Probus Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 Looking through the Cold War manual I see no reference to the MT-12 used as artillery. Am I missing it or is it just not there in its off-board artillery configuration? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
domfluff Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 It's available under the Artillery section of the Quick Battle/Scenario Editor wotsit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyD Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 I just looked it up, 'Gun Platoon [light] and Gun Battery [light]. It takes some adjusting from WWII games to think of a 100mm high velocity cannon as 'light artillery'. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Probus Posted December 16, 2021 Author Share Posted December 16, 2021 Where did you see it @MikeyD? I couldn't find it in the manual. And they don't say much about it in the Quick Battle area. I was asking to see if it had cluster munitions. I'm guessing it doesn't. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
domfluff Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 6 minutes ago, Probus said: Where did you see it @MikeyD? I couldn't find it in the manual. And they don't say much about it in the Quick Battle area. I was asking to see if it had cluster munitions. I'm guessing it doesn't. It's here: And no, the MT-12 does not have cluster munitions. the 2A36 field gun does though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amedeo Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 Well the MT-12 is, indeed, equipped for indirect fire. But I wonder whether it was likely to see such a use in a typical CMCW (not CMBS) scenario, also considering that (in game) each (off map) gun is allotted 40 HE shells. Way above what the on map MT-12 has. Anyway, gotta love a gun that is called like the blades I use for shaving! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Probus Posted December 24, 2021 Author Share Posted December 24, 2021 It would be nice to be able to use some of these guns that are on board as indirect fire sometimes. Ranges too short? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyD Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 BFC tried an on-map high velocity gun for indirect fire in CMFI. The italian 47/32 M35 anti-tank gun. The trajectory is so flat that 'indirect fire' means just barely clearing an intervening low stone wall. You can't really shoot over anything else on a CM-size map. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haiduk Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, MikeyD said: BFC tried an on-map high velocity gun for indirect fire in CMFI. The italian 47/32 M35 anti-tank gun. The trajectory is so flat that 'indirect fire' means just barely clearing an intervening low stone wall. You can't really shoot over anything else on a CM-size map. M35 had up to +56 deg elevation, when MT-12 up to +20 only, so M35 is a real "howitzer" in comparison with MT-12 Edited December 24, 2021 by Haiduk 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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