Daroc Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Playing the allies in the advanced training campaign - bridge assault (never played it before). I gave the sniper a move order thru grape vines and they went around the vines into road. Not sure how to take a screen shot. CMFI 1.20 with GL. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wicky Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Playing the allies in the advanced training campaign - bridge assault (never played it before). I gave the sniper a move order thru grape vines and they went around the vines into road. Not sure how to take a screen shot. CMFI 1.20 with GL. Grape vines can be tough to pass through across the rows - though you can follow the rows. And with the wires it will heavily impede vehicle movement 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daroc Posted February 23, 2015 Author Share Posted February 23, 2015 Grape vines can be tough to pass through across the rows - though you can follow the rows. And with the wires it will heavily impede vehicle movement It was a sniper you think this would not be a problem for 2 people on foot. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
womble Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 It was a sniper you think this would not be a problem for 2 people on foot.You haven't answered the implied question: where they going across the rows or along them? Infantry are lazy-assed pTruppen. They will not slog along the muddy bottom of a ditch unless you force them to by putting waypoints nearly every AS, even if cresting the lip of the ditch will put them in the field of fire of half a dozen machine guns. Lazy, lazy, lazy. They will take the fastest, easiest route between the waypoints you tell them to hit (unlike vehicles, which will stick as close as possible to a straight line, boxing any obstacles/impassable terrain). Crossing a vine row is perhaps easy enough (though not as easy as you seem to think), but crossing 10 or 20, your pTruppen will go round. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sburke Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Actually it is far less easy than you think. Pushing through a hedge is easier as there aren't any wires strung between. Think of vineyards as a wire obstacle. A major pain in the ass unless you have no other route. If you give a movement order with long end points they will most certainly go around cause they are smart pixeltruppen. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holman Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Yes. Vineyards are wire fences with vines growing on them. They aren't just a row of plants. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sburke Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 And the moral of this story is the OP needs to spend more time at a winery, hmm perhaps he needs company. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daroc Posted February 24, 2015 Author Share Posted February 24, 2015 And the moral of this story is the OP needs to spend more time at a winery, hmm perhaps he needs company. Dam and I was trying to get out. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sburke Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 no sir, close observation of the terrain is essential in combat, we must get a "taste" for what our troops will likely face. I'll uh, take a sample of the Pinot Noir over there please.... The c3k method of combat has a lot going for it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holman Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 Fact: no WW2 soldier of any nation every went *around* a winery. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daroc Posted February 28, 2015 Author Share Posted February 28, 2015 Yea and in 'Nam when they went thru the pot fields those prob had hardpoints and full fortifications on them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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