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Once again Michael Emrys is absolutely correct.

I'm embarrased to say that after gushing over the G700 for a day and a half I packed it back in its box and went back to using my MX Revolution. The G700 has a lot of gaming features like DPI switching and multiple profiles, but the MX Revolution is more comfortable: it's a classier product. I have noticed I do the same thing as you to use the thumb wheel (which I have bound to cut and paste). After owning the mouse for two days I unbound the thumb wheel middle click button but on reflection that was probably premature. Anyway, when CMBfN is released I will drag out my n52 and give it a whirl.

I just pre-ordered Crysis 2 Limited Edition. Check out these insane extras:

Paulverisor64 I think you might be out of luck. I had a look at the Shock Force manual. There is a section on customizing hotkeys at page 21: The hotkeys.txt file in my CMFS data directory had the following keys assignments: It appears from this that you can assign addtional hot keys (or change the existing ones) but only to the extent of the commands listed in this file. You might try looking at this thread: http://www.battlefront.com/community/showthread.php?t=84362 in which the gods of the Combat Mission forums discuss their adventures in hot key binding. Perhaps a post in that thread will get you a more helpful reply.

It worked for me just a few minutes ago (although I did pay with paypal)

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No .

They have already published a video of box: and they have a video of the game installer ready for their 1 April television advertising campaign: http://www.battlefront.com/community/showpost.php?p=1236938&postcount=18

Paulverisor64 the MX Revolution mouse would be a excellent gaming mouse if the side wheel was in an ergonomic position. It is not actually a scroll wheel. It is more like a sprung switch. It rotates about 10 degrees clockwise and anti-clockwise when pressed or pulled (and automatically centres when released). It also has a middle click function. With the 2 button above the thumb that gives 5 thumb buttons (vs 4 thumb buttons on the G700). Unfortunately, if you rest your thumb anywhere on the wheel other than the middle position it rotates when you press to middle click. Given I have to shift my mouse grip to even touch it the thumb wheel is useless to me. I have wondered whether there is a design flaw in the mouse or a design flaw in my hand. I think the answer is neither. On the MX Revolution mouse the middle segment of my thumb reset exactly under the division between the forward and rear thumb buttons, so I think the mouse was designed for someone like me (that is, a normal sized middle aged man with a mouse fetish rather than a 6’5” teenager with musician fingers). The default function of the thumb wheel is document flip: it makes sense the designers would reserve this function for a button that could not be activated other than with a deliberate action. I haven’t bothered setting up either the MX Revolution or G700 for gaming but I would hypothesis that I would assign the following buttons to game commands: MX Revolution (6 buttons) 2 thumb buttons 3 scroll wheel buttons (left, right and middle click) 1 under scroll wheel button (3 side wheel buttons not assigned) G700 (9 buttons) 4 thumb buttons 3 scroll wheel buttons (left, right and middle click) 2 left of scroll wheel buttons (1 left of scroll wheel button not assigned) (1 under scroll wheel button not assigned) On buttons alone I don’t see a significant difference between the MX Revolution and the G700. Pluses for the G700: Insanely high polling rate On the fly DPI switching Independently adjustable vertical and horizontal scrolling speed Multiple user selectable profiles (5 stored in mouse memory) Application detection (auto selection of profile on application launch) Macro editor Pluses for the MX Revolution: Charging dock Lithium ion battery More comfortable The G700 is premium gaming mouse whereas the MX Revolution is merely a premium mouse. That said, but for the side wheel issue I would definitely choose the MX Revolution over the G700. As far as free scrolling goes, I can’t see that it would be of much use in games. But it is extremely useful in scrolling through long documents and web pages. It is my favourite feature on both mouses. Vinnart I hope I didn't insult you with that "musician fingers" crack.

I found the side wheel to be too far forward to be comfortable (I think it would work better if I had a larger hand and a longer thumb).

