, 2001 I recently had a regular German rifle squad (out of command radius as it was night and heavy fog) take out a Hellcat in open ground that came from nowhere out of the gloom and sped by at high speed. There wasn't even time for a targetting line to appear, the instant the hellcat appeared the (60m) faust was launched and the dead Hellcat rolled another 30m! Beautifull! The squads alert status did not alter either, they just cooley blew the 'cat away at about 10m range and then went on about their business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisl Posted May 11, 2001 Share Posted May 11, 2001 You won't always see a targeting line when a faust is fired-- a squad can target its small arms in one direction and the faust in a different direction. The targeting line will go with the small arms. As far as troops firing them-- faust range is close! Especially if you have a PF-30, and the rockets will draw attention (and fire!). Even the 60 and 100 m versions aren't a whole lot better-- they aren't as accurate as a schreck, and they'll still draw fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col Deadmarsh Posted May 11, 2001 Author Share Posted May 11, 2001 Well, I checked and my team is actually a SMG team with a 100m faust. I guess with that Wasp running full speed at me, the guy holding the thing didn't have time to pull it out and use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferdinand Posted May 11, 2001 Share Posted May 11, 2001 Re : My Infantry Squad Won't Fire It's Faust On An Approaching Wasp Dear Colonel Deadmarsh, Don't give up, recall all the wonderful moments you spent with your squads. Sure these infantry squads can get frustrating at times, but did your try to see things from their point of view ? Try to take some time to listen to their real needs and feelings, this will lead to a deeper understanding of each other. The main thing is to clarify issues that are causing pain, maybe you had some unrealistic expectations about these squads ? PS : don't mind me, i just felt a bit silly today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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