axxe Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 This is CMBN engine 4.0 on a Mac. I am in the setup phase of a scenario. I have a German HMG team which I have placed into a building within my setup zone. When I now try to move the team to another location in the setup zone, instead of them jumping to that new location, I get a move indicator as though I was trying to move them outside the setup zone. When I press the delete key to delete this movement indicator nothing happens. I can add additional movement locations to the unit, and <delete> to remove them, except for the initial move which will not go away. ? Anyone with a connection to BF want to look at the game save? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Canadian Cat Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 I thought it was back space to delete a move order while delete removes target commands. What are the two keys on the Mac? Also note there are several shades of blue / red setup areas for both sides. Any unit starting in one shade can pop to any location in the same shade of blue or red but all the other areas have to be moved into under their own power. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hilts Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 It's nothing to do with version 4.0 or Mac. I've encountered this bug since 2011. It occurs with Hmg teams and buildings. You can re-locate into one building fine but then if you see a better position in a second building and try to re-locate again, you get what has been described above. Only way round it is to start the scenario again or get the mg team to run like hell to the second building and set up before the action starts. Its a bit annoying but should be easy to replicate, Ian, without a saved game. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axxe Posted December 25, 2017 Author Share Posted December 25, 2017 1 hour ago, IanL said: I thought it was back space to delete a move order while delete removes target commands. What are the two keys on the Mac? Also note there are several shades of blue / red setup areas for both sides. Any unit starting in one shade can pop to any location in the same shade of blue or red but all the other areas have to be moved into under their own power. I am using what a PC user would call the backspace key. Which on a Mac is labeled "delete" ;-) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axxe Posted December 25, 2017 Author Share Posted December 25, 2017 21 minutes ago, Hilts said: It's nothing to do with version 4.0 or Mac. I've encountered this bug since 2011. It occurs with Hmg teams and buildings. You can re-locate into one building fine but then if you see a better position in a second building and try to re-locate again, you get what has been described above. Only way round it is to start the scenario again or get the mg team to run like hell to the second building and set up before the action starts. Its a bit annoying but should be easy to replicate, Ian, without a saved game. Thanks for the info Hilts. I'll be more careful with my HMG teams - ie. saving right before experimenting with their placement in buildings. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sttp Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 2 hours ago, Hilts said: It's nothing to do with version 4.0 or Mac. I've encountered this bug since 2011. It occurs with Hmg teams and buildings. You can re-locate into one building fine but then if you see a better position in a second building and try to re-locate again, you get what has been described above. Only way round it is to start the scenario again or get the mg team to run like hell to the second building and set up before the action starts. Its a bit annoying but should be easy to replicate, Ian, without a saved game. Maybe cycling the "deploy" button for the MG team would make a difference? That's the only thing I can think of, since the deploy procedure is often much longer and more complicated indoors. What IanL said about the different shades of red or blue that make up the setup zones could be relevant too. That was the first thing I thought of. (Sorry, not assuming you're stupid or anything! It's just that I cannot duplicate the behavior you mention... although I admit my testing was not totally thorough.) Plus I suppose it very well could be unique to the Mac version. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Canadian Cat Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 2 minutes ago, sttp said: (Sorry, not assuming you're stupid or anything! It's just that I cannot duplicate the behavior you mention... although I admit my testing was not totally thorough.) Plus I suppose it very well could be unique to the Mac version. Exactly, same here. I have never had the problem you and @Hilts describe. I move my mg teams around plenty. Now that we know you are pushing the right buttons and such share that saved game and let me see what happens when I try. You can pm me a drop box link or email. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletpoint Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 I had this bug too. It's rare, but it happens. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Canadian Cat Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 I have good news and bad news. I don't know which is which so here they are : I confirmed I see the problem too in the file you sent me - bug logged. I tried to reproduce it from scratch and could not. Any hints on what order or what you clicked on when you first hit the problem? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axxe Posted December 29, 2017 Author Share Posted December 29, 2017 Not really. I put the HMG team in the building, played around with some difference facings and cover arcs, then went about placing other units. Later, I tried to move the HMG team to another location and got a standard movement indicator. Thanks for checking into it and logging the bug! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Canadian Cat Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 Glad to. I'll play around with some facing and cover arc commands then. Perhaps there is a pattern in there. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocketman Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 @axxe can you specify which scenario you have this problem in so others can try the same and see if it is repeatable. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axxe Posted December 29, 2017 Author Share Posted December 29, 2017 Scenario is: 2 villages H2H Airborne Company engagement https://www.dropbox.com/s/nntawnrw4uk8wx9/2 villages H2H Airborne Company engagement (Norman D scenario).btt?dl=0 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocketman Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 I seem to be able to place both HMG teams wherever I want, over and over again, using "N" for move. Even into the house that is halfway outside the setup zone. I'm on latest engine and PC Win 10. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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