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    How Hot is Ukraine Gonna Get?

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    How Hot is Ukraine Gonna Get?

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    3 minutes ago, danfrodo said:

    I think there's a translation issue here.  It should say "Russian Nat Guard General Wins Medal for Taking Large Bribes".  Since when is corruption a negative thing under Putin?

    Benefit of mafia state. Everyone is a criminal that can be put to justice if so willed by the bigger boss.

    I am sure the corruption has nothing to do with the real reasons for this move.

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    How Hot is Ukraine Gonna Get?

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    3 minutes ago, The_MonkeyKing said:

    Just found this footage from Kherson offensive: 
    https://old.reddit.com/r/UkraineRussiaReport/comments/10muegb/ru_pov_a_single_russian_t72b3_with_artillery/

    "The tank crew of a Russian T-72B3 from the 124th Independent Tank Battalion part of the 76th Guards Air Assault Division engages two Ukrainian motorized companies supported with a platoon of T-72M tanks moving in parallel with one another. This took place near the village of Kostromka.

    Interesting to note that one of the Ukrainian crews of a YPR-765, out of panic and disorganization, begin shooting at their friendly column of BMPs moving in parallel with them.

    The footage shows the Russian tank taking out 3 YPR-765 vehicles, 2 BMPs as well as a direct hit on a T-72M. Another 3 Ukrainian vehicles were destroyed in this engagement after the video ends. Afterwards, the Russian tank drove off to safety, leaving the battlefield."

    Really starting to notice that anything that shows UKR in bad light or losing is downvoted to oblivion on the most popular sites. Even if the footage is just from a Russian POV it gets downvoted. /r/UkraineRussiaReport/ is a pretty good counter to this.

    https://old.reddit.com/r/UkraineRussiaReport/

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    How Hot is Ukraine Gonna Get?

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    Just found this footage from Kherson offensive: 
    https://old.reddit.com/r/UkraineRussiaReport/comments/10muegb/ru_pov_a_single_russian_t72b3_with_artillery/

    "The tank crew of a Russian T-72B3 from the 124th Independent Tank Battalion part of the 76th Guards Air Assault Division engages two Ukrainian motorized companies supported with a platoon of T-72M tanks moving in parallel with one another. This took place near the village of Kostromka.

    Interesting to note that one of the Ukrainian crews of a YPR-765, out of panic and disorganization, begin shooting at their friendly column of BMPs moving in parallel with them.

    The footage shows the Russian tank taking out 3 YPR-765 vehicles, 2 BMPs as well as a direct hit on a T-72M. Another 3 Ukrainian vehicles were destroyed in this engagement after the video ends. Afterwards, the Russian tank drove off to safety, leaving the battlefield."

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    How Hot is Ukraine Gonna Get?

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    on the Leopard 2 coalition from Finland: https://www.iltalehti.fi/politiikka/a/ef57d451-937c-4ddf-a5cc-c52e57e6a7b5

    "Defense Minister Mikko Savola stated on Wednesday at the NATO headquarters in Brussels that the German-led Leopard coalition is not on the verge of disintegration

    - At least it wasn't on the verge of disintegration, here too we have gathered and talked, yes there is a cooperation model here, Savola said at the press conference held after the NATO Defense Ministers meeting.

    Welt says that only Poland responded to the number of tanks sent by Germany, although Poland has supplied Ukraine with older tank models.

    According to Welt, the Dutch and Danish governments have announced that neither country intends to deliver Leopards to Ukraine

    According to Savola, the news that Denmark and the Netherlands refuse to deliver Leopard 2 tanks to Ukraine is false.

    - Yes, it is false news, unless the matter has changed in the last 10 minutes, Savola said.

    According to the Finnish Minister of Defense, all countries of the coalition are still involved in the project.

    - Everyone is involved, who have been until now.

    According to Welt's information, Finland is also not going to deliver a single Leopard before the NATO application is approved.

    - Yes, we are involved, but I am not saying how many (tanks) we are involved with, Savola told Iltalehte on Tuesday."

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    How Hot is Ukraine Gonna Get?

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    7 hours ago, The_Capt said:

    We have been having a lot of laughs here today but I did not want to let this one slip by.  Been watching these summaries go by for about a week now and is it just me or are the Russians losing an increasing number of back-end equipment overall?  Guns, C2, trucks (especially fuel trucks) and even some engineering equipment.  That is 7 guns yesterday alone.  People keep focusing on the front end but the enablers in the RA are taking a beating by the looks of it.

