WynnterGreen Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 I was just mucking around with explody stuff in the game, trying to gauge the effectiveness of some of the munitions, somewhere along the way it turned into this.......... http://youtu.be/X4vvSF0LZcQ Thought perhaps someone might be interested. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.X Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 Great video ! It seems to be the real world. Very very realistic. Regards Frank 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stikkypixie Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 Nicely done, what on earth did you drop on those poor bastards? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
womble Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 I spy HAxxoR!! A Landser with an MG survived a bombardment. Never happens in my games.. Seriously though, that's pretty spectacular, and well-presented too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kettler Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 WynnterGreen, Was that a battalion shoot or an entire regiment? Judging from what I saw, the AI's pretty stupid when it comes to self-preservation. After the first few shells hit, everyone else should've hit the deck, thus, wouldn't have been standing around waiting for his turn to die. The fire was so annihilating, it makes me wonder why anyone needed infantry and armor, other than for mopping up? I know the answers, of course, but that's how it seems after watching the savaging the artillery handed out. And that wasn't even a TOT (Time On Target) shoot! Regards, John Kettler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
womble Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 WynnterGreen, Was that a battalion shoot or an entire regiment? Judging from what I saw, the AI's pretty stupid when it comes to self-preservation. After the first few shells hit, everyone else should've hit the deck, thus, wouldn't have been standing around waiting for his turn to die. The fire was so annihilating, it makes me wonder why anyone needed infantry and armor, other than for mopping up? I know the answers, of course, but that's how it seems after watching the savaging the artillery handed out. And that wasn't even a TOT (Time On Target) shoot! Regards, John Kettler Looking at the size of the craters, I would guess it was some sort of naval bombardment, and since WG was "playing with explody stuff", I'd further hazzard that it was the largest kind available. Really big bada boom. I don't believe you could, on the scale of that scenario, reliably discern the survival benefit of going prone, since although it might be double, the difference between 1 and 2 percent is going to get lost in the noise unless you did a lot of iterations. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonS Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 In this context, what's the difference between a battalion and a regiment? :confused: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WynnterGreen Posted October 31, 2012 Author Share Posted October 31, 2012 Initially I'd been placing various armour and infantry units out in the open and dropping everything from 81mm Mortar through to British 5.5inch (140mm) Guns at various distances from Gerry to gauge effectiveness in game. Later I decided to try the same tests with the units in town and in buildings. After a while I got distracted by placing the units 'plausibly' within the town and setting waypoints to make them look like they were 'going about their business'. That was quickly followed by a "MuHaHaHaHa" moment where I decided to hit 'SimCity' with a Naval bombardment to ruin their day. While watching the devastation, from a multitude of angles, I just as quickly started feeling sorry for the little pixeltruppen. 'Documenting' their demise, and my shame, felt like the right thing to do. I hit them with: 4 x 15" (381mm) Naval Guns 8 x 7.2" (183mm) Gun Troop 8 x 105mm Priest Howitzers 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WallysWorld Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 Good stuff! Reminds me of the opening barrage through that German held town when "Kelly's Heroes" broke through the line. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winkelried Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 In this context, what's the difference between a batalion and a regiment? :confused: mmmh. did you mean a bataillon or a battalion ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonS Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 Initially I'd been ... Later I decided to ... After a while I got distracted by placing the units 'plausibly' within the town and setting waypoints to make them look like they were 'going about their business'. rofl - been there, done that, many a time 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kettler Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 WynnterGreen, No wonder the town was practically obliterated! Back in my CMBO days, I was playing a scenario with my Forever War opponent, who I think was Kingfish. In this scenario, I had a Green naval FO--attached to a battleship! I didn't have but a few rounds, but this guy came through, and spectacularly at that. I was deathly afraid of a short or misaimed round, but he dropped a 15" round right onto the cluster of buildings I needed hit. The huge projectile came roaring in thunderously, after which a titanic explosion occurred. Direct hit, not just on the target, but the foe's morale. Essentially, I obliterated practically a company in one shot. You hit the place with four 15" guns, 7.2s and 105s. It's a wonder there's anything left, either of the town or the soldiers and equipment. Regards, John Kettler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WynnterGreen Posted November 1, 2012 Author Share Posted November 1, 2012 "We had to destroy the town to save it" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kettler Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 WynnterGreen, The lunar landscape and pillars of smoke eerily foreshadow the fate of Ben Tre, from which the basis of your quote comes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Tre Regards, John Kettler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hister Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Impressive and sad at the same time. Reminds you that we are nothing else then small ants when it comes to modern warfare... Historically speaking, are there any occurances when such a thin really happened to Germans? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broadsword56 Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 2300 hrs, 15 June 1944 to 0400, June 16, 1944 (before British ground attack on the village of Cristot in Operation Dauntless) Shelling all that time by: *3 Royal Navy Cruisers, *76th AA Brigade *5th AGRA (62 guns in 2nd Army) *121st Medium Artillery Regiment (16 x 5.5" guns) *49th Div Arty (72 x 25-pounders) ...and then British fighter-bombers raked over the area with rockets and strafing for 15minutes prior to jumpoff. Apparently a surprisingly small portion of the ordnance fell on live Germans, because the 12th SS had already pulled back mostly to positions behind the village. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonS Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Good example. FWIW; *3 Royal Navy Cruisers = 18-24 x 6-in *76th AA Brigade = 48 x 3.7-in HAA *5th AGRA (62 guns in 2nd Army) = 8 x 7.2-in, 8 x 155mm, 46 x 5.5-in *121st Medium Artillery Regiment = 16 x 5.5" guns *49th Div Arty = 72 x 25-pounders Which sounds like - and is! - a lot, but without knowing the area of the targets, nor the rounds-per-gun involved, it's a bit hard to make any firm judgement. Op TOTALISE also had a very nice fireplan. And so did VERITABLE. And VARSITY. Edit: looks like someone has been shopping at GMT Games 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broadsword56 Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Good example. FWIW; Edit: looks like someone has been shopping at GMT Games As a matter of fact, that particular boardgame WIP is still in need of playtesters if you want to join us. The Zun Tzu module looks and plays great. (Looks very promising -- and an excellent scale for CMBN battle setups.) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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