Puff the Magic Dragon Posted November 20, 2001 Share Posted November 20, 2001 Will tanks be able to run down enenmy troops/equipment? I've read this some time ago in a German memorandum for tank drivers, it said something like : 'Don't waste MG ammo for an enemy soldier if you can run him down', something similar was written about guns or MGs. I don't know how the Russians handled it, but I assume they also wasn't prissily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Wacky Posted November 20, 2001 Share Posted November 20, 2001 hehe, I loved doing that in Close Combat KRUNCH! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Harrison Posted November 20, 2001 Share Posted November 20, 2001 that sure would be fun to run over a small AT gun instead of trying to hit it from 20m, because we all know how long it takes to hit something at 20m! also, along the same lines, when are we going to be able to enter buildings with AFV's????? i want to ram straight through those small wooden bldgs with my tigers! that sure was fun back in the day of ASL (darn cellars though! :eek: the dice were never on my side!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diceman Posted November 20, 2001 Share Posted November 20, 2001 Tanks spinning on foxholes would be cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon Posted November 20, 2001 Share Posted November 20, 2001 Chad, try running a tank over an enemy AT in CMBO and let me know what you find. Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Harrison Posted November 20, 2001 Share Posted November 20, 2001 <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Moon: Chad, try running a tank over an enemy AT in CMBO and let me know what you find. Martin<hr></blockquote> im at work right now, but have you tried it before? i assume that if the tanks big enough, and the gun cannot penetrate the armour, the crew will bail out. has anyone tried this before? if i get a chance between my german tests tonight, ill let is spin! ich habe heute ein deutsch klasur. mein deutsch is so so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Five Posted November 20, 2001 Share Posted November 20, 2001 There is a reason why tankers refer to infantry as CRUNCHIES. Gunner..Coax..Crunchies....Fire. The Master Gunner didn't take any points off my engagement that day, but he certainly gave me a stern look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreas Posted November 20, 2001 Share Posted November 20, 2001 <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Moon: Chad, try running a tank over an enemy AT in CMBO and let me know what you find. Martin<hr></blockquote> The gun is knocked out. The crew runs or surrenders. Don't try this with a 17-pdr AT gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattias Posted November 20, 2001 Share Posted November 20, 2001 You can already run over guns in CM (I assume Moon was hinting to that). Even a half track can run over and knock out a 8.8 cm Pak., as can an armoured car, but not a jeep if I recall correctly. M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puff the Magic Dragon Posted November 20, 2001 Author Share Posted November 20, 2001 <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Moon: Chad, try running a tank over an enemy AT in CMBO and let me know what you find. Martin<hr></blockquote> Hey, the gun is knocked out! I never noticed it before. :cool: But the same should be for MGs or normal infantry, I think. You can also ram into a jeep or truck without causing any damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Harrison Posted November 20, 2001 Share Posted November 20, 2001 <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Mattias: You can already run over guns in CM (I assume Moon was hinting to that). Even a half track can run over and knock out a 8.8 cm Pak., as can an armoured car, but not a jeep if I recall correctly. M.<hr></blockquote> i thought that was a hint and a not a question. i had never tried that before, but now i know! now what about infantry? can we crunch them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon Posted November 20, 2001 Share Posted November 20, 2001 Infantry cannot be crunched, they tend to run away But yes, anything bigger and non-moving (or slow moving) can already be run down by tanks and vehicles, provided they're heavy enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gredeker Posted November 20, 2001 Share Posted November 20, 2001 I had no idea this could be done! Looks like I have some testing to do tonight. Does anyone know exactly what the cutoff line is? I.e., what about HMGs? 81mm mortars? Recoilless rifles? HMGs that are down to one man and immobile? This would seem to strengthen the case for putting AT assets in woods or other non-AFV terrain. [ 11-19-2001: Message edited by: redeker ]</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
