lcm1947 Posted June 13, 2001 Share Posted June 13, 2001 I am really having trouble seeing the different terrain elevations in the game. Since it seems that much of winning depends on a large part to not getting shot and the best way I know is to keep from being seen I try very hard to stay low and use the lower elevations to move around. This however is very difficult since I am having a lot of problems distinguishing the elevations and was wondering what everybody thought was the best grass/terrain mod for this. Also, if anybody has any suggestions or comments on this subject I'd be grateful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mord Posted June 13, 2001 Share Posted June 13, 2001 Old Dog's Subdude Velvet is nice. It's not too bright and looks very cool with all the other terrain out there. Higher and lower elevations are distinguishable as well. Give'er a try you just may like. Mord Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackhorse Posted June 13, 2001 Share Posted June 13, 2001 <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Mord: Old Dog's Subdude Velvet is nice. It's not too bright and looks very cool with all the other terrain out there. Higher and lower elevations are distinguishable as well. Give'er a try you just may like. Mord<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> I second that recommendation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bfamily33 Posted June 13, 2001 Share Posted June 13, 2001 Without a doubt, IMO, Old Dog's grass. DD has a nice realistic snow set though does not show elevations as well as Gunslinger's. I would think Old Dog's should be available on his site or a e-mail to him. DD's should be on CMHQ. Gunslinger's is probably no longer available for dl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Leader Posted June 13, 2001 Share Posted June 13, 2001 Let's get some screenshots. Here's mine. I think its DDs but I can't remember: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcm1947 Posted June 13, 2001 Author Share Posted June 13, 2001 Thanks for the replys. I'll just have to try Old Dogs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foobar Posted June 13, 2001 Share Posted June 13, 2001 Pzldr, holy cripes, what PZIV mod is that, it is absolutely dreamy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jev.Dk Posted June 13, 2001 Share Posted June 13, 2001 You can also try Wolfs Hi-Contrast Grass and Snow Pack at combatmission.com It is not the most realistic grass ive seen, but its the best when it comes to see different elevations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subvet Posted June 13, 2001 Share Posted June 13, 2001 Yeah, I've found that Wolf's grass is the best when it comes to showing elevation. It's not the prettiest, but when you want the most functional as far as seeing the elevation changes, there is none better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PawBroon Posted June 13, 2001 Share Posted June 13, 2001 Old Dog's subdued MOD of the original Velvet Grass by Richard Tremblett (WHERE THE HELL ARE YOU BTW?!) is the best by far when it comes to have both visibility AND realism. It comes handy also when installing MODs. Put Old Dog then ALL of DD minus the grass and you're set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
André Posted June 13, 2001 Share Posted June 13, 2001 I prefer the grass made by "The Desert Fox". It looks damn good and you can see the elevation good as well. I tried to enter his webpage, but its not available any more. "The Desert Fox", where are you? Heinz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shatter Posted June 13, 2001 Share Posted June 13, 2001 <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Heinz 25th PzReg: I prefer the grass made by "The Desert Fox". It looks damn good and you can see the elevation good as well. I tried to enter his webpage, but its not available any more. "The Desert Fox", where are you? Heinz<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> --------------------------------------------- Shatter here My vote is for the Desert Fox Hi-res grass as well. Matter a fact I just tried Old dogs subdued velvet, and it was a hard descision, but DF-Highres won out in the end. I just thought Desert Fox Hi-Res grass, looks a little better with DD terrain. Not to take away from Old Dogs subdued. It is definatly a very close second in my book. --------------------------------------------- Heinz 25th PzReg: Thats strange I entered Desert Fox's site couple days ago, maybe 3 days ago. [ 06-13-2001: Message edited by: Shatter ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Dog Posted June 13, 2001 Share Posted June 13, 2001 Awww shucks! Glad my recoloring of Tremblett's work is being used The mod is available at CM Outpost, which although not active much anymore was still up as of last weekend. Checked this morning though and it was down. May just be a temporary thing, but if not I'll try to find an alternate host. I can't host it on Old Dog's CM Central as I have like zip-squat space left on the site, and Homestead really doesn't work very well as a D/L source site anyway. - Old Dog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maximus Posted June 13, 2001 Share Posted June 13, 2001 <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by *Captain Foobar*: Pzldr, holy cripes, what PZIV mod is that, it is absolutely dreamy!