John Kettler Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 (edited) This video is a Grade One intel feast, so revelatory I'm astounded it was released. Short of having the AFV, the ATGM and the various manuals, it doesn't get much better than this. It appears to me the missile has two different guidance modes: laser beam rider and radar, for that is a fire control radar on display in the orangeish housing which rises from the hull after an armored hatch opens. NOTE: for some reason, the embedded video isn't displaying properly, yet the link works fine. Regards, John Kettler Edited December 22, 2014 by John Kettler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stagler Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 There is one a while ago from the inside of a Khrizantema in Syria showing its thermal imager and radar HDD. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c3k Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 Nice link. I like the gunboat usage. Oh, the video shows a burning tank: I think they used Vein's flames. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilcommie Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 A few interesting things about the missile is. (although some of guys will probably know this) - The Russian seem to like beam riding missiles. One stated advantage is that the guidance sensors actually faces the rear toward the launcher, hence its hard to jam ! - The missile has fixed fins that spin the missile. Only 1 fin moves to guide the missile. - Its also interesting to note the missile flight path. I would guess the missile is spun for conical scanning reasons too! - Up to 2 tubes can be raised for ripple fire.. - The 9M123 missile apparently has a version with thermobaric warhead for anti infantry use! This seems to tie in with the make the missile cheap so that we can fire many philosophy. One disadvantage of beam riders is that they are less precise as range increases, but I guess the designed probably made the missile cheap to fire in multiples and the warhead large to knock out any tank with 1 hit anywhere! One question is ? Can the millimeter wave radar beam go through smoke? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antaress73 Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 You can find videos of almost anything nowadays john. It's not the soviets anymore, they are very open (even too much). And the internet makes it easy to share 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bil Hardenberger Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 John, here is the embedded video... email or PM me and I'll explain how to embed videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uRTJVrYbzw&spfreload=10 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kettler Posted December 23, 2014 Author Share Posted December 23, 2014 (edited) evilcommie, Welcome aboard! Well thought out post. You don't have to have as beamrider in order to have a rearward looking guidance sensor. TOW, for example, had a xenon tracking beacon, and TOW II had what we at Hughes called the waffle iron, a heated honeycomb metal structure seeable by missile tracker in the 8-12 micron band. Yes, a MMW radar can go through smoke. And lots of other stuff. The Russians had MMW radar deployed long before we ever thought about it. I worked on the WASP smart antitank missile system at Hughes, and it had a 94 GHz seeker. By picking your frequency carefully, you can also make your emitter stealthy at range by taking advantage of the effects of atmospheric attenuation. Stagler, Would very much like to see that vid, please. c3k, That's funny. I think the same OKB (design bureau) which built the gunner's control assembly for the early 1960s Drakon missile tank won the bid to build the ones for Krizantema. The similarities are remarkable. Bil, I had no problem doing the first one right, so I think I brain glitched. On a wholly separate note, I see two different vehicle types here, with distinct differences in general configuration, sensors and fire control and overall equipment layout. Regards, John Kettler Edited December 23, 2014 by John Kettler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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