von Murrin Posted November 20, 2001 Share Posted November 20, 2001 Hehehe. Yeah!! I had no idea you could do that! I tried it with some poor ground-pounders and gave up when it didn't work. I know what I'm doing tomorrow. Nathanael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Harrison Posted November 20, 2001 Share Posted November 20, 2001 <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by redeker: I had no idea this could be done! Looks like I have some testing to do tonight.<hr></blockquote> thanks redeker! i was feeling all alone and stupid. i tried it at home and it works great! but, as the allies, dont be surprised is a faust comes and crunches something besides a gun at that range! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParaBellum Posted November 20, 2001 Share Posted November 20, 2001 <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Chad Harrison: ... ich habe heute ein deutsch klasur. mein deutsch is so so...<hr></blockquote> If you really have a test tonight I would recommend to intensify your learning efforts considerably... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puff the Magic Dragon Posted November 20, 2001 Author Share Posted November 20, 2001 <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Moon: Infantry cannot be crunched, they tend to run away But yes, anything bigger and non-moving (or slow moving) can already be run down by tanks and vehicles, provided they're heavy enough.<hr></blockquote> You mean in reality, or in game? If you mean in game, then you are wrong. You can not run down teams or any other infantry, the same for vehicels. Well, my hope is that this will be possible in CM:BB. It was a very unfriendly, but common practice on the East Front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galatine Posted November 20, 2001 Share Posted November 20, 2001 "...then you are wrong." Gee, that seemed a little absolute... Apparently those Honalee manners are pretty blunt. Unless I missed something, it seems to me that you repeated exactly the point Moon claimed, right after you stated he was wrong. Let me recap what I see: Heavy Tanks- Crunch Guns? Yes. Crunch Infantry(squad OR team)? No. Other Vehicles- I haven't got a clue... Does infantry crunching need to be modelled in? Maybe... Did it account for a signigicant percentage of battlefield casualties? [ 11-20-2001: Message edited by: Galatine ] [ 11-20-2001: Message edited by: Galatine ]</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Chef Sakai Posted November 20, 2001 Share Posted November 20, 2001 that would be great if tanks could smash thru light buildings, i think the heavy tanks were capable of smashing thru heavy buildings as well, i remember seeing some footage of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Harrison Posted November 20, 2001 Share Posted November 20, 2001 <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by ParaBellum: If you really have a test tonight I would recommend to intensify your learning efforts considerably... <hr></blockquote> considering i started learning it two months ago, it aint all that bad, but it sure aint good. bist du ein deutscher? and hey, if you want to ask me what my name is, how old i am, what kind of food i like, what games i like to play, the names of my family members, the weather, im all ready for that! (unfortunatly, the american college 101 language classes dont get you too far into real world talking. unless someone happens to ask me how the weather is! ) [ 11-20-2001: Message edited by: Chad Harrison ]</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puff the Magic Dragon Posted November 20, 2001 Author Share Posted November 20, 2001 <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Galatine: ...it seems to me that you repeated exactly the point Moon claimed, right after you stated he was wrong...<hr></blockquote> Ehm - Gallatine, call me an idiot if I'm wrong, but are you talking about the bold text in my post? :confused: [ 11-20-2001: Message edited by: Puff the Magic Dragon ]</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParaBellum Posted November 20, 2001 Share Posted November 20, 2001 <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Chad Harrison: considering i started learning it two months ago, it aint all that bad, but it sure aint good. bist du ein deutscher? and hey, if you want to ask me what my name is, how old i am, what kind of food i like, what games i like to play, the names of my family members, the weather, im all ready for that! (unfortunatly, the american college 101 language classes dont get you too far into real world talking. unless someone happens to ask me how the weather is! ) [ 11-20-2001: Message edited by: Chad Harrison ]<hr></blockquote> Hehe, no offense intended, Chad. Yes, I am a German, so I know how difficult german is. I'm glad I never had to learn it... German grammar... Oh my god... I wish you all the best for you german studies! And I know what you mean with the vocabulary not matching "real world needs". Among the first words I learned in chinese was "socialism" and "chairman Mao"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Harrison Posted November 21, 2001 Share Posted November 21, 2001 <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by ParaBellum: Hehe, no offense intended, Chad. Yes, I am a German, so I know how difficult german is. I'm glad I never had to learn it... German grammar... Oh my god... I wish you all the best for you german studies! <hr></blockquote> well, all i have to say is DATIVE. darn german grammar! and if i have to memorize one more definite artikel for a word! :mad: but, anyone who has ever learned english in a class, and then tried to talk to an american, now thats something that will make your hair fall out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Splash Posted November 21, 2001 Share Posted November 21, 2001 Well remember that if you can crunch infantry that means you should be able to run your own over too. Means much more careful plotting -- I don't think it's practicable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scipio Posted November 21, 2001 Share Posted November 21, 2001 <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Splash: Well remember that if you can crunch infantry that means you should be able to run your own over too. Means much more careful plotting -- I don't think it's practicable.<hr></blockquote> Hey, don't make a good idea difficult Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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