DreDay
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1 minute ago, HUSKER2142 said:
I think we both perfectly know how the troops did not use the correct methods. And also the fact that 50% are servicemen drafted into the army for less than six months. Compare the losses in the battle for Grozny in 1995 and 2000, they are significantly different.
I agree 100%. My only point was that un(or lightly) protected missiles don't tend to stay on top of armored vehicles very long; especially in intense combat engagements. That's not a matter of training - that's just the physicality of it
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3 minutes ago, HUSKER2142 said:
For this, there is an ATGM with a high-explosive warhead. Plus is compensated by a large amount of ammunition to 30 mm guns.
How long are those ATGMS going to last? Or for that matter, will they even make it to battle? Need I remind you what had happened to the Tunguskas of Maikop brigade in Grozny?
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26 minutes ago, JUAN DEAG said:
More ammo and more armor.
Armor - yes; although I am not convinced that it's necessary when taking out VBIEDs. Ammo - it's not so simple. The 100mm cannon on a BMP-3 can take out enemies in most fortified positions while 30mm AC could not even dream of that...
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19 minutes ago, JUAN DEAG said:
Thank you for the link, I remember some Ukrainian official calling it Pinocchio or something like that.
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15 minutes ago, JUAN DEAG said:
Pretty basic. Just destabilize Ukraine as much as possible and make it difficult for the new government to govern successfully. The revolution in Libya scared Putin but the revolution in Ukraine hit way too close to home. It's easier to defame a government when they appear to be in anarchy so that way Russians at home won't get any crazy ideas about overthrowing corrupt ex-communist kleptocrats.
I agree, that was definitely part of the thinking; but by the same token - Russian government simply could not just stand by as their compatriots in Donbass were being suppressed. I they did - that would have brought an idea of overthrow in Kremlin much more so than corruption or bureaucracy.
15 minutes ago, JUAN DEAG said:Highly unlikely because the Baltic states are in NATO but when you border Putin's Russia and at the same time have a significant Russian minority it's best to be prepared for anything. Also, Latvia doesn't really have beef with Russia, unlike Lithuania and Estonia.
Or you know, maybe they could try giving common civil rights to their Russian minority and try to get along with Russia? It's not going away anywhere any time soon, you know..
15 minutes ago, JUAN DEAG said:Crimea wasn't really the surprise, it was Donbass that shocked people. That was very much a new one.
I agree. It appears to me that absolutely nobody knew what to expect there; least of all Strelkov...
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On 5/3/2015 at 11:57 AM, JasonC said:
The CSS failures are huge by western or even later war Russian standards.
Thank you for your colossal and thought-provoking material. I just have one question - who exactly was implementing those far superior operations in the West at the same time?
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On 6/16/2017 at 0:24 AM, John Kettler said:
Normally, I'd post this in CMSF, since it's shot in Syria, but I think it's well worth posting here because of the insights it provides into the Russian way of war. Watch the convoy interdiction strike and think about how the US would typically handle such a target. Notice, too, the size of the craters and placement relative to the targets. Would like to see a close up ground level view, but the message from well up there is the same.
This is also of interest, since it shows what the world looks like through the thermal displays on the Ka-52 and Mi-28 as fixed and moving targets are engaged and destroyed. In the first instance, most of the tactical symbology typically suppressed on DoD video is still there to learn from. If my interpretation is correct, firing range is on the order of two kilometers. While I'm not terribly impressed with target resolution, the tracking gates seem to be superbly stable.
Regards,
John Kettler
I agree with you that resolution is not as good as AH-64D; but some of those targets get engaged out to 8km..that's no joke!
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What do you think were the goals of Russian military adventure in Ukraine?
Also, I don't for a second believe that Russia fancies invading Latvia; But if "polite men" were to find themselves in Riga; it would already too late.
In general, Soviet military had always acceled in quick and relatively non violent takeovers of other countries; so Crimea should not have been a shock to those that are in the know... You can't drink away a talent - as the Russians like to say.
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20 hours ago, Sgt.Squarehead said:
Oh yes.....Finally!
The vehicle most likely to turn 'ISIS' into 'WASWAS'.
20 hours ago, Sgt.Squarehead said:Oh yes.....Finally!
The vehicle most likely to turn 'ISIS' into 'WASWAS'.
What makes you say that? What advantages does it have over up-armored BMP-3?
