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FICTION: Al Gore recently claimed that his mother-in-law pays more than

>$100.00 for the arthritis medicine Lodine; and he claims that his dog

>takes the same medicine for $37.00, claiming "This is wrong!"

>

>FACT: Gore's aides were quick to apologize for Gore's lie, saying the

>information was from a Democratic study. Washington newspapers also

>reported that Al Gore wasn't even sure his mother-in-law was taking any

>medication and wasn't even sure she had arthritis. And, he doesn't know

>anything about his dog's "arthritis".

>

>FICTION: Al Gore said his father, a senator, was a champion of civil

>rights during the 1960's.

>

>FACT: Gore's father voted against the landmark Civil Rights Act of 1964

>and was a racist who was fond of using the "N" word.

>

>FICTION: Al Gore said that his sister was the very first person to join

>the Peace Corps.

>

>FACT: By the time Gore's sister joined the Peace Corps, there were

>already over 100 members.

>

>FICTION: The same sister died of lung cancer years later and Gore vowed

>to never accept tobacco money as campaign contributions.

>

>FACT: Just four years later, while campaigning for office, Gore spoke

>to

>the tobacco industry and said he was one of them because "I've planted

>it, raised it, cut it, and dried it." He raised over $100,000 in

>"reported" contributions.

>

>FICTION: While running for office, Gore's campaign literature claimed

>he

>was a "Brilliant Student".

>

>FACT: Washington newspapers said he barely passed Harvard and

>consistently earned D's and C's.

>

>FICTION: Gore claims an extensive knowledge of law as a result of his

>extensive study at law school.

>

>FACT: Al Gore dropped out of law school.

>

>FICTION: Gore claimed that his knowledge of God and spirituality came

>to

>complete fruition while "finishing" divinity school.

>

>FACT: Al Gore dropped out of divinity school.

>

>FICTION: Al Gore claimed responsibility for inventing the Internet in

>the

>1990's.

>

>FACT : Shocked scientists were quick to speak out, explaining that the

>Internet had been in widespread use by government and educational

>institutions since the early 1970's.

>

>FICTION: Al Gore claimed the book "Love Story" was based on his life

>and

>Tipper's.

>

>FACT: Author Erich Segal called a press conference to deny his claim.

>(Couldn't he at least lie about a love story where his sweetheart

>doesn't

>die?")

>

>FICTION : Gore claimed that as a reporter for a Nashville newspaper,

>his

>stories led to the arrests of numerous corrupt criminals.

>

>FACT: He later apologized for his claim and actually said it was untrue

>(Also known as lying).

>

>FICTION: Gore claims to increase diversity in the staff that follows

>him

>daily, especially among blacks.

>

>FACT: Black members of the Secret Service are suing because they claim

>they are not being promoted to positions guarding the Vice-President.

>

>FICTION: Al Gore said he was the first to discover the Love Canal

>nuclear

>accident.

>

>FACT: The incident was already discovered, being investigated, and

>covered widely in the press for many months before Gore was aware of

>it.

>

>

>

>FICTION: Gore said just recently that if elected president, he would

>put

>harsh sanctions on the sleazy producers of Hollywood's extreme sex and

>violence.

>

>FACT: Just six days later, Gore attended a fundraiser by Hollywood

>producers and radical gay activists where he told them that he would

>only

>pretend to "nudge them" if elected. He raised over $4 million.

>

>FICTION: Al Gore said he built his Tennessee home with his bare hands.

>

>FACT : Totally false!

>

>FICTION: Al Gore says parents should not have a choice between private

>and public schools because public schools are far better.

>

>TRUTH : Al Gore attended private school and he has sent his children to

>private schools.

>

>FICTION: Al Gore remembers his mother lulling him to sleep as a baby by

>singing the popular ditty, "Wear The Union Label".

>

>FACT: The popular ditty was created by the unions when Gore was 27

>years

>old.

>

>FICTION: Al Gore claimed to co-sponsor the McCain-Feingold Campaign

>Reform Act.

>

>FACT: The Act was not sponsored until he had been out of office for

>over

>a year.

>

>FICTION: Al Gore claims to be instrumental in keeping gas prices low.

>

>FACT: Gore has voted on numerous occasions to raise the tax on

>gasoline.

>In his book "Earth In The Balance" Gore claims that the nation's Number

>One enemy is the internal combustion engine. (That's the motor in your

>vehicle that gets you to work and takes your kids to school)

>

>FICTION: Gore pretends to champion the rights of poor women to be

>tested

>regularly for breast cancer with the most modern technology.

>

>FACT: While giving a speech on the subject in September, Gore didn't

>know

>what a mammogram was.

>

>FICTION: AL Gore promised Florida's senior citizens that they would

>finally have low-cost drugs with no interference from government.

>

>FACT: Gore's plan calls for the creation of a huge federal agency that

>would tell you which doctor you are allowed to see in order to get the

>"special rates".

>

>FACT: Al Gore told NBC's Lisa Meyers that he had never told a lie. When

>Meyers pressed harder, "You've never told a lie?!"

