T-34\85 Posted April 16, 2000 Share Posted April 16, 2000 I just read battlefront.com manifesto and realized that excellent Sam Peckenpah film Cross of Iron was actually MENTIONED somewhere ... I tell people I enjoy Cross of Iron much more than SPR and they don't even know what I'm talking about (possibly because SPR is so damn self-concious and depicts the Germans as either monsters or cartoons, typical spielberg) Stalingrad, a German film, is also plain brilliant. Does anyone know of any other great Eastern Front movies? How many people here have seen Cross of Iron? Where did they get those T-34\76s? The Ppsh41s? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norman Wind Posted April 16, 2000 Share Posted April 16, 2000 Seen Cross of Iron 3 or 4 times on TV - it is an absolutely superb film with a strange ending which was apparently made up on the day of the shoot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-34\85 Posted April 16, 2000 Author Share Posted April 16, 2000 Yeah you're right the ending is unconventional to say the least ... I love the opening credits ... watching the Russian soldiers toss the Nazi banners in front of Lenin's Mausoleum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culex Pipiens Posted April 16, 2000 Share Posted April 16, 2000 i recentely buy the DVD of cross of Iron and i can say that the tank is a T34/85 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted April 16, 2000 Share Posted April 16, 2000 I know Madmatt likes this movie. I've been trying to rent it but it was missing! I'm sure I'll find it eventually. ------------------ Visit my webpage! http://cm4mac.tripod.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markk Posted April 16, 2000 Share Posted April 16, 2000 I have seen Iron Cross 10 times when I was stationed in Germany.To me,it was the best war movie until Saving Private Ryan came out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markk Posted April 16, 2000 Share Posted April 16, 2000 Sorry I meant Cross of Iron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berlichtingen Posted April 17, 2000 Share Posted April 17, 2000 <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>I know Madmatt likes this movie. I've been trying to rent it but it was missing! I'm sure I'll find it eventually.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Buy it. Its available on VHS and DVD. Try www.reel.com. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveT Posted April 17, 2000 Share Posted April 17, 2000 Guys, If any of you are thinking about buying the Cross Of Iron DVD. Be warned. I love the movie but it is not a good DVD. It is not widescreen. And the print they used just plain sucks. Dave ------------------ My front is pushed back.My right gives way.Situation Excellent! I am attacking! Ferdinand Foch 1916 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Peltz Posted April 17, 2000 Share Posted April 17, 2000 One of my all time fave movies. I read somewhere that the T34/85's came from Yugoslavia. Don't know if it is true, but they certainly looked like the real deal to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Username Posted April 17, 2000 Share Posted April 17, 2000 http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Palace/2212/war/crossofiron,html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Username Posted April 17, 2000 Share Posted April 17, 2000 http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Palace/2212/war/crossofiron.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kettle Black Posted April 17, 2000 Share Posted April 17, 2000 <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by T-34\85: Does anyone know of any other great Eastern Front movies? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> "A Winter War" - Brilliant Finnish movie. "Unknown Soldier" - Brilliant Finnish movie. There is both a version from 195? and one from 1986. The old b/w version is the best imo. "Die Brucke" (The bridge) - Don't think it is East front but supposedly one of the best WW2 movies ever made. I have not seen it myself but am looking to buy it. It's about some Hitler Jugend who are ordered to defend a bridge at the end of the war. Based on a true story and made in 1962. ------------------ Kettle Black "The End? With practically everyone still on their feet? Over my dead body!" The Player, "Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are dead" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wadepm Posted April 17, 2000 Share Posted April 17, 2000 If you liked the movie (Cross of Iron) get the book! I haven't read it in a while and I don't seem to have a copy anymore either but I remember it being pretty good. I tried a search for it at Amazon/Borders/BarnesandNoble and didn't turn up anything. Does anyone have a copy. Did it even have the same title? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucero1148 Posted April 17, 2000 Share Posted April 17, 2000 Cross of Iron is one of my top 10 war movie picks and the Russian tanks and equipment were from the Yugoslavian army. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titan Posted April 17, 2000 Share Posted April 17, 2000 Cross of Iron lost count how many times ive seen that, but another brutal film was Stalingrad ------------------ "Some people don't see the light until they first feel the heat" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-34\85 Posted April 17, 2000 Author Share Posted April 17, 2000 Yeah I bought the book last week! It's of course better than the movie, I have yet to see one movie adaptation that actually is better than the book. THERE'S A CROSS OF IRON DVD?!? WOO HOOOOO!!!!!! I don't care if the print sucks I bought the Dune DVD too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaffertape Posted April 17, 2000 Share Posted April 17, 2000 There's a new flick coming out in the fall (tentatively) called Enemy At The Gates set in Stalingrad. Its based on a brilliant book of the same name, but the movie has chosen to highlight only a portion of the battle (which does make sense as the book had a pretty broad scope). The film will focus on the 'sniper war' between Russia's Zaitsev (sp?) and the German sniper sent to eliminate him. There is also a love interest with a fellow sniper - but this is factual; not tossed in a-la typical Hollywood. Jude Law (Zaitsev), Ed Harris (the German sniper), and I believe Bob Hoskins will be playing Kruschev. I'm hoping for good things... We'll just have to see. GAFF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanzfeld Posted April 17, 2000 Share Posted April 17, 2000 I think the German Ace sniper was Koenigs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenris Posted April 18, 2000 Share Posted April 18, 2000 I've just read "War of the Rats" by David Robbins which has exactly the same story line. Chief Master Sargeant Vasily Zaitsev makes a name for him self as a sniper and SS Colonel Heinz Thorvald is brought in to take him out. And yes the love interest really did happen (however hokey it seemed in the book). Intro says it's a factual account of events based on research and interviews. I preferred "Cross of Iron" and "The Forgotten Soldier" though, but a good read none the less. Reg's Fen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Blacksilver Posted April 18, 2000 Share Posted April 18, 2000 The Zaitsev-Koenigs sniper battle is from William Craig's "Enemy at the Gates." (As I recall, Boochever discounts the story as Russian propaganda in "Stanlingrad.") The director, Jean-Jaques Annaud, reportedly told The London Daily Mirror that he "want(s) to make this so realistic that you will think you were there." We'll see. He's shooting in Germany instead of Volgograd ... The movie I'm waiting for is one based on Sledge's book about Peleliu & Okinawa. ------------------ Blacksilver <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>For Americans war is almost all of the time a nuisance, and military skill is a luxury like Mah-Jongg. But when the issue is brought home to them, war becomes as important, for the necessary period, as business or sport. And it is hard to decide which is likely to be the more ominous for the Axis -- an American decision that this is sport, or that it is business.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> -D. W. Brogan, The American Character Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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