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On June 5, 2017 at 11:31 PM, Apocal said:
At any rate, there probably isn't any problem with the system beyond limited range, since the Russians actually bothered developing an upgrade about ten or so years back, the TOS-1A, which extended the range to six kilometers.
True. Just to add-on to your point - not only did they continue developing them; but also oversaw their heavy use in Iraq and Syria...and even Ukraine if we are to believe ZSU command...
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On June 6, 2017 at 0:59 PM, Haiduk said:
Neither first, nor second.
Ilovaisk battle consists of two independent parts. First, from 6th Aug to 12th Aug - there are attempts of town assault and since 18th Aug exactly heavy urban fights, after UKR forces could enter in the town. Though both sides haven't enough armor (Ukrainain side in the town was represented mostly with light armed volunteer units and less than combined army company with some BMPs and tanks), urban battle quickly turned out to stallmate. And second part - since 23th-24th Aug 2014 - withdrawal of Sector B army group and border gurad units from Russian border to Ilovaisk under pressure of invaded Russian troops. 25th Aug all Ukrainain groups around Ilovaisk were encircled. Up to 28th Aug there were position defensive clashes, 29th Aug UKR forces have received guarantees from Russian High Command about secure withdrawal in "green corridor". Troops were lined up in two columnes and in march order have drove in western direction. But after several kilometers Russian and DNR forces, entrenched on their way, became shot out both columnes. This wasn't "maneuver battle". This was shot out like on firing range. All vehicles were destroyed, survived personnel was saving own lifes in sunflower fields. Only 31st Aug Russians stopped headhunting and allowed Red Cross to enter to masacre zone and take wounded, POWs and bodies.
Just to be sure that I understand it correctly - here are some questions:
Is it fair to say that Ilovaisk was originally defended by locals like Givi(who was born and raised there)?
I seem to remember Mr Putin making a statement that the troops encircled in Ilovaisk could leave with honor, but they had to surrender their weapons. Was that not discussed between Russian and Ukranian command on site?
Did the Ukranian columns not attempt to take all the weapons with them when leaving their camp?
Were they not asked by Russian officers to hold off for 15 minutes, while they tried clarify the situation with their command?
Did the Ukranian CO not ignore this request by ordering his subbordinates to "break out"?
Don't get me wrong, I am not trying to accuse the Ukranians and to abdicate the Russians. I would just very much to appreciate hearing your honest thoughts on that. Thank you!
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Just now, IMHO said:
@DreDay, some things he teaches are actually quite dangerous to operators IRL
That is one of his criticisms and also the reason that he was kicked out from Russian IPSC (where he was quite successful up until then). I personally reserve my judgement without seeing the full course setup, so take it for what it's worth...
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19 hours ago, IMHO said:
First video is kind of strange. Definitely neither top FSB nor top SF Command units. They use different techniques and equipment in many cases caught on tape and instructors are considerably younger and all are in very good physical shape. To me it looks like a regional law enforcement "SF" unit. Bottom one is an Army SF unit but not a top one as well.
PS I'd even dare to say the first video instructor himself has never ever been to any top SF unit. They practice "cross-instructing" so most of the techniques are quite uniform except for the things closely related to the unit's specific role. And then one can tell the unit specialization from these little things done differently.
This video is from Alexander Petrov's training seminars. He is a civilian contractor (ex mil though) that has his own take on "tactical" firearms training; kinda like we have guys like Costa and Haley... His seminars are attended by some Russian SF personnel, but they are not equivalent to actual unit training.
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3 hours ago, panzersaurkrautwerfer said:
I could write more, but in so many words, the Saudis believe because they have M1 tanks they are capable vs actually spending time training their crews to be capable.
No doubt. One question that I have though (outside Saudi issues) is the performance of turbine engines in high altitude. I remember hearing that their performance gets significantly downgraded when you get high above the sea level. Is there any truth to that, or is that just an old wife's tale?
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On 4/5/2017 at 0:40 PM, SgtDeadly12 said:
Yes, the RPK is being phased out in favor of PKM/PKPs. However, I doubt that the weight of the RPK was a factor in phasing it out because the RPK-74 is eight pounds lighter than a PKM/PKP. I'd say that the reason the RPK is being phased out is due to the Russians wanting more range and power out of their squad-level MGs. Modern body armor is surely a factor also, because 5.45x39mm at 500m undoubtedly does a lot less damage than 7.62x54mm to a soldier in modern body armor.