>

>Gore said, "Not that I know of." SOUND FAMILIAR?

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Careful Maximus, they'll start calling us jingoistic again. Remember when there were like three or four threads about how the US didn't win WWII? Posts responding to CavScout were often montages of that word. We're not important. Remember that.

Btw, does anyone else find it strange that the state where Jed Bush is governor and where Bush's campaign manager holds high office is the state where Democrat ballots are being lost and "mistakenly" counted as Buchanan ballots?

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A post mentioned the US Supreme Court. Whomever the next US Pres will be, it is the US Congress who has the final say. A majority of them, whether Republican or Democrat, are moderates. So I don't believe there is going to be an extreme shift in the makeup of the court. The way the US Congress is shaping up the next US Pres will definitly not get his first pick passed.

P.S.

Like someone interviewed in Florida said "Your vote does count"

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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Maj. Bosco:

Careful Maximus, they'll start calling us jingoistic again. Remember when there were like three or four threads about how the US didn't win WWII? Posts responding to CavScout were often montages of that word. We're not important. Remember that.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Huh? I haven't the slightest idea of what you're talking about.

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Btw, does anyone else find it strange that the state where Jed Bush is governor and where Bush's campaign manager holds high office is the state where Democrat ballots are being lost and "mistakenly" counted as Buchanan ballots?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Duh? Exactly!

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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Maj. Bosco:

Btw, does anyone else find it strange that the state where Jed Bush is governor and where Bush's campaign manager holds high office is the state where Democrat ballots are being lost and "mistakenly" counted as Buchanan ballots?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yeah, kinda like dead people voting in Chicago in 1960. But I am sure some parts of the state machinery in FL have been subverted. The again alls fair in love and war (which includes politics). And on a sad note, if this matter should come to civil war, Bush seems to be in control, given he won hands down in the military.

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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Maj. Bosco:

Btw, does anyone else find it strange that the state where Jed Bush is governor and where Bush's campaign manager holds high office is the state where Democrat ballots are being lost and "mistakenly" counted as Buchanan ballots?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

How can that be when the Attorney General of Florida is a Democrat and in charge of the Democratic Machine in Florida? He's a lawyer and should know all the tricks!!

Besides, who cares who wins? Both Bush and Gore owe big time favors and it will be goverment as usual.

Personally, I'm going a kick out of what might happen if Gore does wind up with the popular vote and Bush might get the electoral vote. That ought to be entertaining for a while. I'm on the side of the person who gets the most votes wins no matter what party they are from. Majority Rules!!!!

I just wish more people had voted.

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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by MadDog0606:

A post mentioned the US Supreme Court. Whomever the next US Pres will be, it is the US Congress who has the final say. A majority of them, whether Republican or Democrat, are moderates. So I don't believe there is going to be an extreme shift in the makeup of the court. The way the US Congress is shaping up the next US Pres will definitly not get his first pick passed.

P.S.

Like someone interviewed in Florida said "Your vote does count"

[This message has been edited by MadDog0606 (edited 11-08-2000).]<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

No, Congress has final approval. They cannot nominate anyone themselves.

If Bush wins, he will nominate Justices who are anti-abortion rights and pro-religious right. The Republicans control congress, and will not oppose nominations vetted by the religious right.

Could I be wrong? Of course. I hope that I am. But the danger involved in the possibility of a regression to mandatory prayer in schools, posting of Judeo-Christian "morals" in public places (including my children's schools), and the reversal of Roe V. Wade are enough to make this registered Republican vote for a chump like Al Gore.

I hope for the day that the Republican party is no longer dominated by a minority of vocal and influential "moral majority" types who thik the job of government is to force everyone to think just like them.

Jeff Heidman

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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by MadDog0606:

Besides, who cares who wins? Both Bush and Gore owe big time favors and it will be goverment as usual.

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This is why people tend to stay home from from the polls.

Its the inability of some people to make a decision that causes these problems. Just like Sean on "Survivor". He tried so hard not to piss off people, but what it got him was people pissed off because he couldn't make a decision. Remember the incident when he got to choose someone to have breakfast with him on the yacht?

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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Jeff Heidman:

No, Congress has final approval. They cannot nominate anyone themselves.

If Bush wins, he will nominate Justices who are anti-abortion rights and pro-religious right. The Republicans control congress, and will not oppose nominations vetted by the religious right.

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That is what I ment by "Congress has final say".

The Republicans control congress by a VERY SLIM margin and like I wrote above, a lot of them a moderates. Not everybody who is a Republican is an anti-abortionist and/or from the religious right! Just like not everybody who is a Democrate is a left wing liberal!

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Jeff Heidman:

I hope for the day that the Republican party is no longer dominated by a minority of vocal and influential "moral majority" types who thik the job of government is to force everyone to think just like them.

Jeff Heidman

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Now your talking about the Reform Party and Pat B.