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Been out of the loop awhile Capt? That's Fernando's PzIV, it's on this page on CMHQ. [ 06-13-2001: Message edited by: Maximus ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Leader Posted June 13, 2001 Share Posted June 13, 2001 Actually, Max, you are right, but that's not all -- oh no, that's not all! It has a special tri-color mesh guard prepared by mike8g. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subvet Posted June 13, 2001 Share Posted June 13, 2001 <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Panzer Leader: It has a special tri-color mesh guard prepared by mike8g.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> I didn't think I recognized that one. Is that available anywhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Leader Posted June 13, 2001 Share Posted June 13, 2001 Drop me an email and I'll send it out tonight. The mesh that is, the rest can be found at CMHQ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binkie Posted June 14, 2001 Share Posted June 14, 2001 Ack! We need to get Desert Fox's terrain hosted again! Can anyone upload it to a dedicated fan site? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shatter Posted June 14, 2001 Share Posted June 14, 2001 <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Binkie: Ack! We need to get Desert Fox's terrain hosted again! Can anyone upload it to a dedicated fan site?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> --------------------------------------------- Shatter here If Madmatt,Manx or Tom give me the OK, I will send Desert Fox Hi-res grass of to one of them. I would not want one of the best grass mods to go on the MIA list. [ 06-14-2001: Message edited by: Shatter ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Leader Posted June 14, 2001 Share Posted June 14, 2001 Could someone post a screenshot of that Desert Fox Hi-Res? I am interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDesertFox Posted June 14, 2001 Share Posted June 14, 2001 Folks, This is the situation: The bad news: Geocities screwed up the complete "The DesertFox" site including my CM subsection "CombatAddiction" and the whole Pantherfibel, Nahverteidigungswaffe, Panther-Article etc... And due to real life commitments I have absolutely zero time for restoring the site in the next months. I am pretty pissed !!! The good news: Because I´m a cautious guy I have a backup of the whole site and all its content AND, perhaps more important, some time ago I uploaded all my CM-Mods to a mirror site at NBCI. So you still can download my stuff from the links given below. I contacted Mensch, Matt and Manx and eventually my CM-MODS will find a new home on their sites. We will see. Here are the URLs of the files at NBCI: http://members.nbci.com/thedesertfox1891/filename.zip [Terrain MODs] desertfox_lowres_grass.zip dfhiresgrass.zip dflowresgrid.zip dfhiresgrid.zip [Waffen SS MOD] oak-summer.zip [Kangaroo MOD] ram_kangaroo.zip [Pedro´s MOD] JagdpanzerIVmod.zip [Gordon´s MOD] Ram_Kangaroo_DF_GM_hr.zip http://members.nbci.com/thedesertfox1891/desertfox/filename.zip [TigerIE MODs - lores] 112.zip 221.zip 313.zip 314n.zip TigerIE.zip http://members.nbci.com/thedesertfox1891/magua/filename.zip [Maguas halftrack MODs] http://members.nbci.com/thedesertfox1891/magua/Hi-Res SdKfz_251 (camo paint V2.zip http://members.nbci.com/thedesertfox1891/magua/Lo-Res SdKfz 251_v2 (camo paint).zip http://members.nbci.com/thedesertfox1891/magua/Hi-Res SdKfz_251 (foliage V2.zip http://members.nbci.com/thedesertfox1891/magua/Lo-Res SdKfz 251_v2 (foliage).zip cheers Helge [ 06-14-2001: Message edited by: TheDesertFox ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binkie Posted June 15, 2001 Share Posted June 15, 2001 Now that's quick service! Thanks Desert Fox! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binkie Posted June 18, 2001 Share Posted June 18, 2001 Ok, I thought I'd drop one more comment into this one... After some reconsideration due to this thread, I now use two different terrain sets depending on the game at hand. I always use dd's trees and brush, however, they are simply the best. For those classic, historical fights, or anything that's going to get REALLY bloody, I also go with DD's grass and tree bases. This is just gritty, war atmosphere stuff. The most subdued of the subdued, almost in sepia tone. Only note: woods bases are a bit too dark for some of the modded German infantry to be clearly seen against them. Now I have a livelier, greener set to choose from as well, something with a nice springtime feel to it. It harkens back to the original CM graphics, though it's definitely refined and toned down suitably. It's Desert Fox's grass fitted with gunner goz's spring/summer treebases (NOT the fall set with the reds and browns - I batch copied and renamed so I would get the first set no matter what the scenario date). These are both extremely well crafted mods, and to gunner all I can say is, those bases are brilliant in their simplicity. Whadya use, the MS Paint spray can tool? Seriously, even if you choose another grass, give gg's bases a try if you want something nice and straightforward, that won't take the whole terrain set in its own direction. Good luck to all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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