The answer here is yes and no. If you enlarge the picture below you will see there is an indentation on the right hand side or the mouse, below which is a flange. I guess it depends on whether you are right handed, the size of your hands and whether you use a palm grip or a claw grip, but for me (with a palm grip) my thumb naturally rest on the flange and the thumb buttons are in the perfect position above it. You won't hit them by accident and they can be engaged very comfortably. If you enlarge the next picture you will see the placement of the top buttons. The scroll wheel is obviously in the perfect position and it has three buttons: middle click, left and right click. On my Revolution mouse the scroll wheel buttons are mushy but I find the G700 scroll wheel buttons have a distinctive clicky feel. I feel completely confident using them. Regarding the three buttons on the left, with my with short fingers the top button can only be accessed if I lift my palm off the mouse. The other two buttons are accessible without a change of grip but they are just left of a comfortable position. I should mention that I tend to hold the mouse with my index finger to the left of and touching the scroll wheel. If you grip the mouse with your middle finger on the scroll wheel (ie. if you are a freak) the left buttons naturally sit under your index finger. The two buttons below the scroll wheel are not ergonomically placed. The first one is not programmable (and is not counted as one of the 13 buttons): it is a mechanical button that engages and disengages the free scrolling mode. With my mouse grip when I move my index finger onto the scroll wheel this button sits under and just touches the middle segment of my index finger. It is stiff, relatively high (see bottom picture) with a long travel. It can't be engaged by accident: to engage it I have to move my index finger off of the scroll wheel and curl it backwards an uncomfortable distance. If you enlarge the next picture you will see button below the scroll wheel button is relatively low. With my fingers and mouse grip and with my index finger on the scroll wheel this button sits directly under and several millimetres below the joint between the second and third segment of my index finger. It can only be engaged with a deliberate act of will. This is a programmable button and its default action is the profile switcher. If you enlarge the picture below I don't think I have to answer this question. To complete the mouse button discussion I should also mention that the mouse allows (I think) 5 user selectable profiles. You can also program an application specific profile that automatically loads when the specified application is executed (I imagine the MX 581 also had this feature). If you only wanted a gaming and non gaming profile I guess you could use this feature to switch to the gaming profile and bind the profile switching button to some other function. Also the profiles are stored in mouse memory and I believe the key assignment bindings can be used on computers that do not have the logitech set point software installed. I should also note that the battery level does not display by default: you need to check it with a mouse button or in set point (or you could switch the mouse off and then on again using the on/off switch underneath the mouse). Also, you can vary the vertical and horizontal sensitivity independent of each other, etc. (I think these are all logitech standard features.) Another interesting feature is the mouse feet. The manual states they are replaceable. They appear to be clipped on. This is good news since one of the reason I replaced my MX1000 was because the mouse feet fell off. However, I have no idea where you could buy replacement feet for the G700. To sum up, if you are a button fiend (like me) this is a great mouse. It is marginally less comfortable than my MX Revolution and I am still pissed off about the battery issue, but I think I can live with it. With my n52 I found the thumb buttons to be next to useless (especially the space bar key). However, with my 10 button MX 1000 it wasn't an issue. Thanks for the advice: I think I will take my n52 out of storage and give it a spin.

Did you tell her it comes in white and black?

I can see you don't share my aversion to attached peripherals. As I said above, the G700 has the DPI switcher and it has 4 of those useful side buttons rather than 2. I find this interesting. I have been looking for an excuse to buy one of the newer Belkin speedpads - I didn't think there was anything other than a cosmetic difference. Do you use one of them in the CB games (and if so I would be interested in your set up). By the way, years ago I bought one of these: What a waste of money that was.