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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Screw the padlock. This is a very intense subject matter concerning the whole world. And if you don't think so, then you're kidding yourself.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

It doesn't even concern America, accept for the United States of America wink.gif

As far as foreign policy goes, I don't see any huge differences.

People in this thread - or "foreigners" as they were called - were chastised for a lack of interest.

But given that any internal changes in the USA are of a less impact than foreign policy changes to Europeans and Asians etc., I think that the rest of the world can be forgiven for passing this election over.

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Ok Bush is an idiot and Gore is a liar, who would YOU elect? The only REAL candidate for the people was Nader. He is truly against all of this one world/globalization/NAFTA/ socialistic garden path that both major parties are leading us down. There is not one whit of difference in the ultimate goals of the republican and the democratic parties, and if you think otherwise you deserve what you're going to get.<-tink->

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Stuka wrote:

With almost a 50-50 result,its equally possible that each guy is only half up to the task.

If you'd been paying attention you might have noticed that it's been like this for some time.

Maximus wrote:

I don't get it, the leader of the free world is being elected and all you foreigners say it's boring. The US elections have a huge impact on world economics as well, in case you didn't know.

So true. See below.

Chupacabra wrote:

I'm American, and I think it's boring. Both Bush and Gore are centrists. They've tried to appeal to the same constituencies over the same issues. In the end, I doubt the next four years will be much different no matter which one gets elected.

You think it's boring too, eh? Well, okay. I think it is quite exciting, I think our whole political process is quite exciting. Diluted somewhat over the years, corrupted (some would say) beyond easy redemption, but always of great interest to be sure, if for no other reason because the result of this procedure impacts every American everywhere every day.

Getting around all that . . . while it is true both candidates (I almost wrote "wannabe's" there) look to be about as centrist in their expressed views as could be, even when this country's two-party system chooses to construct platforms of remarkably different design the case always seems to be that after the vote is gotten in and the president elect finally is sworn into office it is business as usual the next day . . . for our country. This is the chief reason our political system is pleased to be viewed globally as the most stable on the planet and correspondingly why our currency, the good old U.S. dollar, remains the world benchmark (for currency traders) this many years down that speculative trail. The fact is we could have elected Ross Perot eight years ago or some crazy former professional wrestler with cauliflower ears, for that matter, and our system would still in all likelihood have functioned in the afterwash of such a crazed and wooly event pretty much as it had before.

The two candidates are centrist, you say? Our electorate is centrist, or nation's collective sense of what is right and what is wrong tends to be centrist. And this, too, should come as no surprise, for our citizens are drawn from every gene pool on the planet and bring with them all the cultural baggage which that must imply, all of them eager to elbow their way in and work for their fair share of the pie. The result of this exercise in social homogenization is (as it must be) a society which is by definition somewhat centrist in nearly every possible respect.

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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by M. Bates:

It doesn't even concern America, accept for the United States of America wink.gif

As far as foreign policy goes, I don't see any huge differences.

People in this thread - or "foreigners" as they were called - were chastised for a lack of interest.

But given that any internal changes in the USA are of a less impact than foreign policy changes to Europeans and Asians etc., I think that the rest of the world can be forgiven for passing this election over.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

If you were camping in the woods would you ignore a Grizzly Bear stomping around not to far from your camp site?

I was listening to NPR (National Public Radio) the other day and they had a German reporter on. He was saying that because the US is the last super power (some may disagree) in the world that the policies of the US effect other nations in a big way. He was saying that because US policies can effect other nations that the whole world should have a say in US politics.

Hopefully what I wrote made sense. But I'm just a lowly programmer, what I write doesn't have to make sense, it just has to work in the end.

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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Dittohead:

Isn't it odd in Florida that the Democrap Attorney General responsible for the Recount is also Gore's Campaign manager in the State.

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Just for the record, the recount is not handled by the Attorney General. The recount is the responsibility of the Secretary of State. And yes, the Secretary of State for Fl is a Republican.

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The Senate Judiciary first holds hearings on Supreme court nominees. Then they approve to go to the floor for approval.

Jeff if you were truly a Republican you would not vote for Algore or be accusing the religious right as you do. Bush has not run around discussing overturning Roe V Wade. You talk just like a liberal, wanting to divide people not unite them.

Bush will selct Judges who interpret the Constitution not redefine it.

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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>I was listening to NPR (National Public Radio) the other day and they had a German reporter on. He was saying that because the US is the last super power (some may disagree) in the world that the policies of the US effect other nations in a big way. He was saying that because US policies can effect other nations that the whole world should have a say in US politics.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

No one would dispute that the US is the last global superpower.

But I say again: the people of Europe are not terribly bothered by who wins, but of course they would have found the conduct of the election, and it's very closeness of great interest.

European governments would like to have a super block of power to rival the United States. Even with Germany and France as the backbone of this - 5th and 3rd biggest world economies respectively - Europe is surely hamstrung by no common language and not even a common currency. I doubt there is much will in many countries for a common tax and spending powers, so the European Project, IMHO, will never be a cohesive or credible force.

Americans, you can rest easy wink.gif

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