Right, what I had meant is that the Russians seem to feel that something that weighs as much as a SAW (i.e. PKM/PKP) needs to be firing a full rifle cartridge; so they don't have a place for a "true" belt-fed LMG firing 5.45x39 in their doctrine.
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4 minutes ago, Haiduk said:
SSO since 2016 is separate structure (before was belonging to Army intelligence like in Russia). Consists of SSO Command, 140th Special operation center (created on base of 8th regiment), 3rd special forces regiment, 8th special forces regiment, 73rd Naval special operations center, 142nd special operations training center.
I see, so basically army and navy spetsnaz assets have been taken from GUR and integrated into an independent branch? That makes sense. BTW, Russian SSO is also independent of GRU and subordinates directly to the chief of general staff..
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On 3/31/2017 at 6:21 PM, HUSKER2142 said:
Reason for failure is small ammunition in the store. If the Ministry of Defense of Russia ordered shops for 60 or more shots, the PKK would remain in service. And PKM / PKP compensates for all this with its firepower.
Причина отказа малый боезапас в магазине . Если бы МО России заказало магазины на 60 и более выстрелов , РПК остался бы на вооружении . А ПКМ/ПКП компенсирует всё это своей огневой мощью .
That's part of it. In addition, Russian military experts seem to be of a belief that something as heavy as a SAW (as in PKM/PKP) should be firing a true rifle round and not an intermediary cartridge in order to fully compliment infantry squad's range and firepower. BTW, as far as I know RPKs are only left in service with Naval Infantry; while all other infantry formations have equipped their squads with PKM/PKP.
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On 3/30/2017 at 4:08 PM, Haiduk said:
SSO doesn't say many about own work. Since three years of war we know only about several episodes with their participation. And these episodes almost all for 2014 year, when they as far as were not named SSO and havn't such vehicles.
Is it correct to assume that Ukrainian SSO consists of 3rd and 8th Spetsnaz regiments or are they a separate force from "army spetsnaz" as in Russia?
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6 minutes ago, Haiduk said:
Also we have a lack of special sniper bullets, so ammunition load consists of mostly with common rifle bullets.
On that note - are you aware of any efforts to spin off any significant production of small arms ammunition (since Luhansk plant is not an option at this point)?
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2 hours ago, John Kettler said:
Now, let's talk suppressed SVDs. Full power ammo or subsonic? If full power, what level of sound suppression is achieved, please, presuming you know?
Regards,
John Kettler
I don't believe that there is any subsonic ammo in 7.62x54. If there was, it probably wouldn't perform much better than subsonic AKs... There is a reason why the Soviets had to design a whole new family of munitions for AS/VSS.
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21 minutes ago, IMHO said:
OIC, yes my buildings are pretty wide. I assume building vs. vehicle may affect targeting logic as well.
I would love to be mistaken here, but I don't think that there is much of a "targeting logic" involved; just a basic dispersion coefficient...
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5 minutes ago, IMHO said:
And what were the targets for RPG? I have two different setups where a seven men veteran/crack RUS infantry squad inside a building fire at another building at 289m. I haven't calculated exact hit ratio but my feeling is they are on target with the correct floor with a 30-40% probability.
I was aiming for vehicular targets, obviously it can hit a broad side of a barn at longer ranges than the ones that I had listed
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I have actually done extensive testing on RPG-7 and RPO-M behavior back in a day. Here is the gist of my findings - PG-7VL will always miss its targets past 250 meters. It absolutely does not matter how experienced/unsuppressed your operators are and how good good the weather is. In real life, it is capable of being effective at twice that range under perfect conditions.
RPO-M will always miss a small house at distances over 200m, again its range far surpassed that in real life when dealing with area targets. When it does manage to hit a small house with an infantry squad inside (from point-blank range of course) it fails to inflict any casualties or even heavy suppression 90% of the time. It is also completely incapable of penetrating light armor of BTRs and MTLBs; which makes it completely useless in this game.
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56 minutes ago, Sgt.Squarehead said:
Interesting piece from WIB, life at the front from a Ukrainian perspective, in English: https://warisboring.com/defiant-in-the-quagmire-a-ukrainian-commander-vows-to-liberate-all-of-our-lands-8b1768805fb9#.8nt4il41z
Surprisingly balanced and objective article that foregoes most propaganda and just reports the facts on the ground. I only wish we could get more of those...
Russian army under equipped?
in Combat Mission Black Sea
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Absolutely, although we have not seen any clips with those engagement ranges yet..