So yesterday I bought the Logitech G700. There is good and bad. The MX Revolution is shiny smooth whereas the G700 is slightly textured. This makes it marginally less comfortable but probably gives sweaty FPS players better grip. It is heavier than the Revolution (which is not a bad thing). Best of all, all the buttons are in ergonomically favourable positions and Logitech has fixed the problem with the free scroll buttons so they are now usable in free scroll mode. And the G700 has three selectable profiles with the option of binding different keys in each of the profiles. It also has an incredibly high polling rate (up to 1000 reports per second) so it is supposedly excellent for twitch gamers. You can also change the DPI settings on the fly (although I don't find this to be a useful feature). Now the bad news. You can see in this picture a cable attached to the mouse. The G700 is a wireless mouse but it doesn't have a charging dock. You charge it by plugging in a USB cable. In this mode it can be used as a wired mouse while charging (but I consider this to be less convenient than a dock). Worst of all, it is not powered by a lithium-ion battery. It ships with an AA sized low self discharge nickel-metal hydride battery. Arguably NiMH batteries are superior to lithium-ion batteries, but NiMH batteries are difficult to charge quickly (or rather, a quick charger would cost as much as the mouse). Logitech's solution is to trickle charge the battery through the USB port which I understand takes about 5 hours, and this no doubt explains why it is designed to be used as a wired mouse while charging. I'm not sure I like this. It is now the 21st Century. Are we really expected to control our computers with a wired mouse? At this point I don't know how this will affect me. I guess if it pisses me off too much I could use alkaline batteries.

I'm a bit of an input peripheral whore. I used to play Wolfenstien Enemy Terriroty with a Logitech MX1000 and my Belkin n52. The MX1000 was a 10 button mouse and the combination worked a treat. When my MX1000 died (and my spare MX1000) a few months ago I bought an MX Revolution mouse. The MX Revolution is a free scrolling mouse. I am very happy with the MX Revolution. It is very comfortable and I now find that I cannot live without a free scrolling. However, in free scroll mode the scroll wheel buttons (left click, middle click and right click) don't work reliably. One of the buttons needs to be dedicated to select and unselect the free scrolling mode so effecitvely it is a four button mouse (the lateral scroll wheel can act as another three buttons but I found it to be in an unergonomic position). I was good for general use (I bought another one for work and a spare) but due to the lack of buttons it is not suitable as a gaming mouse.

I also have to give a big thank you to the American government for generously devaluing the American dollar.

So does this mean you are not working on a game installer video?

I actually bought one of these things years ago - it was great for FPS games. All the keys are bindable, you can bind the keys to three seperate profiles (which are selectable on the fly) and you can program macros to the individual keys. I packed it away when I stopped playing online shooters (I got sick of being fragged by 13 year olds). I think these things are more designed for FPS games but I guess they would work with strategy games as well.

I paid $16 for postage to Australia.

I studied journalism and writing at the University of Queensland and I can assure you this is not a joke. Studies have show there is a significant difference between personal communication and written communication. In personal communication a lot of subtextual information is transmitted visually (through gestures and facial expressions) and aurally (through tone, word stress, etc). The written word is therefore a relatively sterile medium. To compensate authors have developed a literary technique called "exaggeration". I have found that, when writing, the subtle use of the literary technique of exaggeration can make a story a million times more interesting.

When 12 buttons aren't enough

I like to think I am mature and self restrained. When I was a kid I used to sleep late on Xmas day, I eat low fat yoghurt, and when the iPad was released I waited 3 whole hours before I bought one (lining up is for geeks). But when I returned to this forum and saw CMBfN was available for pre-order I got a little excited. And when I visited the pre-order page and saw a youtube link my fingers started to shake. And then I clicked on the link and found it was a 90 second video of a metal box. Really? Is this what you pay your marketing department hundreds of thousands of dollars a year for? I think you can learn something about marketing from Apple. For the release of the iPad 2 Apple staged a release spectacular at a specially built auditorium in Las Vegas (I believe they had to knock down several casinos) and the release concert was hosted by an animatronic Steve Jobs puppet (they had considered unthawing Steve Jobs from cryogenic suspension but decided to save him for the iPhone 5 launch). Anyway, I was slightly disappointed that I didn't get to see a video of in-game footage. Nice box though.

I'm a bit disappointed as I was pulling for a D-Day release date. I understand this game will be available for Mac users but I have to ask, will it also be available for XBox 360?

Does Fatherland count?

I must be because I forgot to mention Breaker Morant.