    I have been watching this same thing. In the past RUS rarely lost these "back-end equipment" in their own attacks. These types of losses came mostly from when UKR itself advanced.

    RUS attrition warfare will not be vary long-lasting if they keep loosing these assets at this rate.

    Might be a combination of explanations: RUS didn't do as much combined arms attacks before so this equipment was missing, UKR rear precision strike capability is developing (the whole killchain),  UKR has changed their targeting

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    How Hot is Ukraine Gonna Get?

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    4 minutes ago, danfrodo said:

    Absolute f--ing s--tshow.  This stage of the process should've happened 6 months ago.  Hopefully at least the IFVs & AFVs are still going to be arriving.  Bristling w ATGMs I hope.

    I must say, well played Germany. Putting the Leopard screamers on the burner with a battalion of L2A6. Not saying this is good for Ukraine, bad leadership from Germany. Playing hardball and not even getting results...

    I am sure there could have been way more L2A4s, especially with a looser timetable.

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    How Hot is Ukraine Gonna Get?

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    24 minutes ago, Lethaface said:

    Where is Finnish tanks? 😜 Finland has many Leo2A6 and also 2A4 in reserve. 

    Finland doesn't disclose the content of its aid, I am quite sure Finland is participating in limited numbers at the moment.

    Additional numbers seem to be dependent on the ratification of Finnish NATO membership. This has been quite clearly but somewhat indirectly stated by officials and the president. The line is because of Finland's location and non-NATO membership military support is constrained.

    The fact that the big south, west, and central European nations are not giving away any significant percentages of their fleets or even offering to compensate tanks given by others is seen as distasteful. Russia's neighbors and so the ones that are most at threat are leading in donations, this is not seen as desirable in Finland. The load sharing should be reversed from our point of view.

    If I would make the decisions half of the Finnish Leo fleet(all the 2A6 variants) and the BMP-2s would be already heading to UKR.

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    How Hot is Ukraine Gonna Get?

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    Posted · Edited by The_MonkeyKing

    on the matter of German protests on the Leopard 2 donations and leopard in  general:
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    Seems #Germany is upset about the limited number of #Leopard donors to #Ukraine. While I have long been arguing for more aid to Ukraine, I'm somewhat unsure what exactly is the core of the criticism in this case.
     
    Make no mistake, Germany does *a lot*, but every step is accompanied by hand-wringing and vocal concerns about the risk of escalation, which undercut the diplomatic part of it. 
     
    When it comes to the #FreeTheLeopard in particular, the discussion has been ongoing for months, and Germany has denied other countries the opportunity to proceed. The "not alone" has been a hollow argument, as it has been other countries asking permission to do something. 
    "Not without the US" was the real argument, showing that European strategic autonomy wasn't something Germany actually cared for in this case. 
    The lack of ready plans from other countries is notable. For a few months it has been clear that at some point the Leopards likely would be freed, and having a ready contingency plan for that would seem to have been an obvious move for most operators.
     
    So here I can give German criticism some points. At the same time, "We've changed our mind, why didn't you prepare for that?" isn't necessarily the strongest foundation for critiquing others... 
     

    Numbers and firm commitments could be higher, but isn't surprising. I pointed out way back in January that few operators have large numbers available for delivery, unless they're frontline states with cause for ensuring they have strong forces themselves.https://corporalfrisk.com/2023/01/15/free-the-leopards/ImageImage

    So far #Poland, #Norway, #Canada, #Spain, and #Portugal have all joined in, as well as the Danish-Dutch-German #Leopard1A5 deal for 100 tanks. I imagine *some* additional tanks will appear as well (*cough* Finland *cough*).
     
    I'm not sure what 🇩🇪 was expecting? A number of countries each donating a handful of tanks to ensure critical mass of at least a battalion or two was the low-hanging fruit discussed all along. Anything else (Spain shipping all 2E or Finland all 2A4) would've been a huge surprise. 
     
    (#Poland might have been overly vocal about how ready everything was, but they have also sent significant numbers of tanks already and is ready to part with a company of Leopards despite being in the first row, so it's difficult to fault them too much) oryxspioenkop.com/2022/04/answer…Image
    It seems there's a combination of 1) people talking about "hundreds of Leopards" without detailing versions or users leading to unrealistic expectations, and 2) Germany not feeling appreciated for ending their stalling of deliveries after half a year, both are in play here. 
    I would advise everyone to take a deep breath. Germany hasn't exactly the goodwill built up to start trashing people, and others could have had their plans ready for the inevitable German flip. Still, the Leopards are now on the move, and they will be an important addition. 🐆 

     

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