Jarmo Posted September 10, 2000 Share Posted September 10, 2000 There, me no grognard. Talking about the second smallish tube above the barrel. Seems to be there in all howitzers. What does it do? Hood ornament? Double barreled weapon? ------------------ Now, would this brilliant plan involve us climbing out of our trenches and walking slowly towards the enemy sir? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patboivin Posted September 10, 2000 Share Posted September 10, 2000 I think it's a muffler, like on cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wadepm Posted September 10, 2000 Share Posted September 10, 2000 The tube serves as a kind of shock absorber, reducing some of the recoil force that is transferred to the gun carriage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
:USERNAME: Posted September 10, 2000 Share Posted September 10, 2000 In Vietnam it was used for bong hits. Fire weapon *BANG*. Fire bowl *BONGGggGGggGgGG* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runyan99 Posted September 10, 2000 Share Posted September 10, 2000 <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by wadepm: The tube serves as a kind of shock absorber, reducing some of the recoil force that is transferred to the gun carriage.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Yeah. I'm *guessing* there is a big-ass spring in there. ------------------ "Artillery is a terrible thing. God, I hate it." Pvt. David Webster 101st airborne 1942-45 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rookie Posted September 10, 2000 Share Posted September 10, 2000 Actually Its a Hydraulic Recoil kinda thingie (My Terminology may be off) but its a buffer so the gun stays where it is placed. I think it came into being with the french 75. If I am wrong Bullethead will surely correct me.. ------------------ -Rookie Cactus Air Force Homepage [This message has been edited by Rookie (edited 09-09-2000).] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pillar Posted September 10, 2000 Share Posted September 10, 2000 I think you are all mistaken. The tube is a specially designed hamster and gerbil launcher, fitted to compliment the normal use of HE rounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisl Posted September 10, 2000 Share Posted September 10, 2000 <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Pillar: I think you are all mistaken. The tube is a specially designed hamster and gerbil launcher, fitted to compliment the normal use of HE rounds. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> So every time they fire off an HE round, the hamsters and gerbils cut loose with a chorus of "Good Show", "Beautiful Shot" and other complimentary words? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Aitken Posted September 10, 2000 Share Posted September 10, 2000 chrisl wrote: > the hamsters and gerbils cut loose with a chorus of "Good Show", "Beautiful Shot" and other complimentary words? It was actually an early form of nose camera. A gerbil would ride on the back of your shell and radio back to you where it was headed. Then it would return on the shockwave of the explosion - they actually had a crew member whose sole purpose was to catch flying gerbils. David ------------------ Major General Maxwell Taylor found himself with several officers but only two or three enlisted men. "Never," he told them, "have so few been commanded by so many." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
:USERNAME: Posted September 10, 2000 Share Posted September 10, 2000 <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by David Aitken: chrisl wrote: > the hamsters and gerbils cut loose with a chorus of "Good Show", "Beautiful Shot" and other complimentary words? It was actually an early form of nose camera. A gerbil would ride on the back of your shell and radio back to you where it was headed. Then it would return on the shockwave of the explosion - they actually had a crew member whose sole purpose was to catch flying gerbils. David <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Why didnt they put windmills on the back of the gerbils David? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedy Posted September 10, 2000 Share Posted September 10, 2000 Roight! All of you back to the cesspool NOW. ------------------ Work is the curse of the drinking class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pillar Posted September 10, 2000 Share Posted September 10, 2000 "So every time they fire off an HE round, the hamsters and gerbils cut loose with a chorus of "Good Show", "Beautiful Shot" and other complimentary words?" That was a good one. Got me laughing out loud at the keyboard [This message has been edited by Pillar (edited 09-10-2000).] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russellmz Posted September 10, 2000 Share Posted September 10, 2000 I can almost hear those 2 gophers from that old looney toons cartoon saying that. (you remember, those two gophers who always tried to steal the entire farmers crop that always sounded like they went to a prep school...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Aitken Posted September 10, 2000 Share Posted September 10, 2000 :USERNAME: wrote: > Why didnt they put windmills on the back of the gerbils David? I really have no idea Lewis, would it make you happy if they did? ------------------ They lost all of their equipment and had to swim in under machine gun fire. As they struggled in the water, Gardner heard somebody say, "Perhaps we're intruding, this seems to be a private beach." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Aitken Posted September 10, 2000 Share Posted September 10, 2000 Speedy wrote: > Roight! All of you back to the cesspool NOW. Sorry, is Seanachai on his tea break, or did you get a permit to say that? You need to go through a rigorous twenty-point vetting procedure (including a written examination and medical checks). ------------------ They lost all of their equipment and had to swim in under machine gun fire. As they struggled in the water, Gardner heard somebody say, "Perhaps we're intruding, this seems to be a private beach." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seanachai Posted September 10, 2000 Share Posted September 10, 2000 <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by David Aitken: Speedy wrote: > Roight! All of you back to the cesspool NOW. Sorry, is Seanachai on his tea break, or did you get a permit to say that? You need to go through a rigorous twenty-point vetting procedure (including a written examination and medical checks). <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Here now, not all this lot is ours! But everyone talking about hamsters should refrain. Although I loved the Hamster Cheering section. Damn, now I've talked about them. Off to the Cesspool I go... ------------------ After witnessing exceptional bravery from his Celtic mercenaries, Alexander the Great called them to him and asked if there was anything they feared. They told him nothing, except that the sky might fall on their heads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sailor Malan Posted September 10, 2000 Share Posted September 10, 2000 <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Jarmo: There, me no grognard. Talking about the second smallish tube above the barrel. Seems to be there in all howitzers. What does it do? Hood ornament? Double barreled weapon? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Since you got hamstered, I will make sure you get an answer. It is indeed the recoil damping bit (hydraulics/springs to allow the barrel to move relative to the rest of the mount, but absorb energy and stop it moving too far.Then it returns the barrel to the firing position. All artillery has them, no just howitzers, it just varies in its (or their) position. (Br 25lber has it under the barrel, and IIRC 88mm AA has it on top. The only exceptions are things like concentic recoil (see another thread - search will find), and ancient (19th century) type stuff. If fact, even WW1 howitzers still had inadequate recoil systems, because you get the classic WW1 films with ramps behind the gun, and the whole thing leaps back and up the ramps - v slow rof, because you have to re-lay the gun. Hope this answers. [oops] ------------------ The conception of such a plan was impossible for a man of Montgomery's innate caution...In fact, Montgomery's decision to mount the operation ...[Market Garden] was as startling as it would have been for an elderly and saintly Bishop suddenly to decide to take up safe breaking and begin on the Bank of England. (R.W.Thompson, Montgomery the Field Marshall) [This message has been edited by Sailor Malan (edited 09-10-2000).] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaKilnGuy Posted September 10, 2000 Share Posted September 10, 2000 The french actually pioneered this type of recoil system during WW1. It wasnt until after that war that the rest of the worlds armies adopted similar artilllery designs. ------------------ Hot enough for ya'? DaKilnGuy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tero Posted September 10, 2000 Share Posted September 10, 2000 Is "recuperator housing" the correct term ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarmo Posted September 10, 2000 Author Share Posted September 10, 2000 That clears it up then. Thanks. A gerbil storage.. I'd have never guessed.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rookie Posted September 11, 2000 Share Posted September 11, 2000 Ok, Who will be making the Mod with Alvin and Theodore sounding off when the 105's fire? ------------------ -Rookie Cactus Air Force Homepage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
109 Gustav Posted September 11, 2000 Share Posted September 11, 2000 I'll make that mod. Should I also make one that replaces the sound of arty about to land (thrummmmm) with "right a little... back left... down 10 yards..." in a hamster voice, to simulate the nose cam guiding these rounds in to the target? LOL ------------------ There is nothing certain about war except that one side won't win. -Ian Hamilton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaKilnGuy Posted September 11, 2000 Share Posted September 11, 2000 I'd like a copy of those mods, can't hardly wait. ------------------ Hot enough for ya'? DaKilnGuy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
:USERNAME: Posted September 11, 2000 Share Posted September 11, 2000 <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by David Aitken: :USERNAME: wrote: > Why didnt they put windmills on the back of the gerbils David? I really have no idea Lewis, would it make you happy if they did? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> I would be happy if you would refrain from meaningless analogys and silly hamsterisms. Really. You are Aitken to be amusing perhaps. Lewis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Aitken Posted September 11, 2000 Share Posted September 11, 2000 :USERNAME: wrote: > I would be happy if you would refrain from meaningless analogys and silly hamsterisms. Give it a break, Lewis. I say what I want to, just like you do. I'm also very careful to make sense when I'm being serious. If you don't care to consider the meaning in what I say, that's fine - but if you don't understand, please do as everyone else does, and move on. Otherwise it's you who ends up making the meaningless posts. David ------------------ They lost all of their equipment and had to swim in under machine gun fire. As they struggled in the water, Gardner heard somebody say, "Perhaps we're intruding, this seems to be a private beach." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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