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I am not sure how to take that one, but okay whatever. I have yet to hear any decent counter argument, just a lot of frivolous unsupported opinion masquerading as solid business advice from folks with no business experience. Glad to hear you can afford $10 though. @hoolaman Sorry. I'd agree that there is a lot of time and typing wasted here, but I wouldn't characterize these guys as "challenging the status quo." We aren't talking freedom fighters here. We are talking about a couple tight wads who feel BF should do a ton of work for free so they don't have to cough up $10. Some of us are pretty sick of the constant attempts to find something, anything at all to trash BF. You think this is bad? Wander over to the endless stream of bile that gets spewed out on our other favorite basement forum. Granted one should never base one's own standards in just saying you are better than some other worse example. Still the overall tone here is much more civil normally. It seems the announcements from BF lately and their apparently good business health have stirred the pot of folks who feel the need to constantly predict their imminent demise. For folks like myself, the irritation factor just adds in to it.

I'm not. I passed that point on the fast train to rock bottom stupidity after first clicking on the link ND provided. Friggin thanks a lot Normal Dude!

Rotflmao! Shrimp Curry? Ahh what I wouldn't give to be spat upon with Shrimp curry!! Bloody favoritism.

That is probably a poor example. How could Matt forget working with Jay and Silent Bob? That movie is so classic. Bethany: What's he like? Metatron: God? Lonely. But funny. He's got a great sense of humor. Take sex for example. There's nothing funnier than the ridiculous faces you people make mid-coitus. Bethany: Sex is a joke in heaven? Metatron: The way I understand it, it's mostly a joke down here, too.

Really? That tells us you haven't been paying attention.

Shame you couldn't spend some of that on the game and stop playing the demo.

Maybe he is rethinking his views now that he put his foot in his mouth over $10.. . . nah doubt it. How long ago did the $5 Vista patch come out and Steve is still listening to BS? I use my CMx1 disks as collectible coasters now. Yeah son, I remember back in the day when flavor objects were what you snacked on while playing CM.

Yeah really I already paid for the Vista patch, shouldn't this be included? That's almost a qtr tank in the Gremlin!! *based on manufacturers srp for the State of California, licenses taxes and fees not included.

You obviously never saw the South park episode where Cartman goes into the future to play his Wii game. South Park has a far better understanding of technology level differences than our infamous blog.

Steve - No good deed ever goes unpunished, you should know that by now. It is much easier to establish your cred by skewing the truth and make yourself out to be the self appointed guardian of all that is good and righteous rather than to actually maybe produce something. (sounds almost like someone is practicing to get in to politics). I stupidly wasted my time reading that BS thread over at GS "I am beginning to get the feeling BFC doesn't know it's own product". Like listening to a bunch of stoned adolescent teens blathering and complaining about the unfair and bogus rules their parent come up with. God help me what a pathetic bunch. Any thought I had about honesty and integrity went right out the window. I bought the Vista patch. I can't tell you how happy I was to be able to continue to play CMBB and CMAK a little longer all the while hoping we'd see ww2 again with the CMx2 engine and for $5. I can't even get a good beer for $5. Only a sad sack bunch of idiots sitting in their mom's basement with nothing to do cause they have no job and no money would whine about what they DIDN'T get for that $5. So Garth, what do you think of the CM Vista patch? Well Wayne I can't believe they sold a "Vista" patch that has nothing else in it, how was I to know I was spending my money on something that would only be a patch for Vista? Now I'm out gas money for the Gremlin. By the way there was an inference there that Steve might be egging folks on about attacking those guys. I for one have never heard anything of the sort. I formed my opinion by actually looking at the BS that rates as discussion over there. It reminds me of an old Cheech and Chong record... “Look like dog s**t ” “Hmm…smell…” (sniffing)…”Smell like dog s**t” “Hmmm…Taste…” “HUH?” “TASTE” (tasting)….”Yuck, taste like dog s**t” “Hmmmm…Good thing we don’t step in it!” Unfortunately I went over there and stepped in it. By the way, by buying the Vista patch wasn't I thereby entitled to a free copy of CMBN?

And I know folks who have gone through far worse. What does that prove? Hell I went through far worse. I spent 9 months in a fed camp as a "detainee" and faced a potential 3 year criminal sentence when they decided to let me out. Was I right? No not really. I was young, headstrong and stupid and I THOUGHT I was right. In retrospect I was young, headstrong and stupid and wrong. Not only that my reasons for being there turned out to be even stupider than I was. Difference is I don't sit around crying about it or trying to blame my poor choices on a gov't conspiracy. Sometimes life just sucks, so you pick yourself up and figure out what it is you can do to make it better and you go do that. No space lizard is gonna do it for you.

you mean he has a beer gut and is trying to wear a muscle shirt? Eeeewww

somebody check the turntable, the record is skipping.

So are you saying BF's US customer base was gonna get the upgrade for free, but the Brits complained? Damn them!!!! Seriously - interesting story.

I understand the US TV series Fairly Legal is based on his story, and he actually looks like the lead character...

whew, thanks, that is a whole lot different!

you calling me fat?

Excellent closing point. And on that note isn't it about time to lock this thread? Please....

