Lt Bull Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 Hi, Been playing a scenario that features the new MG vehicle, the SPW 251/21 with the triple 15mmm cannons on it. An awesome weapon system that I never even knew existed. I have been ordering it to area fire at several targets and have found it at times not responding to my area fire orders, or not firing at all. The only clue to what may be going on is in the unit damage tab. (This vehicle has been under fire). Here is what a normal damage tab for this vehicle looks like: Here is what I see with the vehicle that won't shoot. The damage indicator is green (as in normal/no damage) but the name of the weapon is greyed out. What does that mean? Nothing in the manual about this. I assume the reason it's not firing is related to this. Strictly speaking, according to the manual the weapon damage indicator being green means it is undamaged. Bull 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c3k Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 I would check your ammo status. Please post a picture of the ammo tab. Keep a savegame, if you can. A screenshot showing the entire vehicle UI, especially crew status (spotting, aiming, etc.) would be helpful. Ken Just noticed: if this is the same vehicle, the lower screen shows some damage to the radio and tracks. It must've taken a few hits. That points more towards crew morale. Need more pix. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freyberg Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 With tanks it just means they're loading 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Bull Posted October 23, 2013 Author Share Posted October 23, 2013 I would check your ammo status. Please post a picture of the ammo tab. Keep a savegame, if you can. A screenshot showing the entire vehicle UI, especially crew status (spotting, aiming, etc.) would be helpful. Ken Just noticed: if this is the same vehicle, the lower screen shows some damage to the radio and tracks. It must've taken a few hits. That points more towards crew morale. Need more pix. Yeah I was going to post the ammo as well just to show all was normal. if there was any doubt... Here is the full shot: Morale fine. Ammo fine. The info on each unit member you get on the bottom left of screen just says each of the 4 crew members are "spotting", so no reloading apparently occurring. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freyberg Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 I had a situation where it stayed greyed out in a StuG down to 2 crew, because there was no loader and the gunner couldn't do both jobs, so I assumed it had something to do with loading - I'm sure I've noticed it when tank crews reload, but maybe I'm imagining it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freyberg Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 Maybe it's a gun jam. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Canadian Cat Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 With tanks it just means they're loading True but that does not prevent you from giving the tank a target order. It sounded like @Lt Bull was saying that when in this state he cannot issue a target order for the vehicle either. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Bull Posted October 23, 2013 Author Share Posted October 23, 2013 True but that does not prevent you from giving the tank a target order. It sounded like @Lt Bull was saying that when in this state he cannot issue a target order for the vehicle either. No, I can issue the order, they just don't execute it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akd Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 Greyed out weapon in the damage tab indicates that it is empty and needs to reload. There is a bug with the 251/21 preventing it from reloading and consequently blocking targeting/firing despite plentiful remaining ammo. Should be fixed in the patch. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gubu Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 Hi, Been playing a scenario that features the new MG vehicle, the SPW 251/21 with the triple 15mmm cannons on it. An awesome weapon system that I never even knew existed. I have been ordering it to area fire at several targets and have found it at times not responding to my area fire orders, or not firing at all. The only clue to what may be going on is in the unit damage tab. (This vehicle has been under fire). Here is what a normal damage tab for this vehicle looks like: Here is what I see with the vehicle that won't shoot. The damage indicator is green (as in normal/no damage) but the name of the weapon is greyed out. What does that mean? Nothing in the manual about this. I assume the reason it's not firing is related to this. Strictly speaking, according to the manual the weapon damage indicator being green means it is undamaged. Bull The leader is wielding an MP40 in the 2nd pic for reasons best known to himself. (I thought he was the loader for a sec so now this post isn't helpful) But what if the crew bails out then gets back on board? HQ units should be able to summarily execute malingering or underperforming pixeltruppen. :mad: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjkerner Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 HQ units should be able to summarily execute malingering or underperforming pixeltruppen. :mad: That feature will be implemented in the Eastern Front modules. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Bull Posted October 23, 2013 Author Share Posted October 23, 2013 Greyed out weapon in the damage tab indicates that it is empty and needs to reload. There is a bug with the 251/21 preventing it from reloading and consequently blocking targeting/firing despite plentiful remaining ammo. Should be fixed in the patch. AGHH!! I am guessing you are positive it's a bug that has already been recognised? What am I going to do with these vehicles in this scenario now? Maybe i ask my opponent to put the game on ice until it's resolved. I have 4 of them! (Scenario is MG Counterattack at Son). gubu, the screenshots of the normal damage tab were taken from a different vehicle. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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