Bulletpoint Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 Some concrete bunkers in the game have a machinegun installed, some have not. I have put a HMG42 team in a bunker without the machinegun, thinking that they would be able to use their own MG. However, the MG does not deploy, and even worse, the MG42 guy refuses to fire, even though his four rifle buddies are happily firing away. Is this working as intended? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocketman Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 There are bunkers with weapons and others without, called "shelters" in the editor. I think it is impossible to deploy a heavy weapon inside a shelter. Though, a bunker with MG that has lost its crew can be manned again if the MG is operable. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger73 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 (edited) How does one tell the difference in the process of playing on the battle map? Edited January 21, 2018 by Badger73 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocketman Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 IIRC a shelter does not have a mount for a MG in it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanir Ausf B Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 Yet a LMG42 can shoot out of a shelter bunker firing from the shoulder. Seems like an inconsistency so I'll report it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletpoint Posted January 21, 2018 Author Share Posted January 21, 2018 When selecting the bunker it does say "bunker", so I think it's not a shelter. Also another thing, not sure if it matters or not, but the leader of the MG crew is in the back of the bunker and hunkered down on one knee while spotting with his binoculars. I'm not sure if this means he can't physically see out of the bunker vision slit? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocketman Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 In the editor they are listed as "Shelter (Bunker) (Shelter)" but in game as Bunker in the UI. At least this goes for the concrete ones. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletpoint Posted January 21, 2018 Author Share Posted January 21, 2018 6 hours ago, rocketman said: In the editor they are listed as "Shelter (Bunker) (Shelter)" but in game as Bunker in the UI. At least this goes for the concrete ones. That's... somewhat confusing... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocketman Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 Main point is that anything set as shelter in the editor should be named shelter in game as well for clarity. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanir Ausf B Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 Turns out it's not a bug. The HMG42 is classified in the game as a "heavy" weapon type and that category of weaponry is not allowed to be used in shelter bunkers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletpoint Posted January 24, 2018 Author Share Posted January 24, 2018 On 21/1/2018 at 11:57 PM, Vanir Ausf B said: Turns out it's not a bug. The HMG42 is classified in the game as a "heavy" weapon type and that category of weaponry is not allowed to be used in shelter bunkers. Hm, ok. Thanks. But I'm trying to use it in semi-deployed mode, not on the tripod. How come the rifle guys can fire, and not the LMG42? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanir Ausf B Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 (edited) Because the HMG42 is technically a heavy weapon all day every day and the game makes no exceptions. I'm not saying it's realistic in this circumstance, just that it isn't a bug. Edited January 24, 2018 by Vanir Ausf B 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletpoint Posted January 25, 2018 Author Share Posted January 25, 2018 On 24/1/2018 at 12:00 PM, Vanir Ausf B said: Because the HMG42 is technically a heavy weapon all day every day and the game makes no exceptions. I'm not saying it's realistic in this circumstance, just that it isn't a bug. Alright,a design flaw feature then. But, I guess on a deeper level, should troops be allowed to shoot out from a shelter at all? I don't know if I got the right idea about what a shelter is, but as far as I understand, it's basically an underground concrete box where you hide during air raids or artillery fire. Whereas a bunker is a fortified fighting position. I'd be fine with the game showing a shelter as a closed box, without any firing slit. Then at least I would know not to put troops in it for defence But it could still be useful to run to in case spotting rounds approached. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Canadian Cat Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 7 hours ago, Bulletpoint said: Alright,a design flaw feature then. ... I'd be fine with the game showing a shelter as a closed box, without any firing slit. Then at least I would know not to put troops in it for defence But it could still be useful to run to in case spotting rounds approached. We call it a limitation. Doing something different or better might be desirable but not at a cost of doing other work that is more important. BFC have decided to spend their resources on other things. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletpoint Posted January 25, 2018 Author Share Posted January 25, 2018 3 minutes ago, IanL said: We call it a limitation. Doing something different or better might be desirable but not at a cost of doing other work that is more important. BFC have decided to spend their resources on other things. Or maybe an oversight? But again, I dont know what shelters are supposed to represent? It's no big deal for me, as bunkers are so rare to encounter anyway, but just for curiosity's sake.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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