Maybe this stuff flies over at GS, but you really do need to establish a little street cred here. It does get real old you constantly harping on the obvious stuff Charles, Phil, etal keep missing and yet they have a successful company and you have what? A covey of groupies at GS? (what exactly is a group of groupies called?) What seems apparent to me is you do NOT know how to run a business. So you spend your time trying to tell others how to run theirs. Worse you even start interfering with their customer base on how to manage issues with the game. Part of me feels, why should I say anything? These guys are perfectly capable of responding if they felt you were worth the effort. Problem is this is a public forum, not a private message to BF and there are a lot of folks on here who might actually think you know squat. Then they go off and implement something you told them would work. If it breaks their game then who has to fix it - not you of course. No it's the guys who should be working on stuff to enhance the game because that's the kind of folks BF is made of. Geez thanks a lot from all of us waiting for the next release. If it were me, I'd tell them to sign on over at GS and get some more stellar advice from you there.

What the hell seems we are not going back in the park so I get to tell a "UFO" story. Years ago while visiting my father he woke me up late in the evening as he'd spotted a light in the sky. It did some things neither of us to this day can explain. Was it a UFO? I dunno, I don't even know it was flying, could have been a light reflection. All I know is I saw some light do something weird. Does that lend credence to anyone's stories of the lizard revolt or whatever the f**k all that gibberish is? Absolutely not. Second story Unlike the bilgewater spewed on a certain blog, I actually have been on the receiving end of a little unwanted attention from the gov't. I got locked up by the same grand jury investigating Oliver North (different case, same federal grand jury). We both refused to testify. He was suspected in the crimes they were investigating, I was not. I got locked up, he did not. Told me all I need to know about the justice system. However the government is nowhere near as organized as the conspiracy theorists would have us believe. It is made up of a variety of people, some petty little s**ts, some decent people doing their best to do their job. None of them in full control of anything. My friggin judge (Aubrey Robinson) was actually asleep during our proceedings. The prosecutor was the wonderful Lawrence Barcella who shortly thereafter left gov't service - In private practice, he handled internal investigations for corporations and defended people charged with securities fraud, antitrust violations, tax evasion and money laundering. In 1988, his client Lyn Nofziger, one of President Ronald Reagan’s close advisers, was found guilty of illegal lobbying stemming from his attempts to influence White House officials on behalf of several corporations. Does this sound like the kind of organization that is gonna be able to maintain a coverup of an intergalactic lizard war? geez man the meds are all wrong. Yes there are some things we can't explain lacking all the facts. Like that light, I have no idea what it was. But if I was to say, hey I saw a UFO, I'd be lying. I saw something again I have no idea if it was actually in flight- lacking data. There's the problem with most people, they draw a conclusion on data they do not have because they assume they saw something they don't actually have enough data to say. Another example. Waaaaayyyyy back BF told us about an issue in CM that if we had all seen we would have explained as obviously some flaw in the engine or the spotting program or specifically wrong with the Tiger when in reality it was the Tiger's gunner sitting sideways. It is always amazing how much BS gets blown away once we actually accumulate a little real data - and voices in your head is not real data, it is poorly prescribed meds.

Sigh so do I. I am trying to work with you man. Yes CM doesn't have some features other RTS games do. On the other hand it has far more features they don't. So calm down a little and just keep it square - you'd like some kind of live online chat community. Fair enough. I honestly agree there are other folks undoubtedly who'd like that. But again why does it have to be in the game? Surely there must be something along those lines already freely available. Folks help me out here- there has to already exist something like this.

How many people are really going to want to maintain an older copy of CMBN once the new feature capability is there? I can guarrantee none of my PBEM opponents will and frankly if they didn't upgrade they'd find me less willing to play a game - I want those armored covered arcs and the new UI and the new models and shading and new scenarios in MG with vehicles from Nov 1944 and movable waypoints and and...... I think this whole discussion of upgraded players and non upgraded players is just a red herring.

Watch it there buddy, I'm not 65, but I do need the reading glasses. I wouldn't say the AI is totally horrid. I have seen some pretty cool stuff done by scenario designers and they are getting better all the time. However I agree, it isn't the same as human to human. The AI will sit still so you can mortar them. I wish my human opponents would do the same LOL The wine is in the cellar, it is actually a cool place to hang out, but watch that other door to the cesspool, you DO NOT want to go there. I don't think anyone is opposed to having some kind of live chat set up, I just am not sure we need to have BF provide that. Surely in this day and age there has to be plenty of options. I hate facebook, but for those who like it can't you have a facebook community? Just curious, you say having to go through 145 people. I don't understand the mechanics there not being in the steam group. Are you looking for opponents you prefer, opponents who are actually online, ones who are online but aren't actually available? What is the functional issue that isn't working for you?

Seems to be something missing there. I think I understand the intent, but it is better to be really clear and not allow people to assume your intent. Nah don't do that. Yeah it is a fractious opiniated place, but don't let that deter you. On the other hand I would play close attention to BF's statements. Those are the ones that truly count about what they feel they are capable of doing and how they prioritize. They might even agree with you, but feel the scope is currently out of reach. That is simply a message to be patient. As BF solidifies the engine, then the programmers can figure out what other items they feel they can take on without stretching themselves too thin. If they feel the effort is worth the return and within their capability, knowing there are folks who do desire this is worth continuing to participate in the discussion. It is also possible that feature set would be available on a different platform with a slightly different audience (I am referring to the Touch version here).

Dunno, but the medical marijuana clinics around the corner from me (yeah I have two that close, geez where were they when I was going to dead shows?) guarrantee they can help with that.