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    Vehicle Panic behavior is really BAD

    in Combat Mission Black Sea

    Posted

    Thanks MOS:96B2P but as far as i know the Evade Instant Command starts with the begin of the next turn.

    So if you order EVADE during the Action phase the waypoint only gets set for the next Order phase were you can drag it around.

    This can be already to late if your troops panic after 10sec into the turn and decide to run towards the enemy.

    But i sure will try it again.

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    US soldiers act like cowards ingame

    in Combat Mission Black Sea

    Posted · Edited by Wiggum15

    4. How do you define "panicked" behavior

    I would say its the behavior (movements/actions) od your guys while the Status = PANIC.

    And that is really flawed.

    I mean a Humvee driving aimlessly into the woods because the MG gunner got hit ?!

    Although those woods are in perfect LOS of the enemy ?!

    Although he just needs to stay on the road and finish my movement order to get into safety in less then 5sec ?!

    If they cant get the panic behavior right then maybe they should reduce the times it happens.

    I would not expect a regular US infantry squad to panic after a 2 minute firefight with one WIA while they are surrounded by US tanks and APC's and have CAS overhead...

    At least not the Battlefront version of panic where the troops show extreme stupid illogic and suicidal behavior.

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    US soldiers act like cowards ingame

    in Combat Mission Black Sea

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    It really could be that.

    I expect them to seek cover and keep their heads down, what i did not expect is how fast they panic (especially while in vehicles)

    Again, we are talking about professional soldiers serving in a army with the most epic firepower available ever.

    That would not be such a issue if the panic behavior would be halfway decent. But with a complete random panic behavior that is more then often pure suicide this is really a issue.

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    US soldiers act like cowards ingame

    in Combat Mission Black Sea

    Posted · Edited by Wiggum15

     

    Now if you are suggesting troops in general behave wrong, that is a different discussion.  There are some questions as to how the TAC AI responds to fire that reflects more WW 2 conscript experience rather than how well trained troops would respond.  That however is equally applied to all sides.

     

    ...and some would expect Battlefront to change that for their new shiny modern warfare game, but thats maybe asking to much for a 50$ game...

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    Vehicle Panic behavior is really BAD

    in Combat Mission Black Sea

    Posted

    Could you write a better TAC AI.  No.

     

    Really ?

    I hope you dont complain about your new car if it has malfunctions, i mean, could you build a better car ? :rolleyes:

    I already knew the forums here are full of people that will defend even the most flawed aspect of the game, even the most stupid and obliviously buggy TacAI behavior but i did not expect it at that scale, sorry.

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    Vehicle Panic behavior is really BAD

    in Combat Mission Black Sea

    Posted · Edited by Wiggum15

    I did not say all US troops should be battle hardened vets, but they should have way more then the Russians for example, especially in leadership positions.

     

    The issue is, currently there is no real logic behind the panic behavior, its completely random !

    Some think that realistic but for me thats just a excuse for a non existing or very bad TacAI in such situations !

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    Vehicle Panic behavior is really BAD

    in Combat Mission Black Sea

    Posted · Edited by Wiggum15

    That is whole point of panic :)

     

    No, its not.

    Professional Soldiers, especially battle hardened US soldiers should not act like this.

    I said it already in the other thread, PANIC in the military way does not mean behaving completely irrational !

     

    What you do is just searching for excuses, the TacAI is fundamentally flawed since Shock Force !

    It cant be that hard to code a AI that is able to get in the closest save spot as fast as possible, they had enough time since 2007.

     

    PANIC is a state in which the survival instinct takes over and the soldiers no longer care about orders or being combat efficient, they want to get out of harms way as fast as possible.

    Now please...

     

    Or could it be that the US guys ingame just panic way to quick ?

    Every time i had my troops going to commit suicide because they panicked it was with US forces...one should expect them to be some of the most well trained and battle hardened vets out there...

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    Vehicle Panic behavior is really BAD

    in Combat Mission Black Sea

    Posted · Edited by Wiggum15

    Hi !

     

    I dont know but at least the panic behavior of wheeled vehicles is really bad !

    I just had a Truck on a road come under fire 30 sec in the turn. The vehicle would just need to drive backwards 10m to be save (it then would be covered by the terrain).

    The turn ended and the vehicle did not move (still under fire and one of the crew WIA, vehicle status SHAKEN). 

     

    I ordered the vehicle to just drive backwards on the road into safety.

    The next turn starts, the vehicle moves one meter and then...the vehicle status changes to PANIC...the vehicle stops (canceling my order), turns 45° and drives backwards into the woods...still facing the direction where the fire came from !!!

     

    At the end of the turn the vehicle was deep in the woods, still facing enemy fire and then got KO'ed with a RPG.

    All that could have been avoided by driving 10m backwards like i ordered the vehicle to do !

     

    Again, just as with infantry, as soon as the status becomes PANIC, your virtual soldiers turn into incredible stupid suicide machines.

    Please, this needs tweaking !

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    Please NO Marines or NATO forces module !

    in Combat Mission Black Sea

    Posted

    Aside from the countries involved in SF, only a couple other could stand out, and mostly it's France.

    It would be both nice and refreshing for example to have a module with a Franco-German task force (although looking through its oob seems mostly a light infantry force, they could get some armor attachments in a Black Sea aop).

     

    That Franco-German task force would include me...and for 2017 i had other things planned then fighting some Russians... :P

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    Please NO Marines or NATO forces module !

    in Combat Mission Black Sea

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    I personally dont care about the Marines or other NATO countries (except for Poland).

    And yes, i said that, i would say it would be "cheap" to again go with a Marines Module a British Module and a NATO Module.

    CMBS already looks like they took the units and buildings from CMSF and the terrain from the WW2 titles.

     

    A module that brings winter terrain + separatists

    A module that brings a Polish intervention force

     

    Just something new, not the same stuff we already had in shock force.

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    Please NO Marines or NATO forces module !

    in Combat Mission Black Sea

    Posted · Edited by Wiggum15

    Hi !

     

    I hope Battlefront does not plan any Marines or NATO forces module.

    I would not buy them, yes they have different tools but it would still feel the same (Ukraine, Summer, West vs. Russia).

    Also, it would feel kind of "cheap" do do a Marines/NATO module again, its most likely much less work because they already have the stuff from the Shock Force modules.

     

    What would be cool would be Separatist Module with lots of new scenarios and a winter/autumn landscape.

    Or a Crimea module about a fictional recapture attempt by the Ukraine military.

     

    What do you think about that ?

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